[The United]

If it weren't for 2 defensive errors for Lukaku..
Although we were bad I think a draw would be a fair result.

Ours came from their error as well. People like to forget that.

Back to the game, I don't think our squad is so far below like the way we are playing or asked to play against. We didn't seem to have a play for the first 42 mins and seemed like waiting to lose a goal to start any kind of play we had.

But it is not unexpected from jose in big games though.

 

[deafepl]

we must take 3 points away from them at Etihad.

 

[bdspeedy]

Tactics are irrelevant when we don't have any ball winners, tacklers or players with touch or ability to hold onto the ball. Hoof ball never works if we can't beat our opponent to the ball. They were quicker and sharper. Pressed harder. They won every aspect of this game and still needed a piss poor referee, two lucky goals and an unplanned face save by Ederson to win this game.

 

[Jim Beam]

Honestly Mourinho is just Pep's bitch

He was alot better than Mourinho when he was at Barca and Mourinho was at Real and he is alot better now aswell. Mourinho is absolutley clueless compaired to Pep.

Seems Mourinho at United is just good enough to win the small games but when the challenge is real he is a big coward and his coward tactics are punished everytime.

Jog off, please.

I think he must improve our attacking play, but to call him a bitch or not cut out for big games is embarrassing considering his record.

 

[Pscholes18]

Sour grapes from Mourinho...we did nothing with the ball...that's why we lost.

 

[DevilRed]

Wasn't all that bad. Tight game, far from outclassed, just can't shoot yourselves in the foot twice and hope to get a result.

Sense. We gave them a bit too much respect in the first half but the scoreline was 1-1 at the end of the half. Then via some massive individual errors (yet again) we concede the 2nd goal. We also had the best chance of the match to equalise, but didnt. Lukaku had a stinker. That was the difference today.

 

[amolbhatia50k]

This thread is an embarrasment tbh. So much city ass kissing it's unbearable to read. i'm not blind to our deficiencies, but we were without our best player and they scored 2 very very very lucky goals. you lot need to give your heads a wobble.

Lucky? Lukaku shouldn't have kicked the ball at footballers.

 

[Dave89]

This thread is an embarrasment tbh. So much city ass kissing it's unbearable to read. i'm not blind to our deficiencies, but we were without our best player and they scored 2 very very very lucky goals. you lot need to give your heads a wobble.

Pepcafe in full swing

 

[Member 5225]

It's simple..

Depay - £25 million
Mata - £37 million
Di Maria - £60 million
Schweinsteiger - £8 million
Schneiderlin -£27 million
Mkhitaryan - £35 million
Lukaku - £75 million

City are filling their first team with players like..

Silva - £24 million
Sane - £35 million
De Bruyne - £55 million
Jesus - £28 million

None of the above players from our list are showing/showed value for money. And we wonder why we're so far behind.

So so much wasted money, it's depressing.

 

[MadMike]

First off, congrats to City. The league is theirs to lose now.

Secondly, as shite as City's goals might have been, I hated the way we approached the game for 45 mins. We just gifted them possession and didn't string two passes together. If its a personnel issue then we need to buy another midfielder that knows how to pass & move. Herrera/Matic is too static as a duo. Neither of them had a good game in my opinion and while Herrera rightly gets called out for it, I think Matic has escaped criticism a bit too much for me this season. We can't be that reliant on Pogba to make our game tick. Although I don't believe that missing Pogba alone was the case because against Arsenal the possession stats we the same with Pogba in the lineup, we just had more options on the counter. If it's a coaching/tactics issue then Mou needs to back his ideas up a bit because this hoofball approach is beyond shite.

Finally, Lukaku's a clumsy fecker. Like, not even Smalling is that clumsy. He needs to seriously work on the use of his right foot. I don't expect him to be able to ping 60 yard crosses with his right foot like Pogba does with his left, but feck me last week he nearly scored an own goal because he tried to clear the same cross with his left and missed it. This week he went with his right and kicked it straight at a defenders back with no one around him. He's a good player but some of the stuff he does indicate that he needs to work a LOT harder on technique.

On a positive note, some good fight in the second half and De Gea is still the best keeper in the world, let's hope he stays here till he hangs his gloves up.

 

[Raoul]

The game probably went as well as we all expected tbh

Should've equalised though and if we had the result would've been a good one.

Its not done, Xmas is a tough period and we'll see how it all lies in the new year. We need some fatigue and complacency to set in at city though

Making up an 11 point (plus goal difference) deficit against probably the best Prem side ever is not going to happen. We should be looking at improving and finishing as strongly as possible.

 

[buckooo1978]

obvious to me that the 4-3-3 is really limited against the big sides given the players we have

we lack creativity and quality - we created virtually nothing in reality and our attacking players look very isolated

Lingard reverted to his normal self - a hard working runner and Rashford and looked like a young prospect strikers playing right wing

to mind, one pass from Lingard to unleash Lukaku and one lovely bit of play from Mata to Martial and Ederson makes a great reaction save from Lukaku was all we really created

in reality I'm not sure 3-4-3 would have been better but freeing up Young and Valencia is probably preferable as they are natural wide players

overall though City are a better side, pass and work harder with a more positive manager - frustrating

we need pure class up brought in as Jose isn't going to coach a great attacking side outta this squad

 

[Sly]

Lukaku would do nothing in champions league knock outs.

FA cup is Man. United's best opportunity this season and securing second clear of the rest would be progress of course.

I have the same opinion and Mourinho usually takes domestic cups seriously. Unless they spend some serious money on January i don't see United challenging anywhere else. City have been too good in the league and there are better teams in the CL.

 

[mav_9me]

This thread is an embarrasment tbh. So much city ass kissing it's unbearable to read. i'm not blind to our deficiencies, but we were without our best player and they scored 2 very very very lucky goals. you lot need to give your heads a wobble.

I don't think today showed they were better than us. I think the previous weeks with 13 straight victories showed that.

Today we shot ourselves in the foot with our set piece defending.

 

[The red panther]

Pep tactically is a much better manager. I think there is no debate about that. When it comes to motivating the team and man management Mourinho might have the edge, but when it comes to tactics Pep is at another level.

Not even sure about that

City when they play against us they actually look pumped and mentally sharp while our players just look scared. So in terms of being able to motivate them, idk. Also City this season under Pep they just keep going, never take their foot of the pedal, no complaincy, all their prima dona footballers they also battle and bite for every ball.

If you compair the 2 than simply Pep is on another level entirely

 

[United_We_Stand]

 

[Freak]

Wow Jose on full strop mode!!

Maybe he should concentrate on organising his Attack better.

 

[Werd.]

Jose

 

[BarstoolProphet]

This thread is an embarrasment tbh. So much city ass kissing it's unbearable to read. i'm not blind to our deficiencies, but we were without our best player and they scored 2 very very very lucky goals. you lot need to give your heads a wobble.

Despite only scoring two lucky goals they completely outplayed us and showed technical capabilities for a team that seems far off in a Mourinho team. Even their midget-in-chief, David Silva, tormented us physically.

 

[Ban]

Ours came from their error as well. People like to forget that.

Back to the game, I don't think our squad is so far below like the way we are playing or asked to play against. We didn't seem to have a play for the first 42 mins and seemed like waiting to lose a goal to start any kind of play we had.

But it is not unexpected from jose in big games though.

Yeah but then again we had a good chance to make it 2-2. City weren't all that. But of course we should have been better. Sounds like an excuse but with Pogba in we would have played a slightly different game imo.

 

[Raoul]

It's simple..

Depay - £25 million
Mata - £37 million
Di Maria - £60 million
Schweinsteiger - £8 million
Schneiderlin -£27 million
Mkhitaryan - £35 million
Lukaku - £75 million

City are filling their first team with players like..

Silva - £24 million
Sane - £35 million
De Bruyne - £55 million
Jesus - £28 million

None of the above players from our list are showing/showed value for money. And we wonder why we're so far behind.

We also switched managers twice during that period which never helps when the new one wants to buy his own players, so its always one step forward and two steps back.

 

[Ban]

Jog off, please.

I think he must improve our attacking play, but to call him a bitch or not cut out for big games is embarrassing considering his record.

Who is it?
I have him or her on ignore so just asking.

 

[Twisted Nerve]

Why do they keep assigning these games to that no-chin twat Oliver? He's fecking useless

 

[Roger]

Lukaku should be forced to have this as his screensaver all week.

It looks worse every time you watch it.

 

[GM K]

Hands up, I was wrong about Lukaku. I never thought he could be this bang average.

Herrera is good but no more. He is not very good. We were skinned in the midfield.

 

[hn4manunited]

This thread is an embarrasment tbh. So much city ass kissing it's unbearable to read. i'm not blind to our deficiencies, but we were without our best player and they scored 2 very very very lucky goals. you lot need to give your heads a wobble.

Totally agree with you. Those two lucky goals doesn’t make them that much greater than us. We were close.

 

[RedMilo]

Jose moaning about the Herrera penalty incident. I'm sure he'll change his mind once he watches the replay.

Also "City always have decisions in their favour", also made one or two comments about Oliver. Will be surprised if the FA doesn't pick up on it.

Sorry Jose that never was a penalty - clutching at straws - well beaten..

 

[Jacky Quacky]

Ugh annoying game but just have to accept that city were better.

If we had kane today however I could easily see us getting a draw or even the win. In the summer we have to get a new striker to compete with Lukaku, kinda what Pep does with aguero.

Pogba really changes this team, get another like him in the summer and we will be laughing.

Jose must think about getting in new players because this season is done and dusted.

 

[Nik70]

We were set up correctly. City were not able to play like they usually like. They looked cagey. They looked frustrated. Time wasting from a team that many would think would blow us away shows how close we are.

The 3 goals were down to errors. Between team that are at the top of the table, the little errors are the difference. For us to concede on set pieces like that is disappointing. We had our chances. Martial was a bit quiet. Rashford looked up for it but didn’t get a lot of success other than that goal.

Lukaku is really going through a rough patch at the moment.

Zlatan coming on provided the presence that put some pressure on City. That chance at the end wouldn’t have happened without Zlatan on.

We just need to pick our heads up and keep fighting. City will drop points. We are still in early December. Long ways to go.

They're a lot better than us but that is the first time I've seen them waste time like that. I thought we played well today. With a bit more luck we could've drawn or won but we probably used up all our luck against Arsenal.

 

[Pyroblazer]

We are a much better team with Jose. We have managed 35 points already and after the utter shite that LVG and Moyes produced here I am happy with how things have gone this year. Don't get me wrong I am upset that we have lost this game, but there is feck all Mourinho can do when one of his players can't clear a cross and the side that he inherited is showing its limitations. Herrara, Mata, Smalling, Lingard, and Young wouldn't get near that city team, yet they are starting for us.

No one has any doubts about that, but is it good enough going forward? We are Manchester United, we should compete for the biggest titles and it doesn't look like we will get close with Jose, if we play like this in the big games and there have been more than enough games to make a judgment like this so far imo. This year it might be enough to beat the smaller teams more often than not and finish 2nd, but we clearly want to evolve further, aren't we? And I am not sure what Jose wants to do about it. Most likely he will try to spend big again to get us top attackers to do the job for him, but is that the best solution? I am not calling for his head, but there are clear issues we can talk about. Right now I don't think he looks like a top top manager, let alone the best in the world and probably not worth that huge amount of money we pay him, but yeah he is a huge improvement over Moyes and LvG, not a single doubt about it.
I can't really agree with the "Jose can't do anything about defenders doing stupid things to concede goals" line, like I mentioned already Jose puts us in those pressure situations all the time, our players are just on the backfoot all the time, you cant get away with it. If you are under consistent pressure, you will make mistakes, you will do silly mistakes, it's a shitty approach and we are only winning games if our players play flawless or De Gea pulls a 11/10 performance out of his ass again and that is clearly showing that our game plan is the wrong one. The City players make shitty mistakes too, but they are still winning because their game plan doesn't rely on their defenders and goalkeeper having a perfect day and their attackers creating and scoring out of nothing in every big game and that's how it should be.

 

[wolvored]

Even forgetting the result and City, why are we frightened to try and pass the ball? Hoofball in the general direction of Lukaku or Lingard is so league 2 football. Every time we had the ball the defence or deep lying midfield hoofed it up and 90% of the time gave possession back to City. We should have played 3 in the midfield to combat their 3. Oh well we can fight Chelsea for 2nd.

 

[Jim Beam]

Who is it?
I have him or her on ignore so just asking.

The red panther.

Looks like a dangerous nickname, so I'll have him on alert.

 

[pjaya]

It's simple..

Depay - £25 million
Mata - £37 million
Di Maria - £60 million
Schweinsteiger - £8 million
Schneiderlin -£27 million
Mkhitaryan - £35 million
Lukaku - £75 million

City are filling their first team with players like..

Silva - £24 million
Sane - £35 million
De Bruyne - £55 million
Jesus - £28 million

None of the above players from our list are showing/showed value for money. And we wonder why we're so far behind.

That’s mean pep know which player is right for him (granted not all is pep player) while Mou just simply spend on blindly?

 

[Silverman]

An absolute disaster of a day. Fuming.

 

[minoo-utd]

Why?

I'm afraid that the players mentality is a bit down after such defeat.

 

[Untied]

It's simple..

Depay - £25 million
Mata - £37 million
Di Maria - £60 million
Schweinsteiger - £8 million
Schneiderlin -£27 million
Mkhitaryan - £35 million
Lukaku - £75 million

City are filling their first team with players like..

Silva - £24 million
Sane - £35 million
De Bruyne - £55 million
Jesus - £28 million

None of the above players from our list are showing/showed value for money. And we wonder why we're so far behind.

Mangala - £32m
Bony - £28m
Nolito - £14m

Jovetic - £20m
Negredo - £20m

 

[Sultan]

As expected we were inferior in midfield to Silva and De Bruyne.

 

[DevilRed]

Despite only scoring two lucky goals they completely outplayed us and showed technical capabilities for a team that seems far off in a Mourinho team. Even their midget-in-chief, David Silva, tormented us physically.

They outplayed us in terms of possession. Yes.

We created the best four chances of the match. Two for them, which led to both goals. Also, the one that Rashford scored and the sitter that Lukaku missed.

Other than that, did citeh really endanger us from open play? Not really.

 

[vidic blood & sand]

So so bad, and Lukaku is one of the worst strikers we ever had. Never rated him, and the only positive i saw in buying him was that it pissed off Chelsea for like two minutes , guess who’s laughing now

Yeah I've been thinking back to try and remember a worst striker than Lukaku's been in the last six weeks. Names like Garry Birtles Terry Gibson , Peter Davenport etc
I even remember when we had the great Laurie Cunningham on the bench who we had on loan. The fact that Lukaku cost 75M is very very disturbing.

 

[Baby Groot]

Lukaku - time for bench

Nothing more to say

Give this man medal. or better yet get this man in contact with Mr. Mourinho.