Bilic absolutely killing it on PL Tonight. Been great and agree with most of what he has said.
PL W FA Premier League
Manchester United 2:1 West Ham United
Post-match discussion
Sat, 13 April 2019
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) is joined by CEO Duncan Drasdo and Financial Director Andy Green from the Manchester United Supporters Trust for a special episode on all things behind the scenes at Old Trafford including a brief history of MUST and their aims today, views on INEOS and Sir Jim Ratcliffe so far, and the Old Trafford regeneration.
The difference is that under Mourinho, Pogba wouldn’t be here, Fellaini, Matic would have been in midfield, Lukaku up front and we would have been beaten just as we did at their place
Agreed.
He's put in good crosses in other games but I can't think of one great delivery today. Rom was awful today and rightly subbed.
We should have been beaten tonight. You think we would have played better?
Mourinho and Ole may not be the same type of managers, but we also can't say Ole is a better manager than Mourinho can we? I'm totally with you on the players being at fault, I personally think the majority of our players are utter dog shit and not fit for purpose. But I can't reasonably say that Ole is blameless either.
As awful as we were.
That really could be a huge 3 points.
Must be demoralising for the top 4 rivals to see us play that shit and still somehow win.
That really could be a huge 3 points.
Must be demoralising for the top 4 rivals to see us play that shit and still somehow win.
Under Mou we wouldn’t have won! I’m convinced.
You can improve from winning games when you know you might have got away with it. You can’t when you’re already beaten before you step on the pitch! Under Mou it was the latter
Fatigue from the Barca game 2 days ago is why.
Look on the bright side...if you don't want Liverpool to win the league then there is no hope of United stopping City!
Check Liverpool in their last few games! All of a sudden that’s character,desire and passion. Ignoring the good fortune
We need to rest players against Barcelona to have any chance of overturning Everton
When Martials bad, he's absolutely atrocious. Today and watford he's looked like a sunday league player. Lingard and Mata nearly as bad.
We’ve been an absolute disgrace at home this season.
I'd be very interested to know what the players were saying to each other when they were gathered in that huddle after Pogba's 2nd penalty
You’re argument is that it would have been a different set of shit players so we should be thankful?
He put good balls in. There was just nobody in the box hunting them.
Well, what can you say?
Ole obviously needed to rotate some of the players after Barca, but with the squad we have it's resulted in this. Too many players just strolling around (that's you Martial and Pogba), Dalot showing why Young, of all people, is still first choice right back, Mata and especially Lingard invisible, Rojo just not good enough, strikers just standing still waiting for the ball instead of going to it. No wonder Ole looked pi55ed at the end. This squad needs major surgery.
DDG - 5
Dalot (RB) - 3, LB - 5
Smalling - 6
Jones - 5.5
Rojo - 3
Fred - 7
Pogba - 5 (just for the two pens)
Mata - 3
Lingard - 2
Lukaku - 5
Martial - 4
Rashford - 6.5
Ole obviously needed to rotate some of the players after Barca, but with the squad we have it's resulted in this. Too many players just strolling around (that's you Martial and Pogba), Dalot showing why Young, of all people, is still first choice right back, Mata and especially Lingard invisible, Rojo just not good enough, strikers just standing still waiting for the ball instead of going to it. No wonder Ole looked pi55ed at the end. This squad needs major surgery.
DDG - 5
Dalot (RB) - 3, LB - 5
Smalling - 6
Jones - 5.5
Rojo - 3
Fred - 7
Pogba - 5 (just for the two pens)
Mata - 3
Lingard - 2
Lukaku - 5
Martial - 4
Rashford - 6.5
I've been hammered before and told I have a vendetta against him because I believe he's so average.
Must see things very differently then as I thought he was pretty decent. Easily 1 of our best players today but again not really saying much.
Really interesting how we all see the game differently. We'll agree to disagree on this one man.
The thing that bugged me today the most and in most games because it seems to be a recurring issue and that’s the desiscions and the speed we make them at. Space will open and a player is moving and for some reason it seems to take an age for the player with the ball to play the pass and by the time they do the opportunity is gone. Or just choosing the wrong option like Mata today. I just don’t see how we can have such talented players and they keep making poor desicion after poor decision.
Some of this has to come down to what is happening in training surely. I just think a lot of work needs to be done on what our players need to be doing when they don’t have the ball. You watch any top team and the movement is deliberate and planned. We just don’t seem to know where or what we should be doing a long with players taking liberties with the ball.
Some of this has to come down to what is happening in training surely. I just think a lot of work needs to be done on what our players need to be doing when they don’t have the ball. You watch any top team and the movement is deliberate and planned. We just don’t seem to know where or what we should be doing a long with players taking liberties with the ball.
Maybe because I was a striker so he gets in the strikers Union of protection
The worry is that yes he might get them fitter, be able to run faster and for longer, but you cannot always make a players brain work quicker.
I didn't mean you, it's been said every week.
We'll start dropping points if our performances don't pick up.
That was awful.
Might be one of the worst seasons of performances at Old Trafford I've seen.
That was awful.
Might be one of the worst seasons of performances at Old Trafford I've seen.
True but a lot of what these top teams do is just pattern recognition. Maybe we train this sort of thing a lot and players just don’t take it on but there are scenarios where we have a 3rd runner going and pass doesn’t go to them or other times people just standing still not offering or creating space. Fred today was great at offering himself up or creating passing lanes or offering himself but again players not giving him the ball or not recognising he was in a great position to keep play moving or do damage.
Just think this aspect really needs to improve drastically.
Haha. No problem. Just absolutely pissed off with this.
If you can't be good be lucky as the saying goes, but the way we are playing I cannot see us getting enough points from the 5 remaining games to finish above Spurs or Chelsea, we look so lost in attack and were generally sloppy all over the pitch today.
Well, I have a positive? The players will be completely fresh for the next game...
They’re not good balls if there’s no one in the box. Should be waiting for them to get in or laying it off
Couldn't care less about the performance tbh, I've seen Arsenal, Spurs and Chelsea fluke wins all season and yet all I read on here is how crap we are, it was only a couple of weeks ago Chelsea were needed an offside goal to completely change a game that were massively second best in against sure to be relegated Cardiff
Only thing that matters is the 3 points
Only thing that matters is the 3 points
Let's just get to the end of the season with top 4. We're just sleepwalking to the end and at this point I'm only excited to see the rebuilding job that will take place for the summer.
That’s not what I said though. There were people in the box. They just weren’t doing anything.
It was a shockingly shit game from us.
Agreed. We wont win the champions league, we are no where near good enough. All efforts need to go towards getting 4th, mass buying and shifting the the dross players we have. That will not happen if we do not get 4th.
We didn't play great but I don't think West Ham were any better. We created more chances but couldn't hit the broad side of a barn. I'm also trying to figure out how we can blame Young for their goal because he has to be at fault some how. Or I suppose we could just blame Jones as he seems to be a scapegoat whenever he plays too. But whatever you do, don't blame De Gea as he gets a free pass every game. So I suppose we should just blame Rojo as he had his back turned to Anderson the entire time. In the end, I will take the 3 points. Next...
Man of the Match
Runners-up
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27%
Fred
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14%
David de Gea
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9%
Phil Jones
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6%
Chris Smalling
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1%
Anthony Martial
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1%
Marcus Rashford
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1%
Diogo Dalot
Player Ratings
Total Average Rating
Highest Rated Player
Lowest Rated Player
Compiled from 363 ratings.
Score Predictions
339,18,22
- Man Utd win
- West Ham win
- Draw
Detailed Results
- 32% Man Utd 2:0 West Ham
- 19% Man Utd 2:1 West Ham
- 12% Man Utd 3:0 West Ham
- 9% Man Utd 3:1 West Ham
- 7% Man Utd 1:0 West Ham
- 5% Man Utd 4:0 West Ham
- 3% Man Utd 0:0 West Ham
- 3% Man Utd 5:0 West Ham
- 3% Man Utd 1:1 West Ham
- 2% Man Utd 1:2 West Ham
- 1% Man Utd 4:1 West Ham
- 1% Man Utd 0:2 West Ham
- 1% Man Utd 1:3 West Ham
- 1% Man Utd 5:4 West Ham
- 1% Man Utd 3:2 West Ham
- 1% Man Utd 0:5 West Ham
- 1% Man Utd 5:1 West Ham
- 0% Man Utd 0:3 West Ham
- 0% Man Utd 2:3 West Ham
- 0% Man Utd 5:2 West Ham
Match Stats
- Man Utd
- West Ham
- Possession
- 42% 58%
- Shots
- 14 18
- Shots on Target
- 4 4
- Corners
- 3 11
- Fouls
- 14 5
Referee
Graham Scott
Man Utd Lineup
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replaced by Andreas Pereira
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replaced by Marcus Rashford
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replaced by Mason Greenwood
