[Poll Added] Hypothetical: Next manager after Jose Mourinho

Who would be your current choice for next manager after Jose Mourinho?

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It's difficult to really back Poch as the next manager to be honest, unless he starts winning things. You could argue that he's turned spurs into a very strong team capable of challenging but we always need managers who have won things, who can translate that winning mentality on to his players.

Some managers are great at taking underdog teams and helping them perform beyond their expected levels, but as soon as they go to a top club they crumble at the immense pressures these clubs bring.
 
shamans said:
Wow so there's no middle ground between being a nobody and being SAF?
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Yes, there is. And that is the one people keep talking about. Managing at any other club.
But you said that is not important because by a chance of luck, Giggs could become a good manager, and we will know it only if we gamble.
 
RedDevil@84 said:
Yes, there is. And that is the one people keep talking about. Managing at any other club.
But you said that is not important because by a chance of luck, Giggs could become a good manager, and we will know it only if we gamble.
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Yes Giggs can become a successful manager at Man United. If he proves to be a good manager at Scunthorpe United, it would not be enough to prove he is good enough for the big job. Hiring Giggs will be a gamble but I believe it is worth taking.

It was also worth taking after SAF left. It was not worth it after LVG.
 
shamans said:
Yes Giggs can become a successful manager at Man United. If he proves to be a good manager at Scunthorpe United, it would not be enough to prove he is good enough for the big job. Hiring Giggs will be a gamble but I believe it is worth taking.

It was also worth taking after SAF left. It was not worth it after LVG.
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Agreed. It would have been worth taking a punt on Giggs post SAF, but after both Moyes and LvG had failed they simply HAD to get the next one right.
 
RedDevil@84 said:
Yes, there is. And that is the one people keep talking about. Managing at any other club.
But you said that is not important because by a chance of luck, Giggs could become a good manager, and we will know it only if we gamble.
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So could I, however people would rightly see it as foolish to just give me one of the biggest jobs in world football.

There's absolutely no evidence to support the idea that Giggs would be a good manager. It's all just wishful thinking by some fans.
 
We are well beyond the luxury of nostalgia of appointing ex-players when the opposition are appointing top managers.
 
GrandJury said:
So could I, however people would rightly see it as foolish to just give me one of the biggest jobs in world football.

There's absolutely no evidence to support the idea that Giggs would be a good manager. It's all just wishful thinking by some fans.
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I dunno, how's your FM CV? :D
 
shamans said:
Yes Giggs can become a successful manager at Man United. If he proves to be a good manager at Scunthorpe United, it would not be enough to prove he is good enough for the big job. Hiring Giggs will be a gamble but I believe it is worth taking.

It was also worth taking after SAF left. It was not worth it after LVG.
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That's the point. If you are talking only about taking a punt, it need not necessarily be Giggs. It could be just anyone.
Giggs is a club legend, but that is hardly a managerial qualification. There is nothing to suggest Giggs will be a success. It is wishful thinking.
At the same time, there is equal chance of being a bad gamble. I may err on the side of caution, especially given how the competing clubs are not going to take such gambles.
 
Pochettino or Marco Silva for me. Both PL proven and done a good job with two clubs on limited budgets in the PL, as well as abroad beforehand.
 
SirAF said:
Agreed. It would have been worth taking a punt on Giggs post SAF, but after both Moyes and LvG had failed they simply HAD to get the next one right.
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Yes and I am saying if we get 3 years or so with Mourinho winning us a couple of PL titles, give it to Giggs.

RedDevil@84 said:
That's the point. If you are talking only about taking a punt, it need not necessarily be Giggs. It could be just anyone.
Giggs is a club legend, but that is hardly a managerial qualification. There is nothing to suggest Giggs will be a success. It is wishful thinking.
At the same time, there is equal chance of being a bad gamble. I may err on the side of caution, especially given how the competing clubs are not going to take such gambles.
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Again, it's taking a punt on someone who can be a success and not anyone. Giggs is not just anyone. And like I mentioned before, he has been closely involved with arguably the GOAT since a young age. There's a chance that management rubbed off onto him.

Madrid took a gamble with Zidane. Yes you can argue he had the b team but don't tell me it wasn't a gamble since he was completely unproven at the highest level.
 
GrandJury said:
So could I, however people would rightly see it as foolish to just give me one of the biggest jobs in world football.

There's absolutely no evidence to support the idea that Giggs would be a good manager. It's all just wishful thinking by some fans.
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I 100 percent agree that Giggs has no managerial record to speak of and would be a huge unnecessary gamble for Man United. Since SAF retired we have been miles away from being competitive and are only now recovering from Moyes and LVG eras and we simply can't take a punt on Giggs as he has absolutely no experience. Giggs credentials as manager are barely better than Scholes or Beckham or any of our former greats. If Giggs wants to manage Man United then let him audition for the role by proving himself at another club first. Being a great player is no guarantee that they will be a great manager.
 
shamans said:
Yes and I am saying if we get 3 years or so with Mourinho winning us a couple of PL titles, give it to Giggs.
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Giggs has been sitting on his arse for almost 18 months now! The freebie ship has sailed, I feel. Now he has to prove himself elsewhere, I don’t want to see the club take anymore gambles.
 
GrandJury said:
Well he dropped Bale for Isco and has won back to back Champions Leagues.

Not as baffling as people who pick Poch because he's managed to come second in the league once. Wowser.
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With the best squad by a mile in an era of a declined Barca and Bayern.. not to mention the failure bunch from England. I'm yet to be impressed. 7

As for Isco, it wasn't exactly a master stroke, Isco is one of the finest players in the world and works his socks off. Massively rated on the Cafe before they set out and won back to back CLs. Most people here would've put him starting ahead of Bale.
 
I think it would be wise to forget thinking about the next manager until Jose has actually announced his intention of leaving the club. By that time, some new tasty prospect might have risen and who knows who could be available.

Although I agree that the nostalgia aspect must be avoided as well as "the Scottish" factor. It must be either a well proven manager or a risk which is understandable and acceptable.
 
jem said:
I never understand this argument. Surely Pochettino's results at a modest-spending team (in the most competitive league to boot,) match those of Zidane, who inherited a squad strewn with world class talent. I still think it's impressive what Zidane has done, but I can't understand why Pochettino doesn't get more credit around here.
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Yeah well said. I too find it a bit odd. He’s made a team with moderate finances become one of the best teams in the league. He made even improved an already good Southampton side. I just can’t understand this really narrow point of view that someone has to have won a trophy to be good at their job when you consider how much of it is based on financial wealth.
 
shamans said:
Giggs is not just anyone. And like I mentioned before, he has been closely involved with arguably the GOAT since a young age. There's a chance that management rubbed off onto him..
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So we have potential great managers of Utd in Giggs, Scholes, Neville, Butt, Rooney, Carrick. Anyone else?
Giggs has a massive disadvantage that Moyes and LvG would have rubbed off onto him in an undesirable way, given that he is the only one who have worked closely with both of them.
 
shamans said:
Yes Giggs can become a successful manager at Man United. If he proves to be a good manager at Scunthorpe United, it would not be enough to prove he is good enough for the big job. Hiring Giggs will be a gamble but I believe it is worth taking.

It was also worth taking after SAF left. It was not worth it after LVG.
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Not this shit again, why should United take the risk when they are more assured options around? In this cut throat league there is absolutely no room for sentimentality so the club should simply go with the best man available not this vain hope that some sort of magical transference of skill happened between Sir Alex and Giggs. The longer Giggs stays out of management the further he slips away from reckoning for the big job because every year managerial prospects are emerging and putting themselves in the shop window by taking the incremental growth that you think is beneath Giggs. The likes of Jardim, Silva, Sarri and that German kid that Bayern want weren't on the radar for the big jobs but what they have achieved on the pitch has put them on the map.
 
RedDevil@84 said:
So we have potential great managers of Utd in Giggs, Scholes, Neville, Butt, Rooney, Carrick. Anyone else?
Giggs has a massive disadvantage that Moyes and LvG would have rubbed off onto him in an undesirable way, given that he is the only one who have worked closely with both of them.
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Again there is NO way of knowing. Maybe he took the best things about each? Maybe he inherited the worst of all three (SAF, Moyes, LVG). Giggs being a top class manager is a wild car but could prove to be great. And no it is not like saying anyone can be a top class manager. Anyone is not a player who has played for two decades under the best manager of all times. Anyone is not someone who was a smart player on the pitch and completely reinvented themselves. Do these qualities guarantee good management? No but they do say there is a chance he will be good and managing Derbyshire and doing well with them does NOT prepare you for the United job. Nothing does (apart from a big team/winning trophies of the highest calibre).

This is why I would like to see Giggs given a chance after Mourinho. If we survived a year of Moyes and 2 years of LVG and are still arguably the biggest club in the world, it is worth giving it to Giggs and playing that gamble.
 
When the time comes to find a new manager after José, then it simply needs to be someone with experience, we simply cannot afford to give the job to a novice, we are not a training ground or school for first time managers.

As romantic a notion as it very well is to give it to a former playing legend like Giggs or Scholes, that should be ruled out pronto.

Since e don't quite yet know when José will leave, it is hard to put forth suitable names as his replacement, names now might not be acceptable in four, five or whatever time frame in the future we could be talking about.

One thing is for sure, it will be someone who has managed a top club before, as we have hopefully learned our lesson from the Moyes appointment, we simply cannot leave things to a novice at a top club.
 
GrandJury said:
Spending loads of money and having a excellent team is no guarantee of winning the Champions League (see PSG and Man City) never mind winning them back to back.

There's no comparison between what Zidane has achieved and what Poch has not achieved.
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I disagree.
 
In 5 years time

Poch maybe if he starts winning, some currently unknown upstart, Emery if he can improve on his early impressive form. And of course Mike Phelan!
 
Pochettino. His youth-centric, forceful and adaptive style is the closest to ours as a club of any of the possibly available elite managers today. He’s proved his worth at Spurs to be in serious consideration should the opportunity arise.
 
FC Ronaldo said:
Pochettino. His youth-centric, forceful and adaptive style is the closest to ours as a club of any of the possibly available elite managers today. He’s proved his worth at Spurs to be in serious consideration should the opportunity arise.
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Poch for me.

It's going to happen unless one of the big 2 in Spain set their sights on him:drool:
 
Poch for me too.
Giggs will never be able to attract top talent like Pogba or Lukaku.
 
theralyst said:
Pep
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He'll demand an open cheque book, which we don't have.
And without the best squad in the league (or Messi), he's unlikely to win anything.

In any case, it's too early to say because Jose has not quit yet.
 
Definitely Pochetinno for me. Primarily for his knack at bringing through homegrown talent. Pep can feck off. Hopefully Spurs have won some actual trophies by the time Mou leaves, although ideally not at our expense. Which could be tricky. We'd also need to make damn sure a certain poster is banned in advance of Spurs winning these hypothetical trophies too. Hmmm....
 
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prtk0811 said:
I'd like to see Ryan giggs manage elsewhere successfully have a strong Philosophy and then manage at United.
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Does Giggs have the courage to manage anywhere?
To me it seems that he wanted the MUFC job and nothing else.
 
abdo99 said:
Maurizio Sarri.
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Was interested to see if anyone would still fancy him as Manager after last night. In my view Napoli put up a really good performance and Sarri's rep has not suffered a bit.
 
I know we all support Manchester United which is one of the great clubs of world football but sometimes there's almost an arrogance amongst supporters, for example, some people seem to think we could snap our fingers and get Pep or Zidane or Poch to manage our club. Zidane is at a club that has better players and statue then us so why would he come here. Pep is at a club with better finances and better players. We might be able to get Poch but that's no certainty given the improving statue and player resources at Spurs. I could be wrong but didn't we try to get Pep and Klopp and were rebuffed in the recent past?
 
By this order:

- Pochetinno: proven at EPL and it will give us quality assurance.
- Paulo Fonseca: his style of football is really Man Utd identitiy: attacking with high pressing.
 
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