This... Its not like our "star" players were any better tonight.. Maybe we should also sell them!
EL L Europa League Group A
Feyenoord 1:0 Manchester United
Post-match discussion
Thu, 15 September 2016
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This... Its not like our "star" players were any better tonight.. Maybe we should also sell them!
The hate on the ref is partly justified, but you honestly dont know what it is to be a non significant club. Dutch teams are pretty much ALWAYS at a disadvantage with the ref against teams like United. Psv against atletico is just one example. Give us your budget and you can have the favourable offside call.
We got lucky tonight, but United should batter Feyenoord 0-5 and they should be ashamed.
We got lucky tonight, but United should batter Feyenoord 0-5 and they should be ashamed.
Bad game but expected - i'm sure we will improve.
It's been like this more ages. I think there are ones who need to go, but they needed to go in the summer and that hasn't changed. Others need minutes to get up to speed. Rojo and Memphis are the main ones and Ashley Young, who has outlasted his usefulness. We were trying to shift Rojo, who it seems will need to be removed kicking and screaming. There seems to be a number of takers for Darmian who I think is decent, but we need an attacking fullback. Memphis is the one who has really disappointed me.
I know.
This place has become a cesspit. Every fecking thread turns to who is useless and who should we sell. It's a TEAM game. You would think that seeing Leicester win the league might convince most it's about having a plan and playing as a team. Swapping one player for another won't help if the plan is still no good.
We'll continue to struggle if we insist on playing a midfield who can't pass the ball.
1. Pep has inherited the best squad in the league by far and strengthened it further.
2. City already played possession based pass and move football before Pep arrived. All he has added to them is better fitness, better off the ball work in terms of pressing and better tactics than Pellegrini. Mourinho in comparison has not only had to add a new spine to the team, he is also teaching them to switch to direct, quick passing, pressing, playing in transitions football, that allows more instinctive play, a far cry from the controlling possession approach grilled into them by LVG for 2 years.
3. Baring Porto and his first Chelsea stint. All Mourinho"s teams have been best in their second season. It has always taken a season for them to truly reflect a peak play Mourinho team. I see no harm in similar patience at United.
I tried to delete it lol. Smalling not smelling damn autocorrect!! :-)
Its easy for a home team to park a bus and kick holes out of an opponent if the officials are crap and won't make decisions. Enjoy the win, but remember other small clubs have beaten us and played far better than your shower.
We only have two midfielders who can pass the ball and they're both ready for the Travellers yard.
I meant YAWN by the Feyenoord support after the game but yes that too.
Say what you like about Memphis but he cared. Herrera, Rashford and Bailly too.
They finished fourth last season
Ah the only the locals understand the culture crap which is a load of bollox and self righteous crap. If the culture is being apologetic to constantly underperforming players then we need to get rid of that shit and the players need to be hold accountable by the fans a lot more to make sure they don´t rest on their laurels and show up half arsed thinking there wont be any consequence to putting in less than 100% effort. You can have off days but with the wages they get then less than 100% effort is totally unacceptable weather its the EL or not as most of the team helped us getting there they have zero right to feel they are better than that.. just because you wear the red devil jersey dosn´t make you entitled to anything other than what you earn on the pitch and the players need to realize this.
The problem today is easily summed up: Every time we put Feyenoord under pressure, they made mistake. Still we put 9 players in our own half. We have played 5 matches - and already Mourinho is pissing me off.
Because they under performed horrendously under Pellegrini. A reason he deserved to be replaced.
Not when about 6-8 players played their first minutes since pre-season..
It's certainly a problem. But I'm sure Carrick could play a few minutes here and there.
And there it is: the response after the City game.
Can't wait to read all the twitter excuses again. I'm sure they're all devastated and they're working hard.
Can't wait to read all the twitter excuses again. I'm sure they're all devastated and they're working hard.
He'll play against Northampton during the week.
Citys squad didn't really stand out prior to the new manager arrivals. It had (and still has) a spine of old players, with a definite lack of quality in central areas such as goal keeper, both side backs and central midfield.
They now have a squad that is around the level of the United squad in my opinion. I even think United can field the strongest XI when all players are fit because of no weaknesses in the team, compared to City who has very average side backs, an unproven goalkeeper and unreliable centre backs.
Fair bit of knee-jerking in this thread.
It's early days - we have a squad used to playing mind numbing football for the last three seasons. Three seasons is a long time to play like that and as such it will take a while to break out of it.
Better to have these performances now than half way through the season and drop out of contention (if indeed we are in contention).
Yeah, tonight's performance was shocking but this is the first time a few of those players have played this season and I am certain Jose will have learned more from this game than he would have from a routine 2-0 win.
It's early days - we have a squad used to playing mind numbing football for the last three seasons. Three seasons is a long time to play like that and as such it will take a while to break out of it.
Better to have these performances now than half way through the season and drop out of contention (if indeed we are in contention).
Yeah, tonight's performance was shocking but this is the first time a few of those players have played this season and I am certain Jose will have learned more from this game than he would have from a routine 2-0 win.
Subs cost us the match, Young and Depay were absolute dreadful and slowed down our play. No service at all today for Rashford or Ibra
Don't think we'll be seeing Rojo or Darmain for awhile either, couldn't defend when asked and no attacking qualities from either
Bad day in the office....
Don't think we'll be seeing Rojo or Darmain for awhile either, couldn't defend when asked and no attacking qualities from either
Bad day in the office....
Most of this side didn't play against City. It is the Watford game you need their response.
amazing reaction even by caf standards
Maybe it's smart to leave redcafe until Watford. And if we lose maybe to leave it some more. God forbid we lose.
It was a shit day in office but far too many overreactions.
It was a shit day in office but far too many overreactions.
Even by knee jerk reactions it is on another level. Most of the ones moaning keep saying what a shit competition it is and to get knocked out as soon as possible. It was a side who had mainly played either no or very little time and a referee who seemed to be terrified of causing a riot if he gave a decision against the home side.
We are becoming very similar to Villa in some way. The personal & players keep changing, but the football & results don't. Obviously different level, but their fans are saying the same thing.
Good summary, a lot of the lads out there have had little first team action this season, and the ref seemed timid to say the least.
8 changes to our team vs Man City so yeh, fair to say second string IMO
You need to get out more.
Anyone remember this side drawing 0-0 against Exeter City, then of the conference, at Old Trafford in the 3rd round of the FA Cup in 2005. Ferguson went ballistic after this, & many of these players didn't play again. Interestingly Ronaldo & Scholes came on as subs to try to win the game, & Gerald Pique started.
Man Utd: Howard, Phil Neville, Brown, Pique, Spector,Eagles (Ronaldo 63), Djemba-Djemba, Jones, Miller (Scholes 63),Bellion (Smith 76), Richardson.
Subs Not Used: Heinze, Ricardo.
DDG I thought should have been rested, think he was right to play Bailly, Pogba (both new and need games) and Martial has been off form. I'm not saying he is deliberately playing a weak team and hoping to crash out early but I don't think he values the competion and has said as much.
Why would that change it being a second string? We are talking about United not Feyenoord
You do realize this team played together for the 1st time. Not that it's an excuse but it's a fact.
Beyond poor. Uninspired, incompetent and utterly unaware of it. We played like Feyenoord wanted to play but couldn't because nothing would have happened. You'd have two teams waiting for the counter that never came.
And still, players who are unfit, injured every two games. Pogba is weird enough, but Martial.. have they locked him up or something? Did they make Rojo work the road to make up for lost value?
I remember when this was starting to get silly, but you lose track of the years and run out of superlatives at some point.
And still, players who are unfit, injured every two games. Pogba is weird enough, but Martial.. have they locked him up or something? Did they make Rojo work the road to make up for lost value?
I remember when this was starting to get silly, but you lose track of the years and run out of superlatives at some point.
First he needs to learn how to kick a ball in the right direction. Every time he takes a shot, free kick, corner, whatever it is he blasts it onto the roof of the stand. And he's trying to dribble around a player and gets robbed practically every time. He is so frustrating it makes me pull my hair out. He was like this last season too, I was hoping it might have been something he worked on since but apparently not.
I'm not too concerned, I think for now we need not to panic and allow the team to gel. Once we build confidence the performances will come.
Regarding tonight, I just don't think we're truly up for this competition. As much as we can give it lip service, you can't fake it. Even as a fan, I want to say I'd love us to win it, but the truth is I don't really care.
Regarding tonight, I just don't think we're truly up for this competition. As much as we can give it lip service, you can't fake it. Even as a fan, I want to say I'd love us to win it, but the truth is I don't really care.
This will be a tough game for Jose to take some lessons from. I don't think the tactics were completely wrong, but there were several players not match fit, and the constant fouling allowed by the ref also makes it tough to learn anything from here.
I was a bit concerned that Pogba seemed to want to do too much by himself. Maybe too much pressure on him.
I was a bit concerned that Pogba seemed to want to do too much by himself. Maybe too much pressure on him.
Man of the Match
Runners-up
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19%
Eric Bailly
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7%
David de Gea
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7%
Chris Smalling
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6%
Morgan Schneiderlin
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5%
Zlatan Ibrahimovic
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4%
Marcus Rashford
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4%
Matteo Darmian
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3%
Paul Pogba
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2%
Anthony Martial
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1%
Marcos Rojo
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1%
Ashley Young
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1%
Memphis Depay
Player Ratings
Total Average Rating
Highest Rated Player
Lowest Rated Player
Compiled from 460 ratings.
Score Predictions
654,50,87
- Man Utd win
- Feyenoord win
- Draw
Detailed Results
- 27% Feyenoord 0:2 Man Utd
- 17% Feyenoord 1:2 Man Utd
- 13% Feyenoord 1:3 Man Utd
- 13% Feyenoord 0:3 Man Utd
- 8% Feyenoord 1:1 Man Utd
- 7% Feyenoord 0:1 Man Utd
- 2% Feyenoord 2:1 Man Utd
- 2% Feyenoord 1:4 Man Utd
- 2% Feyenoord 0:4 Man Utd
- 2% Feyenoord 0:5 Man Utd
- 2% Feyenoord 0:0 Man Utd
- 1% Feyenoord 1:0 Man Utd
- 1% Feyenoord 2:2 Man Utd
- 1% Feyenoord 2:3 Man Utd
- 1% Feyenoord 3:0 Man Utd
- 1% Feyenoord 2:0 Man Utd
- 1% Feyenoord 5:0 Man Utd
- 1% Feyenoord 2:4 Man Utd
- 1% Feyenoord 3:1 Man Utd
- 0% Feyenoord 1:5 Man Utd
- 0% Feyenoord 4:5 Man Utd
- 0% Feyenoord 3:2 Man Utd
- 0% Feyenoord 4:0 Man Utd
Match Stats
- Feyenoord
- Man Utd
- Possession
- 43% 57%
- Shots
- 8 18
- Shots on Target
- 3 4
- Corners
- 4 4
- Fouls
- 22 6
Referee
Jesus Gil Manzano
Man Utd Lineup
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replaced by Ashley Young
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replaced by Memphis Depay
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replaced by Zlatan Ibrahimovic
