POLL: your thoughts on the Rooney contract extension

Your thoughts on the Rooney contract extention

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Pogue Mahone said:
:lol: The irony.

Unless I'm mixing you up with someone else haven't you been complaining about our lack of ambition in the transfer market for fecking months now?
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Care to provide an example of that? i dont rememberer EVER claiming this club lacks ambition so unless you can prove otherwise id shut your mouth.

And to be quite honest pogue im starting to get sick to the back teeth of you telling everyone what they should or shouldn't think or say on here, newsflash no one gives a feck about that muppet under your name, your no more special than anyone else on here, this may come as a shock to your ever so gargantuan ego but frankly your one of the worst posters in this place 99% of the time.
 
Allforone said:
Care to provide an example of that? i dont rememberer EVER claiming this club lacks ambition so unless you can prove otherwise id shut your mouth.

And to be quite honest pogue im starting to get sick to the back teeth of you telling everyone what they should or shouldn't think or say on here, newsflash no one gives a feck about that muppet under your name, your no more special than anyone else on here, this may come as a shock to your ever so gargantuan ego but frankly your one of the worst posters in this place 99% of the time.
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WireRed said:
Oh, come on, that is a load of utter shite and you know it.

The only person I can actually think of, who may even remotely qualify for your nonsensical theory is Scholesy, after realising Wayne staying means no Delfouneso to OT. Barring that dipstick, your a million miles off, and you know you are because you said he was "not fit to wear the shirt" the other day.

It doesn't take Einstein to work out that people are cheesed off with Wayne because he's acted like a complete, bonefide greedy cnut. Nothing more or less. The fact he's been rewarded with improved terms for his appalling behaviour is bound to get some people's back up. Especially someone like me who's big on small, pointless traits like loyalty, honesty, and respect :rolleyes:
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Someone like you who won't fecking shut up about "value", the flaws in our squad and Fergie's ineptness (in your eyes) in the transfer market this summer?

Aye, I can see why you're so angry about Rooney accusing the club of a lack of ambition.

Oh wait, I can't...
 
Allforone said:
Care to provide an example of that? i dont rememberer EVER claiming this club lacks ambition so unless you can prove otherwise id shut your mouth.

And to be quite honest pogue im starting to get sick to the back teeth of you telling everyone what they should or shouldn't think or say on here, newsflash no one gives a feck about that muppet under your name, your no more special than anyone else on here, this may come as a shock to your ever so gargantuan ego but frankly your one of the worst posters in this place 99% of the time.
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https://www.redcafe.net/f6/how-thin-our-attacking-options-now-looking-311752/

https://www.redcafe.net/f6/fair-play-chelsea-we-need-strengthen-summer-294760/

Have we got QUANTITY over QUALITY?

Is the current team good enough to win the major titles?

So you strongly disagree with Rooney's comments, eh?
 
Major A for me, agreed he's not played a blinder these last few days. But I'll bet my last penny it was down to a greedy fecking agent warping his mind. But he's an outstanding player and I'd rather him onside than against.

Believe it or not, I had a feeling that this would be the outcome.
 
C. Hopefully this means when we do sell him we can get a better price than we would have if he had only 1.5 years left on his contract. I didn't like Keane or Rio when they used similar tactics to get a pay rise and I like Rooney much, much less than Roy to begin with.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
Someone like you who won't fecking shut up about "value" and Fergie's ineptness (in your eyes) in the transfer market this summer?

Aye, I can see why you're so angry about Rooney accusing the club of a lack of ambition.

Oh wait, I can't...
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I'll hold my hands up to talking about value a lot but you've plucked that little "Fergie's ineptness" perception straight from you own arse.

You can't? That either means your a shite comedian or as thick as two short planks, possibly both. Take your time to judge which category you fall under.

You're a patronising sod, I've grown accustomed to you throwing your weight around over the time I've been here, but your hypocrisy has really reared it's head today. At least I'm consistent in my views and don't let things sway my opinion, you pal, are the complete opposite. Slamming Rooney quite rightly the other day and now defending him and calling other people in the real world muppets is straight from Wayne himself's book of hypocrisy and contradiction.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
https://www.redcafe.net/f6/how-thin-our-attacking-options-now-looking-311752/

https://www.redcafe.net/f6/fair-play-chelsea-we-need-strengthen-summer-294760/

Have we got QUANTITY over QUALITY?

Is the current team good enough to win the major titles?

So you strongly disagree with Rooney's comments, eh?
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And i say we lack ambition where in any of those articles???? which is what you were accusing me of. :rolleyes:

You do realise a person can highlight an area in the team their unhappy with/concerned about and discuss it on a forum don't you? that dosnt actually mean they are questioning the clubs ambition, i thought even for a doofus like you that was pretty self explantory...i guess i was wrong.

If thats what you see as questioning the clubs ambition then id say you must regard that to be 99% of the cafs make-up seeing as theres hundreds of articles along those lines on here, daily.
 
WireRed said:
I'll hold my hands up to talking about value a lot but you've plucked that little "Fergie's ineptness" perception straight from you own arse.

You can't? That either means your a shite comedian or as thick as two short planks, possibly both. Take your time to judge which category you fall under.

You're a patronising sod, I've grown accustomed to you throwing your weight around over the time I've been here, but your hypocrisy has really reared it's head today. At least I'm consistent in my views and don't let things sway my opinion, you pal, are the complete opposite. Slamming Rooney quite rightly the other day and now defending him and calling other people in the real world muppets is straight from Wayne himself's book of hypocrisy and contradiction.
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You're confident Fergie made the right decisions in the transfer window this summer? You think he knew what he was doing when he signed Bebe and not Van der Vaart?

It's just that... you know... you wouldn't get that impression from your posts on here.
 
Happy but not stupid. We'll get a decent deal for him in the summer.

If he stays beyond then, maybe I can trust a word he has to say - until then.
 
WireRed said:
I'll hold my hands up to talking about value a lot but you've plucked that little "Fergie's ineptness" perception straight from you own arse.

You can't? That either means your a shite comedian or as thick as two short planks, possibly both. Take your time to judge which category you fall under.

You're a patronising sod, I've grown accustomed to you throwing your weight around over the time I've been here, but your hypocrisy has really reared it's head today. At least I'm consistent in my views and don't let things sway my opinion, you pal, are the complete opposite. Slamming Rooney quite rightly the other day and now defending him and calling other people in the real world muppets is straight from Wayne himself's book of hypocrisy and contradiction.
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I give you Pogue Mahone.
 
B.

He's a dick, however if we decided to sell him we'll be guaranteed to get his highest potential value.
 
C because he's a prick ... great player but can't forgive him for what he did! He better get hat-tricks against city chelsea arsenal and Liverpool to start the healing process
 
Pogue Mahone said:
You're confident Fergie made the right decisions in the transfer window this summer? You think he knew what he was doing when he signed Bebe and not Van der Vaart?

It's just that... you know... you wouldn't get that impression from your posts on here.
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So the fact I think we aren't allowed to reach 50% wage outgoing in relation to our annual turnover hence being unable to sign high calibre and naturally high earning player's means I question SAF's judgement? Yeah, only in your warped mind, mate.

In essence I think we're broke and are inhibited in terms of the quality of player we can acquire, not lacking in ambition, or the victims of Fergie's "ineptness" as you so widely of the mark, put it.

I suggest you get to know people's views properly before digging up shite on them and accusing them of thinking thing's they quite simply don't.
 
A) It may be a blessing in disguise, all will be good again once he starts scoring goals and winning games, we've seen that with the like of Rio and Ronaldo in the past, but it seems like he's been giving the assurance that big players will come in, and it is obvious when you look at the team at the moment, a couple of world class players are needed.
 
It says a lot about this forum that people are allowed to slag off the clubs ambition, slag off the current squad and insinuate Fergies not up to the task, but because he's "world class" they're greatful to have him here and it's good news.

fecking hell, this isn't what Uniteds about. This isn't what it means to be a football fan.
 
Twigginater said:
It says a lot about this forum that people are allowed to slag off the clubs ambition, slag off the current squad and insinuate Fergies not up to the task, but because he's "world class" they're greatful to have him here and it's good news.

fecking hell, this isn't what Uniteds about. This isn't what it means to be a football fan.
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Spot on. The majority of the 35%(as it stands) who say they are chuffed he's re-signed are hypocrites with very shallow memory banks and morals, as far as I can see.

The majority of his apologists now were ripping into him for the last few days, without a doubt. Sad that seeing someone double his salary on the back of such behaviour has created such joy and so many u-turns.

Sad reflection of football fans, to be honest.
 
Twigginater said:
It says a lot about this forum that people are allowed to slag off the clubs ambition, slag off the current squad and insinuate Fergies not up to the task, but because he's "world class" they're greatful to have him here and it's good news.

fecking hell, this isn't what Uniteds about. This isn't what it means to be a football fan.
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There's not a person involved with football that doesn't realize that the lack of ambition stuff is rubbish.

It's a big difference to being grateful and realizing that replacing Rooney is harder than most transfer muppets advocate.
 
WireRed said:
Spot on. The majority of the 35%(as it stands) who say they are chuffed he's re-signed are hypocrites with very shallow memory banks and morals, as far as I can see.

The majority of his apologists now were ripping into him for the last few days, without a doubt. Sad that seeing someone double his salary on the back of such behaviour has created such joy and so many u-turns.

Sad reflection of football fans, to be honest.
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Absolutely spot on. It's sad to think how many fans would sacrifice what makes a club great, just to win things constantly. It's a sad fecking day for football today, make no mistake about it, and the fact that United fans are happy because "he'd be hard to replace" is absurd.
 
Are you’re kidding me?!? How can you possibly think that the club have made themselves look bad by resigning him?!?

Don't get me wrong, I've completely and in every way lost all respect for Wayne Rooney as a human being, and it would take a complete act of god or unbelievable transformation of his character in order for me to not feel dirty about holding him in the regard that I once did...but...he’s still the most talented player we have, and when on form has shown that he can be the driving force of the team. If he stays for the length of the contract then we continue forward with a hell of a good footballer in our squad.

On the flip side, he’s completely lost his ability to demand anything else from the club for another 5 years. He and that cnut of an agent of his (they’re both cnuts to be honest) are no longer in the drivers seat as to whether he stays or goes. It’s completely up to club now! That’s absolutely brilliant!

And on that note, how much did his value just go up?! We just went from having to try to find a way to offload the prick in the next several months and not take a loss or possibly sell him to Citeh :confused:, to now being able to demand full price if we so choose to give em' the boot!

This is a win, win, win situation all around, and a grand masterstroke of managing genius from SAF.

Thinking about our manager literally fills me with giddy delight right now. I might just close my eyes and masturbate to the thought of him.
 
Twigginater said:
It says a lot about this forum that people are allowed to slag off the clubs ambition, slag off the current squad and insinuate Fergies not up to the task, but because he's "world class" they're greatful to have him here and it's good news.

fecking hell, this isn't what Uniteds about. This isn't what it means to be a football fan.
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What does it say about Sir Alex, then, if he's taken the exact same view?

You've got a beautiful view of what football really is, but it's a distorted one I reckon. At least at this level. 95% of the players at top clubs don't have any more sense of loyalty to the club than you feel towards your employer. That's what it is now - an employee-employer relationship. There's no love and there's very little appreciation for what 'football is really about'. Do most players care if they hurt the supporters that love them? Do they feck.

I've no trouble accepting that because I've grown up with it, I've known nothing different bar a few exceptions. You can hang on to your view of what the beautiful game really means, but you'll find very few footballers hold the same view, I'd imagine. I think some people take their role as a supporter a bit too seriously.

If we sold Rooney and brought in Dzeko, do you think he'd love the club any more? What about Benzema? Nahhhhhhh. They'd come here because they'd get loads of cash-money and they'd win loads of bling. Footballer's at the top level have all the power and because of that they all have huge egos and can act like massive pricks, and they'll still be adored and still make more money we can dream of.
 
C. The man's cancer, how can Ferguson reward the example he's setting for the young players coming through.
 
Selected A for a few reasons.

A guy I know once wrote about a baseball team that had a smallish payroll and tended not to keep players for their whole careers, "At the end, if you're cheering for the team's success, it can't be about individual players. Individual players will come and go. Individual players will be jerks, cheat on their wives, drink and drive, and leave for more money from a team you hate. You want the overpaid primma donna man-children wearing the same shirts you are to beat the overpaid primma donna man-children wearing different shirts. You're not rooting for the players, you're rooting for the laundry. If you can't accept that, than professional sports will break your heart over and over again, and you should find another hobby."

Whether we keep him or sell him, this signing significantly strengthens Manchester United. Moreover, not having this be a story for the rest of the year is going to make things easier on the rest of the squad.

I get that people are still pissed off, but even if you don't like Rooney as much as you used to, even after he starts scoring goals again, MUFC is better off for it.
 
Brwned said:
What does it say about Sir Alex, then, if he's taken the exact same view?
You've got a beautiful view of what football really is, but it's a distorted one I reckon. At least at this level. 95% of the players at top clubs don't have any more sense of loyalty to the club than you feel towards your employer. That's what it is now - an employee-employer relationship. There's no love and there's very little appreciation for what 'football is really about'. Do most players care if they hurt the supporters that love them? Do they feck.

I've no trouble accepting that because I've grown up with it, I've known nothing different bar a few exceptions. You can hang on to your view of what the beautiful game really means, but you'll find very few footballers hold the same view, I'd imagine. I think some people take their role as a supporter a bit too seriously.
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Who says he has? This new contract gives us control and means we won't be losing an asset for a knockdown price, as we would likely have done in january or at the end of the season. It also kills all the fuss stone dead.

That's not to say he won't be jettisoned further down the track or that SAF isn't very dissapointed with his conduct.
 
Brwned said:
What does it say about Sir Alex, then, if he's taken the exact same view?

You've got a beautiful view of what football really is, but it's a distorted one I reckon. At least at this level. 95% of the players at top clubs don't have any more sense of loyalty to the club than you feel towards your employer. That's what it is now - an employee-employer relationship. There's no love and there's very little appreciation for what 'football is really about'. Do most players care if they hurt the supporters that love them? Do they feck.

I've no trouble accepting that because I've grown up with it, I've known nothing different bar a few exceptions. You can hang on to your view of what the beautiful game really means, but you'll find very few footballers hold the same view, I'd imagine. I think some people take their role as a supporter a bit too seriously.
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In a way I agree, but looking at the players united have had under Fergie, the ones that don't fall into that 5% of exceptions tend to get shipped out when it becomes a public issue.
 
Brwned said:
What does it say about Sir Alex, then, if he's taken the exact same view?

You've got a beautiful view of what football really is, but it's a distorted one I reckon. At least at this level. 95% of the players at top clubs don't have any more sense of loyalty to the club than you feel towards your employer. That's what it is now - an employee-employer relationship. There's no love and there's very little appreciation for what 'football is really about'. Do most players care if they hurt the supporters that love them? Do they feck.

I've no trouble accepting that because I've grown up with it, I've known nothing different bar a few exceptions. You can hang on to your view of what the beautiful game really means, but you'll find very few footballers hold the same view, I'd imagine. I think some people take their role as a supporter a bit too seriously.
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I don't know what it says about Sir Alex tbh. Does he know he wouldn't get the funds to replace? Has Rooney grovelled to him? Has he bollocked the royal shit out of Rooney? Has he done it so he can sell him on for more? feck knows what he knows.

What I do know is, and what EVERYONE on this forum knew yesterday was that Rooney was acting stupid. He was a prick. I don't care if he's changed his mind or why.It's like your girlfriend has been whoring herself out and now I'm supposed to just accept it. No. I don't care if it's the norm, it's not supposed to be, and the fact this is a one off case says to me that it's not. He's disrespected me personally. He's humiliated the club. He doesn't deserve my support. He's everything that you're not supposed to be, and what you're not supposed to support during football. Those lads at the game midweek had the right idea, he's a whore. A whore for whoever will pay him a few grand more.

Some people can look past it. Not me. It's not what United is about.
 
Isn't Rooney doing exactly like what Gerrard has done a few years ago and Liverpool fans now lookup to him as a legend.

What i'm saying is time heals all wounds.
 
WireRed said:
Who says he has? This new contract gives us control and means we won't be losing an asset for a knockdown price, as we would likely have done in january or at the end of the season. It also kills all the fuss stone dead.

That's not to say he won't be jettisoned further down the track or that SAF isn't very dissapointed with his conduct.
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Erm...himself?

"I said to the boy that the door is always open and I'm delighted Wayne has agreed to stay."

Obviously Sir Alex talks bollocks in the press all the time, but anything he's said is a lot more credible than what you or I believe he actually thinks. So at this moment in time, the only assumption we can make is thathe's happy Rooney's still here.

As am I. Delighted in fact.

CptMarvel said:
In a way I agree, but looking at the players united have had under Fergie, the ones that don't fall into that 5% of exceptions tend to get shipped out when it becomes a public issue.
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I think that's a sign of the changing times really, he's acknowledged more and more over the years that the players are the ones with the power and he's had to adjust because of that.
 
A bit of C and A. C for being such a drama queen. A for the fact we manage to keep the best player in our team, like it or not.
 
WireRed said:
Who says he has? This new contract gives us control and means we won't be losing an asset for a knockdown price, as we would likely have done in january or at the end of the season. It also kills all the fuss stone dead.

That's not to say he won't be jettisoned further down the track or that SAF isn't very dissapointed with his conduct.
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Since when has Utd started giving 5 year deals to players they want to sell? Get real.
 
I think it's possible to be happy that Rooney, the footballer, is still at United despite losing any respect you might have had for Rooney, the man. I was delighted when Ronaldo was convinced by Fergie to stay at United (on two separate occasions) despite being pissed off at him for needing to be convinced.

Rooney's behaved even worse but I'm still pleased he's staying at United, irrespective of my opinion of him as a person. Besides, the whole shagging a whore while his wife was pregnant thing means my opinion of him as a person couldn't really get any lower.
 
pauldyson1uk said:
even if he does , I wont be singing his name like I would of done before all this.
BUT Yes I am glad he is staying.
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I'll never sing his name again and me Rooney jersey is fir the attic

I will be surprised if we ever hear his name sung at OT the way it used to be ...
He's done the dirty on us now as well as his family
 
Mood swing rollercoaster for me. Now I'm feeling pretty non-plussed about the whole thing, although SAFs statement made me feel slightly better about it
 
Pogue Mahone said:
I think it's possible to be happy that Rooney, the footballer, is still at United despite losing any respect you might have had for Rooney, the man. I was delighted when Ronaldo was convinced by Fergie to stay at United (on two separate occasions) despite being pissed off at him for needing to be convinced.

Rooney's behaved even worse but I'm still pleased he's staying at United, irrespective of my opinion of him as a person. Besides, the whole shagging a whore while his wife was pregnant thing means my opinion of him as a person couldn't really get any lower.
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It's alot more important what they do on the pitch than off it, for example Cantona kicked a fan, went of sulking to France and wasn't going to come back until Ferguson talked him round. He came back to have possibly his best season and turned into one of our biggest legends, do you think Utd fans where thinking about that when he scored the cup final winner against the bindippers? Like i said in another thread Giggs, Scholes and to a lesser extent Neville are one offs most footballers do behave badly but we love them for the joy they bring on the pitch. Every Utd fan should be pleased today one of the best players in the world has signed a 5 year deal taking him through his peak years with us.
 
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