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Do you have no concerns at all about junior doctors withdrawing emergency care?

I'll jump in and say that my chief concern is that the government has forced the foundation of the NHS into an unprecedented strike.

I'm worried this step might begin to alienate the public but the public needs to realise that they will be at less risk from 2 days of A&E strikes covered by consultants than they will be by the imposition of this contract.
 
Do you have no concerns at all about junior doctors withdrawing emergency care?

Osborne said during his statement to the Commons that the 12bn figure has already been met, or so reports the Guardian's Rowena Mason.
Most people's concerns centre around the attitude of Jeremy Hunt and the Tory party. Junior doctors would never strike without very, very good reason. I'm sure that anyone who has ever worked in the NHS will confirm that. It's time now for Hunt to listen and act upon what the doctors are saying, before he too is forced to follow Osborne down the path of no return.
 
The fact doctors are prepared to take the unprecedented step of a complete strike just shows how serious the botched contract is. I know a fair few junior doctors and they are not taking this step lightly.
 
McDonnell's attack piece for the Guardian is very good. Admittedly I'm one of his few fans on here.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/mar/23/george-osborne-budet-economics

George Osborne is unfit to hold office | John McDonnell

It’s said that a week is a long time in politics – but under this chancellor a weekend is the length of a “long-term economic plan”. That’s exactly how long George Osborne was able to stand up his own budget before it collapsed.

It’s unprecedented in modern history for a budget, the centrepiece of a government’s economic policymaking, to disintegrate so rapidly. Yet Osborne has achieved it.

Under intense political pressure, he has reversed his cuts to disability benefit. Within four days of presenting his budget to parliament, it no longer adds up,. And remarkably he has been forced into accepting two opposition amendments, on tampon tax and solar subsidies.

The attempted defence in parliament revealed two central facts. First, that he will not apologise to those many thousands of people with disabilities who have spent more than a week worrying about the loss of their essential payments. Yet he was able to say he was “sorry” that his fellow Tory Iain Duncan Smith resigned.

The personal independence payment (PIP) is paid out to allow those who have disabilities to live with some autonomy, often in order to enable people to get to work. This is state support for things such as preparing or eating food, washing and bathing, reading and communicating.

To propose taking up to £150 a week away from disabled people that helps them to live independently and with dignity is a chilling example of the lengths Osborne is willing to go to in putting his own political career ahead of the long-term good of our nation.

The cuts to PIP are morally indefensible, and reveal a chancellor that has chosen austerity over basic humanity.

Second, it is clear from his speech that the chancellor has no idea how he is going to fill the £4.4bn black hole left in his budget. Osborne confidently believes that by autumn the losses would be “absorbed”. But you can’t “absorb” £4.4bn. In reality, paying for this means cuts elsewhere, or stealth taxes – something the chancellor has become rather adept at.

He is, in other words, banking on a more favourable outlook for the economy by the time we get to the autumn statement. This is the equivalent of hoping to find money down the back of the sofa. As Robert Chote, director of the Office for Budget Responsibility (OBR), put it when announcing pessimistic new forecasts: “What the sofa gives, the sofa can also take away.”This is why I said he was more a chancer than a chancellor.

George Osborne could, very easily, pay for PIP by reversing his cuts to capital gains tax, which benefit the richest 5%, and the projected cuts to corporation tax. But he will not do this because at the centre of his budget was a cold political decision. The chancellor wants to achieve a surplus on government spending by 2019-20, by spending £10bn less than it receives in taxes.

He claimed he would eliminate the deficit by last year; it is still over £70bn. He claimed he would be bringing down the government’s debt burden, relative to GDP; it is rising and set to rise further.

The OBR has revised growth forecasts down. They have revised wage growth down. They have revised business investment down. They have revised productivity down.

The productivity slump is the most fundamental problem. It is the weakness of productivity that undermined wider growth. This is a domestic issue for which Osborne must take responsibility. He has presided over a low-wage, low-productivity, low-investment recovery that is built on sand.

Instead of cutting government investment, still scheduled to fall over the lifetime of this parliament, he should be following the advice of the IMF, the OECD, the CBI, the TUC and international experts in driving investment up.

Labour’s fiscal credibility rule, developed in consultation with, and supported by, world-leading economists, offers a framework through which we can eliminate the deficit fairly. We can avoid the counterproductive and cruel cuts we have seen under this government while allowing government the capacity to invest in the future.

But the chancellor clings to his surplus target because his political credibility would disappear entirely if he lost this last remaining fiscal rule. Not a single respectable economist can be found in defence of the surplus rule. But Osborne does not care how much pain it inflicts on the most vulnerable and he does not care how much damage it does to the economy. He cares very deeply, however, about his political career.

Not only have the chancellor’s plans been revealed to have no basis in economics but they are devoid of basic morality. He is not fit to hold the office.

Edit: Added link and article
He lost me when he started on about 'Labour's fiscal credibility'.
 
I'll jump in and say that my chief concern is that the government has forced the foundation of the NHS into an unprecedented strike.

I'm worried this step might begin to alienate the public but the public needs to realise that they will be at less risk from 2 days of A&E strikes covered by consultants than they will be by the imposition of this contract.

Neither Hunt nor the BMA will see their credibility enhanced through such a strike, it's a lose-lose situation. People are going to be told by the DoH that junior doctors are prepared to patient safety at risk, which is a total farce.

If the strike does indeed come to pass, then i think the PM should step in and take a personal interest in negotiations. About time he did something useful anyway.
 
Neither Hunt nor the BMA will see their credibility enhanced through such a strike, it's a lose-lose situation. People are going to be told by the DoH that junior doctors are prepared to patient safety at risk, which is a total farce.

If the strike does indeed come to pass, then i think the PM should step in and take a personal interest in negotiations. About time he did something useful anyway.
Would he realistically have to sack Hunt, at that point? Would look rather like admitting he doesn't trust him to do his job.
 
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Next up riding them down with police horses. I'm telling you the doctors union is the enemy within holding the country to ransom and killing people. not really
 
We're talking about 26,000+ doctors failing to turn up for work, even if consultant can take up the slack in the immediate term that in itself will create strain on the system. The public, who find themselves caught in the crossfire, have a right to some reassurances on the part of government and the BMA.


Would he realistically have to sack Hunt, at that point? Would look rather like admitting he doesn't trust him to do his job.

If we have reached a point where doctors are prepared to walk out on A&E departments, then i would argue that he can't. Indeed he should've been shown the exit months ago IMO,
 
The scousers are right - The Sun is shite.
 
As has been the case more often than not since the last election, it is likely to be rebel Tories and opposition from within which ultimately determines the fate of education reforms (Labour being so ineffective).



Although such recent developments as the attempted abolition of of hundreds of constituency associations, might suggest taht the current leadership/party HQ has grown detached from thee stakeholders.
 
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Is the Telegraph pushing for Brexit, perchance? ;)
 
Cameron exports all blame and feck ups onto his cabinet members. It's quite obvious Boris will become the favourite since he's the outsider
 
Is the Telegraph pushing for Brexit, perchance? ;)

Officially, they are seeking to represent both sides of the argument, unofficially...:)

Despite what many might suppose to be the prevailing viewpoint among the Telegraph's staff, the paper's reporting has been more balanced than the Guardian. The latter's slavishness to the EU is comparable to the brand of Euroscepticism seen at the Express.

And when Boris is the direct competition to Osborne's leadership ambitions, sentiment is only going t be heading in one direction right now. He's pro-Brussels, he is a figurehead of a leadership which sought to abolish many local constituency associations, and it is Conservative councils who are having to implement many of his policies.
 
Officially, they are seeking to represent both sides of the argument, unofficially...:)

Despite what many might suppose to be the prevailing viewpoint among the Telegraph's staff, the paper's reporting has been more balanced than the Guardian. The latter's slavishness to the EU is comparable to the brand of Euroscepticism seen at the Express.

And when Boris is the direct competition to Osborne's leadership ambitions, sentiment is only going t be heading in one direction right now. He's pro-Brussels, he is a figurehead of a leadership which sought to abolish many local constituency associations, and it is Conservative councils who are having to implement many of his policies.

After that vile junior doctor's article I have zero time for the Telegraph on any subject, but at least they don't have articles like "Why Tracey Emin is a Genius" or "Ten things to do with your timeshare in Morocoo - A working class guide to saving".
 
After that vile junior doctor's article I have zero time for the Telegraph on any subject, but at least they don't have articles like "Why Tracey Emin is a Genius" or "Ten things to do with your timeshare in Morocoo - A working class guide to saving".

That's why you should follow a story rather than any particular paper, or a certain correspondent if one's work is deserving of such.
 
God knows how the entire planet deals with that tbh. Doubt it will end up being a paradise planet where our sex robot slaves cook, clean and serve us.
 
The scenes targeting Jeremy Corbyn and Theresa May were the best IMO. :)

For all that it is amusing, the Greens should bear in mind that they are no longer the new kid on the block, voters deserve a professional manifesto (which i don't think we saw at the GE). And given the nature of a mayoral contest, they might do well to find their party's version of Farage one of these days.
 
The scenes targeting Jeremy Corbyn and Theresa May were the best IMO. :)

For all that it is amusing, the Greens should bear in mind that they are no longer the new kid on the block, voters deserve a professional manifesto (which i don't think we saw at the GE). And given the nature of a mayoral contest, they might do well to find their party's version of Farage one of these days.
Indeed, the Boris ones were a little too close to reality for the concept to work :D
 
Not sure whether or not this is new thread material (probably not as nothing will come of it), but over 122k people have signed a petition calling for a General Election to be held in 2016.

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/122946

Who here has signed? *Raises hand*
 
It's a bit silly though since it's unfeasible to fit an election in when we've already got Scottish elections, local council ones, and an EU referendum. Plus the Tories would win anyway, so very little would change. I admire the idea behind them, but these petitions feel kind of pointless at this stage. The government aren't going to take any they don't like remotely seriously.
 
You're not wrong, and I know it's the most minor of things that can be done, but it's pretty much all I can do in my current situation (besides educating myself as much as possible on the crazy year ahead of us).