[roseguy64]

Sadly I see much more flattering to deceive than end product. He did work hard defensively to be fair.

Martial barely had to do any defending today

 

[edgar allan]

I just think people are knee jerking. The finishing was ridiculous today. And those defensive errors really cost us but had we won this game, I don't think people would be talking about the individual performance of these players today. For the most part I thought we played well. We actually looked like a competent attacking team almost.

Well we were more positive for sure, until the end where we retreated defensively again( even against 10) and were punished. We have got away with it over the last few weeks, or luck ran out today.

 

[RC89]

Well we were more positive for sure, until the end where we retreated defensively again( even against 10) and were punished. We have got away with it over the last few weeks, or luck ran out today.

I don't think it's luck either. While I thought we otherwise played well, by retreating so much, we've been asking for this. It just bit us in the ass this time. Clearly a Jose tactic though.

 

[Macern]

This is a genuine question .

Does it all come from Jose ?

Definitely not. It isn’t Mourinho’s fault. He inherited a terrible squad.

 

[downunder red]

This team has everything we need , but leaders! We're creating heaps of chances, controlling games but we need a Keane or a Robson to call the shots out on the pitch. Jose can only do so much of the bench. I'd love to see some one blast a teammate for not doing his job right. Years ago you would see it quite often.

 

[ravi2]

How the standards at this club have fallen.... Did Lukkaku even test the GK once, his job is to put the ball in the back of the net, and unless he gets a tap in or a header, he cant score, that is no where near how a striker should be at this club

Lukaku is a striker that needs service to score, Jose knew that before buying him.
The rest of the attack needs to take a look at themselves today, Lukaku was ok

 

[Charley Vincento]

This United team just can't deal with expectation. Utterly spineless. We probably would have won that against 11 men, but the fact they had 10 made us shit ourselves. The state of the finishing. The state of the performance in those last few minutes. Even Liverpool would have seen that out after the red card (actually they would have won 4/5-1).

We have to go and buy some attacking players in January who are clinical. Even then I think the mentality of the squad is fecked. The bigger picture is that in the post-SAF era we just can't handle the pressure. It may be years before the mentality changes.

Not sure about that, it was a beautiful ball from Albrighton. Those are the kind of aerial balls that give Lovren, Mignolet problems

Perhaps Liverpool would have converted 1 of the 3 gimmes, those were shocking misses

 

[Freak]

Our attackers should be docked wages for the week. I mean they were ridiculously easy chances that as an attacker who is paid millions need to finish. Martial, Lingard and Rashford all need a good looking at themselves.

I honestly think sometimes our players are idiots. They make so many basic mistakes and don’t seem to be proactive. Smalling goes off injures and no one really covers him.

 

[Baby Groot]

Sounds like 5-3 all over. Expect Leicester to win the league next year then.

 

[Offside]

We’ve gone to shit in defence in recent weeks. We let Watford back into the game a few weeks back, relied completely on the goalkeeper at Arsenal, simply woeful goals we conceded against City and let West Brom back into it needlessly last week. A game like yesterday has been in the post for a while.

I wouldn’t mind a 2-0 boring win against Burnley now. Our games have been far too open recently...but then again that wouldn’t be a problem if our attackers weren’t the exact opposite of clinical. We just can’t get the right balance. Doesn’t help when the back 4 changes all the time and our attacking players are so Young or are just clowns like Mkhitaryan. We need some established attacking players as soon as.

 

[KomodoBadger]

If the title wasn’t already gone, it is now.

 

[Oakie]

United are the only team in the league that can turn having a man advantage into a handicap.

Hah! That made me choke on my Haribo!

Merry Christmas

 

[Water Melon]

This was one was the worst one. A goal up, a player up, and still let it slip. We parked a BMW zeta not a double-decker bus.

 

[Himannv]

Definitely not. It isn’t Mourinho’s fault. He inherited a terrible squad.

While I don't really blame Jose for this loss, that's not exactly an excuse anymore. With 7 new signings he basically has over half a team of his own choices right now.

The players have to raise their hands up here though. Those were some really great chances they missed today and Smalling should not have been the man marking Mcguire there when he was clearly injured.

 

[Betson]

I have not read anything before now , but I really hope no one is going on about how unlucky we were tonight.

We got exactly what we deserved out of the game , we were awful and deserved that sucker punch.

 

[mayurr]

Who is to blame?

For this particular game...may be players..missing good chances, but then you can argue that even Leicester missed few .

On overall I think mourinho has to take blame for it. Because he isnt building your team on performance level. Just improving result wont work anymore as epl is getting stronger day by day.

Its ok for someone like moyes to only care for results at westham. But at the club of the size of united and particularly with the resources available mourinho should be building a team not to just chip in results but to dominate the league, something pep is trying to do at city. Mourinho was signed even before your season ended, and i don't think there was any instant pressure on him to deliver. Had good amount of time and money to really create a more stable and dominant team.

 

[Water Melon]

Who is to blame?

For this particular game...may be players..missing good chances, but then you can argue that even Leicester missed few .

On overall I think mourinho has to take blame for it. Because he isnt building your team on performance level. Just improving result wont work anymore as epl is getting stronger day by day.

Its ok for someone like moyes to only care for results at westham. But at the club of the size of united and particularly with the resources available mourinho should be building a team not to just chip in results but to dominate the league, something pep is trying to do at city. Mourinho was signed even before your season ended, and i don't think there was any instant pressure on him to deliver. Had good amount of time and money to really create a more stable and dominant team.

Agreed. Of course the players are to blame too, but my feeling is that we are not functioning as a coherent team, we seem like a bunch of individual players.

 

[DdeGoat]

Still cannot believe that happened. 2 points thrown away. It's so frustrating.

I don't know where to begin. It wasn't an unfortunate circumstance that led to the equalizer, our team somehow conspired for 90 minutes to give Leicester the point.

Do not know why De Gea did not come out of the line to clear the ball for the first goal. Do not know why Smalling didn't make more of an effort to pressure Mahrez and let him shoot instead of allowing him to wait for Vardy to arrive.

Do not know how all three of Martial, Lingard and Rashford missed open goals. Criminal at this level; and for a team that creates so few goal scoring opportunities.

Why did we decide to sit back against a team with a man down? We again and again do this and land ourselves in difficult situations. This is not a defense with Ferriera, Terry, Carvalho & Gallas or Neville, Rio, Vidic & Evra. It's fecking Lindelof, Smalling, Jones and Young. They are not going to be able to keep teams at bay. It's so annoying that we do this.

Why doesn't our team have any composure? Even mid-table teams do a better job keeping the ball. We need to get a new central midfielder to assist Matic and let Pogba roam around. He isn't a midfielder for a team that sits back.

What has happened to Rashford? If he showed any brains we could have seen out the game with ease.

That last bit with an injured Smallinh was hilariously bad. That shouldn't happen at championship level, forget for one of the top teams in the world. Amateurish stuff.

We looked like a badly coached team with brain dead individuals. So pissed that we are going to let City walk to the title. Should have gained points on them in this period, not get further behind.

 

[Theonas]

I am far from a fan of his but today, he and his tactics take a back seat for me. The finishing and general lack of composure when trying to start attacks was absolutely dreadful. This was maybe our best away performance of the season and if not for individual errors when attacking, we should have easily scored 4 or 5 and that's maybe the first time I could say that all season. Even the retreating in the last 10 minutes is not as bad as it was in some games, it looked more like due to the panic generated from missing the chances than an inability to push higher up.

 

[MZX7]

Mourinho Time doesn't seem as much fun as Fergie Time.

Also Mourinho time starts as soon as we get a goal and sit back.

Even if it's just Leicester. Even if they're playing with 10 men.

But, the blame for today lies all at the feet of Rashford, Lingard and Martial.

Rashford seems to have fashioned himself into some sort of a diva. Not every one can handle praise. Rashford seems to have taken the praise he got at the beginning of the season to his head. Shocking performance.

 

[Sgeorge]

I would blame this defeat on Jose. To tell the truth we didn't really dominate them, you could always feel they would score or will create chances since we were never completely in control of the game. The major issues I saw was


1. Matic and Pogba as two central midfielders doesn't provide defensive stability or control, Leicester players were able to pick passes from back to front easily.

2. Mahrez was not man marked and considering he is the only really good player for them, think we shouldn't have allowed him that much freedom.

3. The players confidence is shattered in front of goal, which I think is caused by a lot of negative tactics thrown around by Jose and we are not in that scoring mood anymore.

4. Smalling and Jones would be excellent defenders for WBA or a Stoke, but they are not Man Utd standard. We need good defenders with composure. IMO Rojo and Bailly should be first choice once they are both available.

5. For all the hate Mkhitariyan gets, I for one believe that he has still a chance at this club. He is a proven player and he will come good once Jose plays more positive balanced football.

6. Rashford needs to be dropped from the squad, just so that he can refocus.

7. DDG is arguably one of the best GK's, but he can still improve on many aspects like commanding the area, better distribution etc..

 

[amolbhatia50k]

I would blame this defeat on Jose. To tell the truth we didn't really dominate them, you could always feel they would score or will create chances since we were never completely in control of the game. The major issues I saw was


1. Matic and Pogba as two central midfielders doesn't provide defensive stability or control, Leicester players were able to pick passes from back to front easily.

2. Mahrez was not man marked and considering he is the only really good player for them, think we shouldn't have allowed him that much freedom.

3. The players confidence is shattered in front of goal, which I think is caused by a lot of negative tactics thrown around by Jose and we are not in that scoring mood anymore.

4. Smalling and Jones would be excellent defenders for WBA or a Stoke, but they are not Man Utd standard. We need good defenders with composure. IMO Rojo and Bailly should be first choice once they are both available.

5. For all the hate Mkhitariyan gets, I for one believe that he has still a chance at this club. He is a proven player and he will come good once Jose plays more positive balanced football.

6. Rashford needs to be dropped from the squad, just so that he can refocus.

7. DDG is arguably one of the best GK's, but he can still improve on many aspects like commanding the area, better distribution etc..

We lost against Liecster? Bugger. I thought he had won. Week ruined.

We played very well today but some poor decision making cost us.

Rashford needs dropping? Why the feck?

 

[7even]

Who is to blame?

For this particular game...may be players..missing good chances, but then you can argue that even Leicester missed few .

On overall I think mourinho has to take blame for it. Because he isnt building your team on performance level. Just improving result wont work anymore as epl is getting stronger day by day.

Its ok for someone like moyes to only care for results at westham. But at the club of the size of united and particularly with the resources available mourinho should be building a team not to just chip in results but to dominate the league, something pep is trying to do at city. Mourinho was signed even before your season ended, and i don't think there was any instant pressure on him to deliver. Had good amount of time and money to really create a more stable and dominant team.

Some observations.

1. We can’t cope under pressure. Some of our players are so afraid to do mistakes that they literally freeze and ending up doing almost nothing. They react slowly, they stop to communicate and can’t even doing the basics without fumbling.

2. The last ten minutes we don’t play as a team. Our organization fall into pieces. Some players stroll around without even know what to do. We look like a bunch of idiots out there. Our defenders drop back, our midfielders stands in the middle of nowhere and our forwards stops to play. Why?

3. Lack of leadership.

I will not blame individuals, we win as a team and lose as a team. But when things go south we need cool heads who can handle the pressure. At the moment I don’t find any real leaders in our team.

4. Who’s to blame?

They all need to take responsibility.

The manager is the one who selects the line up. Who gives instructions how to play. Yesterday he should have been more active on the side line the last ten minutes. The management looked non existing when the players needed guidance. That’s s his fault.

Individual mistakes. Players can’t blame anybody except themselves for fecking up so badly. Absolutely no excuses.

The sad part is that with a result like this all we remember is the last ten minutes. Media will spin on our shortcomings. Pundits will rip the whole club into pieces. We are second in the league but the discussion will be about a club in crisis.

 

[Sgeorge]

We lost against Liecster? Bugger. I thought he had won. Week ruined.

We played very well today but some poor decision making cost us.

Rashford needs dropping? Why the feck?

Sorry a draw, well almost felt like a defeat.

 

[Slimcharles69]

Deserved result after the comical misses

 

[Z1L3]

I would blame this defeat on Jose. To tell the truth we didn't really dominate them, you could always feel they would score or will create chances since we were never completely in control of the game. The major issues I saw was


1. Matic and Pogba as two central midfielders doesn't provide defensive stability or control, Leicester players were able to pick passes from back to front easily.

So when he plays defensively, then he is parking the bus and not playing the attractive brand of football that the fans demand. When he plays more offensively, then it's not enough defensive stability, and it's his fault that the strikers can't put away 5 sitters (you covered that in #3, so you are actually blaming him for that).

Also, see #5.

2. Mahrez was not man marked and considering he is the only really good player for them, think we shouldn't have allowed him that much freedom.

So now we need more defensive stability and man marking on their one good player. We don't want offensive flair. We want defense and man marking the only good player Leicester has. Hmm...

3. The players confidence is shattered in front of goal, which I think is caused by a lot of negative tactics thrown around by Jose and we are not in that scoring mood anymore.

"Inspiration is for amateurs." Chuck Close

4. Smalling and Jones would be excellent defenders for WBA or a Stoke, but they are not Man Utd standard. We need good defenders with composure. IMO Rojo and Bailly should be first choice once they are both available.

Once they are both available. Maybe Jose is at fault for their injuries. I wouldn't be surprised if someone said this.

5. For all the hate Mkhitariyan gets, I for one believe that he has still a chance at this club. He is a proven player and he will come good once Jose plays more positive balanced football.

So now you want more positive football? See #1.

6. Rashford needs to be dropped from the squad, just so that he can refocus.

7. DDG is arguably one of the best GK's, but he can still improve on many aspects like commanding the area, better distribution etc..

 

[Jaap]

Definitely not. It isn’t Mourinho’s fault. He inherited a terrible squad.

He had two summer transfer windows...

 

[Esquire]

They just seem such an unlikeable team at the moment. Really struggling to watch them.

Forget all the analysis which are all pretty similar and spot on. Your statement is really the distilled essence. This team is just unlikeable. For a Mou team they are really not well drilled nor tactically aware.

 

[Esquire]

Thought we were good today - utterly in control and should have been out of sight. First goal was poor goalkeeping and a combined team idiot moment - it happens. Smalling shouldn't have been on the pitch for their second - extremely poor decision by him and coaching staff.

There were no more subs available for Smalling. But he should not have been playing there anyway for the last goal.

 

[Water Melon]

He had two summer transfer windows...

Do not you know it is just a start of re-building? He will get his 3rd summer transfer window, and if he wins nothing of note and leaves, some people will still claim that he needed more time now that he finally got the team he wished.

 

[Esquire]

That requires brains and leadership, something we haven't seen for 4 years.

Mou said his players were childish but he could have stood up, run out to the touch line and yelled some instructions? Why leave it up to the players at that critical juncture when we see him on the sidelines all the time?

Not exonerating the players but I think it’s unfair for Mou to just blame the players for the dropped points. He is the manager and could have tried to rectify the clearly worsening situation over the last 10 minutes by giving some instructions.

 

[dichinero]

Sorry but that was not what I'd call an utterly dominant display. What game did people watch?

 

[Esquire]

Wow this infuriated me. Lukaku who busted a gut all game made a run only for Rashford to jog onto the ball and turn around. I'd have been livid if I was Lukaku because he was in acres of space.

Agreed. It’s almost like Rashford didn’t want Lukaku to score. I like Rashford but you can certainly detect more and more selfishness in his game these days. On that one v one he did not have to round the keeper. Hope he refocuses.

 

[Jaap]

Do not you know it is just a start of re-building? He will get his 3rd summer transfer window, and if he wins nothing of note and leaves, some people will still claim that he needed more time now that he finally got the team he wished.

He‘s bought seven players & had January transfer window.
Guardiola didn’t need that much time to rebuild & he inherited pretty much the same problems...

 

[amolbhatia50k]

Agreed. It’s almost like Rashford didn’t want Lukaku to score. I like Rashford but you can certainly detect more and more selfishness in his game these days. On that one v one he did not have to round the keeper. Hope he refocuses.

He wasn't being selfish. It was the 92nd minute and he was unsure whether to play the pass or hold on to the ball and waste time. You could argue that the right pass would have won us the game but the wrong pass would have caused anger. He should probably have passed it given it was not a tough one but I'm more upset at the bloke to took a shot right after that. Forgetting who it was.

 

[caid]

Sitting on a lead and conceding a rubbish goal in the last minute has been going on for a while tbf.
Its not a problem Mourinho created. Though he hasn't done much to help or fix it.

We just didn't look that fecked to me tbh. Pretty much every player looked to be putting an 80% type effort in.
Jones and Lindelof on the first goal being a good example with the pair of them jogging back.
If we were more clinical we'd have gotten away with it and after the game against city i can understand why motivation isn't that high
Its been a poor reaction though and Leicester are one of the few teams good enough to punish us for it

 

[montpelier]

Sorry but that was not what I'd call an utterly dominant display. What game did people watch?

Probably not, but we should have won easily enough, 4-1 vs. the 10 men with folk saying the scoreline flattered us a bit would have been nice & is what should have happened.

 

[GiddyUp]

Great the way Herrera refused to go to RB and then gave Albrighton 10 yards to swing in that cross.... captain material.

He is toxic to our results at the moment and I definately don't see a future for him. Lukaku was right to berate him, 3 on 3 he passes to Lukaku and instead of running to collect the lay off or at least compete to win the ball he stops dead. He takes the easiest fecking option every time and outside of Rashford is the most frustrating player on the team. I would have Jones in there before Herrera for the last 20 minutes. Speaking of Rashford he needs the Christmas off. He has been terrible the last few weeks and today I was absolutely shocked at his dumbfeckery in not passing to Lukaku. Martial should be 90 minutes every game over the next two weeks as Rashford has brought nothing to our attack.

 

[Werd.]

Jose in the post match presser mentioned that he relayed instructions to Young to pass on on how to restruct the defence with Smalling's injury but the instructions weren't carried out. How the feck does that happen?

 

[Esquire]

New manager, tactics, subs, style of play, manager. I am so tired of the cr@p Mourinho is shoveling, we have no identity rxcrpt parking the bus and hoofing the ball to the opposition. Time for a new manager

Think that’s an overreaction. I am a Mou proponent but honestly getting less enamoured by the day. Must be said today’s result was more down to the bad play and finishing of the players more than Mou, but he still takes some of the blame. If any of Rashford, Lingard or Martial had scored the game plan worked to perfection.