Qatar WC | Fans and Atmosphere Watch
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Ah. Ok. Well there you go. Having previously said I don’t understand why they would support a former coloniser, you can’t knock their enthusiasm!
I'm willing to think there may be an element of choreography/inauthenticity going on out there
This is hilarious, but also depressing in it's degree of fakeness. What used to be a footballing party over four weeks, where people get to support their nation, has turned into a carefully choreographed charade to paint a positive picture of a backwards, autocratic, oil state. I can only hope that the football will actually be good, because everything surrounding it is absolute crap.
Yes it happens every world cup. In some parts in India, arguably there's more support for international teams than a European club. I'll probably dig some more for you later but here's a tweet with some pics from a Maradona visit to the state of Kerala. Interestingly most Indian expats in the gulf countries are also from this state, and so you'll see loads of them in the matches.
The goalposts have been changed continually since Qatar was awarded the World Cup. Its happening in winter when it was initially bid for a summer tournament. Why wouldn't the Qataris feel like they can keep changing terms?
I hope FIFA gets sued by Budweiser. It might learn them.
There may be different opinions about whether some of these fans are real, but here’s one true football fan looking forward to it.
I posted this a couple of days ago, it's indicitive of Bangladesh which is split 50/50 Argentina Brazil.
Just Google Bangladesh and world cup, it's been a phenomenon since the eighties.
Nice, not surprising, West Bengal is the same during this time I think
Honduras dedicated their first goal at the 2014 WC to Bangladesh because of the support they recieved from bangladesh
Honduras then showed the following cricket world cup on their national TV so the people could support Bangladesh. It's very heart warming."Southgate is our super coach"
This is going to be the fyre fest equivalent for the world cup. Maybe not quite as disastrous in it's actuality - although I'm sure the families of construction workers will disagree - but certainly in it's drop-off from the expected norms of a world cup.
Qatar simply doesn't have the experience, the infrastructure or the culture currently of hosting what are effectively international festivals/celebrations.
I don't want to get stuck on some of the topics floated - I like that an Arab country is hosting the event, I don't particularly mind the mid-season break for hosting, and I think that it's generally a positive step to look for new hosts/expand the game. That said, Qatar is simply not the place to achieve any of the above.
Turkey, UAE, Egypt - even Saudi! - would have been better options.
Qatar simply doesn't have the experience, the infrastructure or the culture currently of hosting what are effectively international festivals/celebrations.
I don't want to get stuck on some of the topics floated - I like that an Arab country is hosting the event, I don't particularly mind the mid-season break for hosting, and I think that it's generally a positive step to look for new hosts/expand the game. That said, Qatar is simply not the place to achieve any of the above.
Turkey, UAE, Egypt - even Saudi! - would have been better options.
Let's hope Budweiser takes them to the cleaners.
Agreed. Qatar lacks the experience its neighbour has (UAE) in dealing with this amount of attention. They’ve already fallen into some very basic traps, almost self-sabotage. This should have been a pan-Gulf WC, but they made up with each other way too late in the day.
I wonder if they can get the lawyers to argue a technicality about Budweiser not actually being beer? On the basis it doesn’t taste like one.
Coming from one of the most football crazy places in India, I can say that, yes, this is definitely a thing here. Most people have an adopted team. Brazil and Argentina have the most number of fans. The only thing I can see in my social media is people getting ready to welcome the World Cup. It is always like that during the WC. Club football doesn't get as crazy. Look at the visuals in the link.
https://www.indiatoday.in/visualsto...p-fever-grips-kerala-kolkata-13273-16-11-2022
They just won’t pay. Who would make them?
Also Jim White on TalkSport is such a company man. No company or owner can do any wrong.
Yeah, but that's the thing.
Most of these "fans" in Qatar were born and raised in India.
Kinda weird to see them cheering for England, even doing parades with songs and chants.
A bit bizarre to say the least
Absolute shambles, this kind of stuff is sorted a year in advance.
Lets see will they twist their arm in Qatar like in Brazil
Not to get overly political but a very good man in my opinion.
From the Sky article about beer being banned in stadiums:
Things are going to get absolutely hilarious once they start trying to enforce this!
Things are going to get absolutely hilarious once they start trying to enforce this!
Think Budweiser will be contacting their legal representatives if beer can't be purchased within a 2 mile radius of the ground as I expect.
Sounds like a pretty clear misrepresentation from authorities.
This WC will be great, I like how recently FIFA said venues have to be LGTB+ friendly and how the workers have to have the highest safety (building stadiums) basically saying Qatar wont happen again
My colleague is Indian (Seikh). He laughed this off and said there's no way Indians as he knew would be travelling over Qatar in their hundreds to support another nation. He's convinced those fans we have seen over in Qatar are paid actors - but who knows?
Hearsay? @Regulus Arcturus Black
If they had their own decent national team things might not be like this. I think for Indians, they just want a team to cheer - club, country or whatever, seems to make no difference which. For us, completely bizarre of course.
In my experience Indians tend to be a lot less bitter or hung up about the legacy of their colonial history compared with us. At our end it’s likely driven by the unresolved aspects of our experience. At their end, here’s one explanation from a fairly prominent source (at 1:50):
They're not serving hipster hoppy ale made by a man with a long beard either
Jesus. Do you drink Budweiser?! That’s a way more shocking revelation than anything in the Ronaldo thread.
haha.
Erm… if he’d heard from someone (someone in the know for example), that those fans are paid actors, yes.
If he’s just coming up with a theory, no.
So say your colleague said:
”My Indian friend is an actor and he was offered by an agency to come to Qatar as a fan, as a job, apparently there’s loads doing it”.
That’d be a perfect example of hearsay.
I don't drink it but I hate beer elitism, most commercial beers taste fine. The only commercial beer I think is truly awful is Coors.
There’s a link above with a Guardian article where Indian fans who’ve travelled over (and are supporting England) are interviewed.
But hey, because some English bloke in an office, who happens to be Sikh, announced that they’re paid actors, who are we to argue?!
Budweiser is an insult to beers though. Completely tasteless.
Not all commercial beers are pish. Heineken is ok. I can’t think of any nice American commercial beers, mind you.
If I were Indian and well off enough, I’d be going to a WC on my doorstep (just a short 3h flight away) that’s for sure, and being from a nation with no noteworthy National team, I’d absolutely be adopting one to make it more fun.
If planeloads of Indian football fans were travelling to Qatar to support teams at the world cup, you would see a proportionate scattering of women and children among them.
In all the videos we've seen, it is 99.99999% men. A similar ration to that of the migrant workers who live and work in Qatar.
In all the videos we've seen, it is 99.99999% men. A similar ration to that of the migrant workers who live and work in Qatar.