[ayushreddevil9]

Tbh, West Ham had the better team and the better players.

They had a manager who bought like 8 players in the summer, have them play with some cohesion just within 2 months into his reign. But people claim some need time even after 2 seasons.

 

[Patrick220571]

To everyone blaming Jose and wanting him out ...
Wake up and smell the roses this is the worst United squad in over a decade .

A team of Parasites that don’t care who they play for as long as they get massive wages ...Pogba,Sanchez,Martial , Lukaku

Overrated individuals Rashford , Lingard, matic, shaw

Past there best Mata , Matic,

And were never good enough , young , Valencia,smalling,Jones, Lindelof pretty boy periera .

So go on Give the job to Zidane see what he can do with a squad like this and no Ronaldo,Bale ,Casimero,Isco modric, Varane , or Kroos in the toughest lge in the world

The squad is diabolical and the lunatics are attempting to run the asylum , the worst of which is Pogba the most overrated ( in his own mind ) player I have ever seen

The problem is, we haven't played City, Liverpool or Chelsea yet.

We have played Brighton, Wolves, Derby and West Ham and have looked lousy against them all. Our squad is far stronger than any of the sides we have faced this season (Tottenham apart).

Some of those players are far better than Mourinho is making them look at the moment.

As for the list of supposed parasites, all but one of those was signed by Mourinho, which would surely call his judgement into doubt?

 

[Sandikan]

Ridiculous thing is they wont sack him because they want it mathematically impossible to not make top 4 so they dont have to pay him off..but as a club if we dont make top 4 we are going to loose more money than it would cost to sack jose in the long run not being in that competition. Havent enjoyed watching united play football for years now. Thought LVG was bad for Jose is getting there now. :/

There won't be a clause saying he gets no pay off if we don't do xxx a thing.
Contracts don't work like that in football.

We'd most likely have to pay a year off whatever happens, or at least until he gets his next job if it's quicker than a year.

 

[FootyGirl88]

To everyone blaming Jose and wanting him out ...
Wake up and smell the roses this is the worst United squad in over a decade .

A team of Parasites that don’t care who they play for as long as they get massive wages ...Pogba,Sanchez,Martial , Lukaku

Overrated individuals Rashford , Lingard, matic, shaw

Past there best Mata , Matic,

And were never good enough , young , Valencia,smalling,Jones, Lindelof pretty boy periera .

So go on Give the job to Zidane see what he can do with a squad like this and no Ronaldo,Bale ,Casimero,Isco modric, Varane , or Kroos in the toughest lge in the world

The squad is diabolical and the lunatics are attempting to run the asylum , the worst of which is Pogba the most overrated ( in his own mind ) player I have ever seen

Nonsense.

 

[Sandikan]

The only explanation I have for today is that Jose set the team up to fail to prove a personal point the narcissistic git. Allowing Pogba and Martial to attack (which most players and fans wanted) but ensuring this could not work by ruining any chance of a supply to them by stacking the midfield with uncreative plodders and leaving out almost all our potentially creative players to link up the play to them. Hobbling the back line by sticking McT in there helped ensure we would also be a total mess at the back and would put us on the back foot. On 70 mins he subbed Martial and Pogba to ensure everyone got the point that they were the main failures today and he had been proved correct as ever. Disgraceful behaviour by our supposed Manager. The guy knows he's going so will spend the rest of his time here settling personal scores and trying to prove he has been the victim somehow. The board most get rid asap whatever the £££ to limit the damage and inevitable recovery time afterwards.

An interesting take, but you're missing one thing - to show he's "right as always", he'd have had to have seen some improvement doing things to clear up what the fans supposedly want.

And he didn't, we were no better after the subs than before.

 

[Sing you a song]

Shocking structure of this post aside, you think Derby and West Ham have better players than us then? Our squad is worse than these teams that played us off the park then is that what you are insinuating, that poor little Mourinho has been lumbered with non league level of players even though he bought a load of them himself.

I am aware that Jose bought some of the squad so must take a proportion of the blame .
I’m not saying we are worse than West Ham or Derby for Christ sake we are supposed to be Manchester United we should be compared to Barca,RM, Bayern,Juve,even City

Of the players I mentioned how many would these elite clubs be interested in .
I’m sure Jose will pay the ultimate price but if you think Zidane or anyone else for that matter could get a tune out of this bunch you are kidding yourself .
I apologise for the “ shocking structure of this post , thought it was a football forum for football fans not pompous pseudo English scholars

 

[Sing you a song]

Nonsense.

Thanks for the well structured response

 

[Mcking]

They had a manager who bought like 8 players in the summer, have them play with some cohesion just within 2 months into his reign. But people claim some need time even after 2 seasons.

We are heading only one way under Jose, there's no point in giving him more time. He brought us down to Westham's level and let them dominate the game. The result was inevitable.

 

[Mcking]

Thanks for the well structured response

It was actually a good response.

 

[FerociousCorgis]

i hate when people try and say oh do you think any of our players would be wanted by other top clubs. Just look at what klopp has done with liverpools midfield. Or what pep has done with certain players. Good managers adapt with what they have and accent their players strength. This isnt fifa or FM where you can just create a player with max stats in every single category.

 

[nyanza]

It was actually a good response.

Nonsense.

 

[AN17]

To everyone blaming Jose and wanting him out ...
Wake up and smell the roses this is the worst United squad in over a decade .

A team of Parasites that don’t care who they play for as long as they get massive wages ...Pogba,Sanchez,Martial , Lukaku

Overrated individuals Rashford , Lingard, matic, shaw

Past there best Mata , Matic,

And were never good enough , young , Valencia,smalling,Jones, Lindelof pretty boy periera .

So go on Give the job to Zidane see what he can do with a squad like this and no Ronaldo,Bale ,Casimero,Isco modric, Varane , or Kroos in the toughest lge in the world

The squad is diabolical and the lunatics are attempting to run the asylum , the worst of which is Pogba the most overrated ( in his own mind ) player I have ever seen

Go home. You are drunk.He had 3 fecking years to fix the squad. He brought in 10 players including the likes of Pogba, Sanchez and Lukaku whom you are calling worst this worst that. He could have easily bought another set of players if he wanted.

 

[Asger]

i hate when people try and say oh do you think any of our players would be wanted by other top clubs. Just look at what klopp has done with liverpools midfield. Or what pep has done with certain players. Good managers adapt with what they have and accent their players strength. This isnt fifa or FM where you can just create a player with max stats in every single category.

What have pep done to certain things players? All of them are/have been good players... He even spent more than us and he had much better squad than United when he arrived. City board is much willing for a success on he field than our awesome United board who only think about sponsors!

 

[Paxi]

It was actually a good response.

This.

 

[Sing you a song]

Go home. You are drunk.He had 3 fecking years to fix the squad. He brought in 10 players including the likes of Pogba, Sanchez and Lukaku whom you are calling worst this worst that. He could have easily bought another set of players if he wanted.

And it’s Jose’s fault that Pogba gives the ball away so often and can’t be bothered to run back when he loses the ball ?

 

[Fracture90]

And it’s Jose’s fault that Pogba gives the ball away so often and can’t be bothered to run back when he loses the ball ?

Well buddy Pogba is his star signing after all, besides he's had over 2 years to hone his talents and install the things he wanted in him, but he ultimately failed.

Which again is another thing Mourinho failed at, meaning he did a poor job profiling Pogba and that he made a mistake of horribly misjudging Pogba.

 

[AN17]

And it’s Jose’s fault that Pogba gives the ball away so often and can’t be bothered to run back when he loses the ball ?

It's the tactics and teamplay. You don't see him doing it "so often" with French NT. Yes there are times where he dilly dallies with the ball too much, but that is not the reason we are in this mess.

We have a defensive manager who seems to give zero input into attacking stratergy. 3 years into the tenure and we still don't have a particular system of play. It's just hoofball and dreadful slow buildup most of the time while Liverpool and City with managers who believe in a certain system transformed their teams tremendously.

 

[Asger]

It's the tactics and teamplay. You don't see him doing it "so often" with French NT. Yes there are times where he dilly dallies with the ball too much, but that is not the reason we are in this mess.

We have a defensive manager who seems to give zero input into attacking stratergy. 3 years into the tenure and we still don't have a particular system of play. It's just hoofball and dreadful slow buildup most of the time while Liverpool and City with managers who believe in a certain system transformed their teams tremendously.

This national shit is so boring.. some players just look better playing for there countries. Have more passion for it. It’s like saying why are not every player for Icelandic national team playing in the biggest leagues.

There are lot of players who have looked like world class for their countries and then play not good enough for their teams.

 

[kouroux]

To everyone blaming Jose and wanting him out ...
Wake up and smell the roses this is the worst United squad in over a decade .

A team of Parasites that don’t care who they play for as long as they get massive wages ...Pogba,Sanchez,Martial , Lukaku

Overrated individuals Rashford , Lingard, matic, shaw

Past there best Mata , Matic,

And were never good enough , young , Valencia,smalling,Jones, Lindelof pretty boy periera .

So go on Give the job to Zidane see what he can do with a squad like this and no Ronaldo,Bale ,Casimero,Isco modric, Varane , or Kroos in the toughest lge in the world

The squad is diabolical and the lunatics are attempting to run the asylum , the worst of which is Pogba the most overrated ( in his own mind ) player I have ever seen

Talking as if Mourinho has zero responsibilities when it comes to how bad thd squad has gotten. As if he inherited everything

 

[AN17]

This national shit is so boring.. some players just look better playing for there countries. Have more passion for it. It’s like saying why are not every player for Icelandic national team playing in the biggest leagues.

There are lot of players who have looked like world class for their countries and then play not good enough for their teams.

He looked great at Juve too.. The reason why we paid so much to bring him back.Not saying he is perfect or blameless. But the manager isn't getting the best out of him, just like he isn't getting the best out of the rest 9 signings that he made.

 

[el3mel]

It's the tactics and teamplay. You don't see him doing it "so often" with French NT. Yes there are times where he dilly dallies with the ball too much, but that is not the reason we are in this mess.

We have a defensive manager who seems to give zero input into attacking stratergy. 3 years into the tenure and we still don't have a particular system of play. It's just hoofball and dreadful slow buildup most of the time while Liverpool and City with managers who believe in a certain system transformed their teams tremendously.

Pogba has a good world cup, but as far as I'm concerned his performance for France was never applauded before it.

 

[Asger]

He looked great at Juve too.. The reason why we paid so much to bring him back.Not saying he is perfect or blameless. But the manager isn't getting the best out of him, just like he isn't getting the best out of the rest 9 signings that he made.

Yeah he looked good because Vidal and Pirlo let him look good in a one team league.

 

[scoi]

It seems the team won't perform for Jose. If that's the case it's pretty impossible to heal when Jose has such a stubborn and aloof attitude (I assume this isn't just a front when in presser).

You can't sack a squad so it's now a case of when not if

 

[AN17]

Pogba has a good world cup, but as far as I'm concerned his performance for France was never applauded before it.

Again, I was replying to another poster who was dirt talking everyone including Pogba for losing the ball, but acting like Mourinho has zero responsibility for the mess.

Yeah he looked good because Vidal and Pirlo let him look good in a one team league.

Maybe Mourinho shouldn't have gone for him then.

 

[el3mel]

Again, I was replying to another poster who was dirt talking everyone including Pogba for losing the ball, but acting like Mourinho has zero responsibility for the mess.

He indeed should be blamed for losing the ball in dangerous positions even if his manager is Moyes himself. I don't why the need to separate both.

 

[Mainoldo]

So what really happened with Sanchez today? Not even on the bench!

Mourinho thought it was a good time to prove a point to Martial FC supporters.

 

[AN17]

He indeed should be blamed for losing the ball in dangerous positions even if his manager is Moyes himself. I don't why the need to separate both.

Again I never said he shouldn't be blamed. Even conceded that he is a bit careless at times. But that is not the primary and most important reason for the mess that we are in. For some it's everyone's fault but Mourinho's.

 

[FootyGirl88]

Talking as if Mourinho has zero responsibilities when it comes to how bad thd squad has gotten. As if he inherited everything

That's exactly why I called it a nonsense post - Jose has had 3 years to fix the squad

 

[el3mel]

Again I never said he shouldn't be blamed. Even conceded that he is a bit careless at times. But that is not the primary and most important reason for the mess that we are in. For some it's everyone's fault but Mourinho's.

Don't disagree.

 

[Asger]

Again, I was replying to another poster who was dirt talking everyone including Pogba for losing the ball, but acting like Mourinho has zero responsibility for the mess.

Maybe Mourinho shouldn't have gone for him then.

Yeah and maybe it was a board signing like Di Maria and Falcao.

 

[Rajma]

Talking as if Mourinho has zero responsibilities when it comes to how bad thd squad has gotten. As if he inherited everything

Jose is a very good manipulator no wonder many fans are falling for his rhetoric. Thankfully majority are waking up now from the coma to see for what really he’s assembled.

 

[Mike Oxard]

Not all bad today. Score line flattered West Ham. I dare say that the Mourinho Out Brigade will be getting into a lather, but now is the time to dig in at stand by Jose. Yet another change will make a bad situation worse.

 

[Camilo]

If my manager showed this little faith in me I'd tell him to do one n all. fecking joke of a manager. Think you're inferior, then play like you're inferior.

 

[Bilbo]

The fact is that we've played 3 teams this week that we should be beating. One newly promoted, and the other two with new managers and many new players (one manager a rookie). Not only did we fail to beat amy of them, they all played better football than us.

It's unacceptable. Something is rotten at the club. We've spent a fortune to get us to this point. Jose has to go and go now, but nobody should fool themselves that it's going to be easy for any other manager. There are players here that are at least as culpable in this as Mourinho. The whole thing stinks

 

[Mainoldo]

Yeah and maybe it was a board signing like Di Maria and Falcao.

Was Bailly, Lindelöf, Mkhitaryan, Lukaku, Fred, Matic and Sanchez board signings too? Cause they’ve all been sh8t too. Maybe he only wanted Zlatan from all the players purchased.

 

[Ban]

That's exactly why I called it a nonsense post - Jose has had 3 years to fix the squad

True x

 

[68Guns]

Not all bad today. Score line flattered West Ham. I dare say that the Mourinho Out Brigade will be getting into a lather, but now is the time to dig in at stand by Jose. Yet another change will make a bad situation worse.

You must have watched different game than me fella. Jose hasn't got a clue and it's plain to see, he's been battered Guardiola and Conte and lives on past glories which are of no interest to United fans. Jose out now before we are in a relegation dog fight.

 

[Asger]

Was Bailly, Lindelöf, Mkhitaryan, Lukaku, Fred, Matic and Sanchez board signings too? Cause they’ve all been sh8t too. Maybe he only wanted Zlatan from all the players purchased.

I think Sanchez was board signing but the rest was his.

 

[Moonred]

Not all bad today. Score line flattered West Ham. I dare say that the Mourinho Out Brigade will be getting into a lather, but now is the time to dig in at stand by Jose. Yet another change will make a bad situation worse.

Who or what are you?

 

[Devil may care]

I didn't see the game live but I managed to avoid the result all day before seeing the game this evening, why did we suddenly use 3-5-2? and why play Matic and Fellaini when we are using 3 CB's? and why play McTominay over Bailly in a position he's never played at senior level before? Such a weird selection in general and then the performance was atrocious.

I haven't read the player threads and I am sure Pogba, Martial, Lukaku, Lindelof etc....will be getting shitcanned by the usual suspects but it should be pretty obvious that the team is done with Mourinho, the morale in that side looked rock bottom to me, very much like the games in season 3 at Chelsea the second time around.