Question Time & This Week

Team America in Cairo springs to mind.
 

Who cares about their race, gender etc, what matters is the strength of their arguments and character. This is coming from a mixed race person btw.

To be honest I think it does matter. Of course the strength of arguments and character matter most, but presumably there are other black people other than Abbot and Umanna who are intelligent and articulate, so the two are not mutually exclusive.
 
To be honest I think it does matter. Of course the strength of arguments and character matter most, but presumably there are other black people other than Abbot and Umanna who are intelligent and articulate, so the two are not mutually exclusive.
No it doesn't matter, it only matters to people who judge on race. Not implying you do, but that's how I see it.
 
I'm pleased to see him too. He's a character who doesn't slavishly follow the party line. I generally disagree with him, but he's got something.

I don't agree with his views on Europe, but he's clearly a very clever bloke and puts his points across very well and extremely respectfully.
 
And the 'horrible twat' box.
 
Nick Boles has annoyed me in the past, most recently as planning minister, but i think he's handled this thorny topic of the junior doctors dispute fairly well.
 
Kelvin MacKenzie is on QT tonight, so that ticks the outspoken pundit box.

Why is he still invited on things like this? What relevance does he have to anything these days? Even the angry backward reactionary set have new heroes these days. Who is it that's clamouring to see this 80s hate figure and melting arsehole exactly? It's baffling.
 
Why is he still invited on things like this? What relevance does he have to anything these days? Even the angry backward reactionary set have their new heroes these days. Who is it that's clamouring to see him exactly? It's baffling.

I reckon he's performing the Richard Madeley role: cheap to hire at five minutes' notice, and desperate to be on tv/be relevant again.
 
Why is he still invited on things like this? What relevance does he have to anything these days? Even the angry backward reactionary set have their new heroes these days. Who is it that's clamouring to see him exactly? It's baffling.

I don't know, it's the first i've seen or heard of him in years.
 
You couldn't make it up. Ukip guy just said the floods were due to EU regulations on dredging.

I think it was due to rain.
 
Obviously, but it didn't rain as much before the muslims came.

Or those ohnosexicals that UKIP are always on about.
 
The longest lasting peace movement indeed, we'll just ignore the existence of NATO then.

And this spurious tourism argument is debunked each and every year by the millions of Brits who travel to places outside of the Eurozone (and vice versa).

Did Kat Fletcher intimate that she Labour's policy of mass, unmanaged immigration was wrong? I do not think her boss would agree with that.
 
The Tories do love that stat about the number of council properties built, partly for how galling it must be for Labour voters to hear it repeated over and over.

Police should not be routinely armed IMO, although the proportion of armed officers ought to be increased in jurisdictions other than the Met's (or some of theirs might need to be sent on detached service to other constabularies compensate).
 
I can't understand why there isn't more of a rebellion against the housing situation. For my generation it was possible for ordinary workers on less than average wages to buy a house, if they made that a priority. Now you need to be well above average to stand a chance, and in London you really need to be on twice the average wage, and probably two of you as well.
edit: This shouldn't really get worse though, should it? We've got richer as a nation for decades, yet strangely poorer for so many.
 
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I can't understand why there isn't more of a rebellion against the housing situation...

Because people are encouraged to be furious about the colour of Corbyn's socks rather than the price of houses being equivalent to that of a palace owned by Earth, Wind and Fire.
 
I can't understand why there isn't more of a rebellion against the housing situation. For my generation it was possible for ordinary workers on less than average wages to buy a house if, they made that a priority. Now you need to be well above average to stand a chance, and in London you really need to be on twice the average wage, and probably two of you as well.
edit: This shouldn't really get worse though, should it? We've got richer as a nation for decades, yet strangely poorer for so many.

The big issue not addressed for decades is allowing foreign investors to buy up property in London, I read recently that 75% of new builds are bought up by foreign buyers. Not convinced on the accuracy of that, but it's clearly a massive issue, the problem is that house price inflation and how wealthy home owners feel has powered the economy for decades now. Show me a prime minister who is going to pull the handbrake on the economy.
 
The longest lasting peace movement indeed, we'll just ignore the existence of NATO then.
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I'm not sure of the context but are you referring to the largest group of militaries in the world, an essential part of the MAD cold war duo, as a peace movement?
 
Peace movement was obviously the wrong term, but it's notable how traditional enemies like France, Germany, and Britain, who would fight each other with horrible consequences every thirty years or so now live together in peace.
 
I can't understand why there isn't more of a rebellion against the housing situation. For my generation it was possible for ordinary workers on less than average wages to buy a house, if they made that a priority. Now you need to be well above average to stand a chance, and in London you really need to be on twice the average wage, and probably two of you as well.
edit: This shouldn't really get worse though, should it? We've got richer as a nation for decades, yet strangely poorer for so many.

It is a more complicated picture than that which is often portrayed in the media, and a London audience (as was present last night) is not particularly representative of the difficulties faced in other parts of the country.

We need to consider changes to what and how we build, something which @Silva has touched upon in the past i believe.


Because people are encouraged to be furious about the colour of Corbyn's socks

Were Corbo to examine the state of his own housing policy for long enough, he might think it a good idea for the electorate to be so distracted..


I'm not sure of the context but are you referring to the largest group of militaries in the world, an essential part of the MAD cold war duo, as a peace movement?

I was responding to a pro-EU member of the Question Time audience, who trotted out the often used, but equally dubious claim that the European Union was responsible for security and stability across the continent these past sixty years.
 
Yeah there isn't enough space for everyone to have a massive house with a nice garden. Nor is there need for it when average family is smaller than it used to be. And people who need them are struggling to find affordable 1 bedroom spaces. I'd say adopt the dutch model, tall narrows builds are the way forward.
 
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What's peoples' views of the junior doctor contract and the strikes then?

It affects me so I'm naturally going to see on one-side of the debate, so just wondering what the majority of the public believe. I was surprised how the vast majority of the public actually supported the strikes to be honest, was a pleasant surprise.
 
What's peoples' views of the junior doctor contract and the strikes then?

It affects me so I'm naturally going to see on one-side of the debate, so just wondering what the majority of the public believe. I was surprised how the vast majority of the public actually supported the strikes to be honest, was a pleasant surprise.

I think people realise that, whilst the whole 7 day NHS idea is inherently not a bad one, the planning and thought that the tories put behind it has been severely lacking. It was a promise that sounded good that they could not reasonably see through and so people are rightly siding with the doctors.
 
The DUP politician is having a terrible time. Hard to watch.:lol:
 
What's peoples' views of the junior doctor contract and the strikes then?

It affects me so I'm naturally going to see on one-side of the debate, so just wondering what the majority of the public believe. I was surprised how the vast majority of the public actually supported the strikes to be honest, was a pleasant surprise.

From an equal treatment point of view I'm waiting for the police to start riding over the doctors with horses and for the govt's lawyers to start sequestration of the assets of the BMA.
 
And there are many millions in Lebanon, Turkey and Jordan, what about them?
 
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We could still cooperate with our European neighbours on science.

Angus Robertson is right about Cameron's attempted magic act.

There is far more at stake here than the current narrative surrounding immigration.

We can't do nationalisation, upgrading of local railways and increase capacity without an increase in funding (aka taxes).
 
At the time I dismissed the remarks as foolish and naïve, yet Labour's Jess Phillips has created somewhat of a storm for herself in her native Birmingham today:

"There is violence against women and girls that you are describing, a very similar situation to what happened in Cologne could be described on Broad Street in Birmingham every week where women are baited and heckled."

"We have to attack what we perceive as being patriarchal culture coming into any culture that isn’t patriarchal and making sure we tell people not to be like that."

"But we should be careful in this country before we rest on our laurels when two women are murdered every week."

She is no sycophant of Corbyn's mind you, and her...outspoken language is likely to see her become a fixture on QT in the future.
 
Yeah, she did a good job of telling people not to visit Birmingham.

Visit Preston instead. The English Defence League have said they will march in Preston to protest against alleged muslim no-go areas.
This is what one of my old colleagues thought:

 
Should be lively with Farage accusing the audience of being to left leaning.
 
Nuttall's on, no idea where Farage is.

Edit: Apparently he got stuck on traffic.:lol: