Dobba
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Owen Smith was you trying? Good job you didn't phone it in or it would have looked ridiculous.We did try...
Owen Smith was you trying? Good job you didn't phone it in or it would have looked ridiculous.We did try...
Tim Farron: Tough on Cadbury, meh on Tories.After what happened last time and people still think voting LibDem is the right idea. They will cuddle up to whomever gives them a shot at some real power. Allowing a party which holds the fewest number of seats, by some margin, a disproportionate say doesn't sound very democratic to me.
The smugness seems a bit out of place.Owen Smith was you trying? Good job you didn't phone it in or it would have looked ridiculous.
Is comrade Colin advocating voting for Corbyn's Labour, or are you attempting to suggest centre left remainers should be voting for May?After what happened last time and people still think voting LibDem is the right idea. They will cuddle up to whomever gives them a shot at some real power. Allowing a party which holds the fewest number of seats, by some margin, a disproportionate say doesn't sound very democratic to me.
Is comrade Colin advocating voting for Corbyn's Labour, or are you attempting to suggest centre left remainers should be voting for May?![]()
tbh, I think they're all shite![]()
I think you're pretty on the pulse of British sentiment, on that one.tbh, I think they're all shite![]()
So does everyone else. The Lib Dems are simply the least shit option at the moment.
I think you're pretty on the pulse of British sentiment, on that one.
So you have forgotten what happened last time they got into power already have you? They lied their way into more seats than they deserved, had a big say in governing the country without any mandate and then went back on all the promises they made before the election.
You may not agree with the Socialists, on the one hand, or the Capitalists, on the other, but at least you have a reasonable idea what you are voting for. The LibDems are just a bunch of chancers.
When it comes to NHS reforms, the Lib Dems have less credibility than Andrew Lansley. At least that bastard genuinely believe(d) in his ideology. The Lib Dems just sold out and even had the "Shirley Williams motion" at their spring conference, that was used to block a different motion looking to stop the Health and Social Care Bill in it's tracks.Or turn that on its head and consider that they had little or no ability to move ahead on the thing they ran on due to their limited number of MPs and yet still managed to rein in the worst excesses of the Tories. The full extent of which we got to witness once they gained full control and started strip mining the NHS, Education and every other public service they could lay their hands on.
We're so used to full party control in the U.K., that we seem to not really grasp the realities of coalition government. Could the Lib Dems have done better? Sure they could. But for a party with absolutely no previous governmental experience, I don't think they did such a terrible job with the extremely limited tools they had available.
When it comes to NHS reforms, the Lib Dems have less credibility than Andrew Lansley. At least that bastard genuinely believe(d) in his ideology. The Lib Dems just sold out and even had the "Shirley Williams motion" at their spring conference, that was used to block a different motion looking to stop the Health and Social Care Bill in it's tracks.
All this coming after they signed a coalition agreement which included the line "We will stop the top-down reorganisations of the NHS that have got in the way of patient care".
Forget moving ahead with what they ran on, they couldn't even 'rein in' the Tories on what they agreed to in exchange for propping them up.
Forget moving ahead with what they ran on, they couldn't even 'rein in' the Tories on what they agreed to in exchange for propping them up.