Do you think most are assuming we are going to spend 160mil on two strikers?
If they are they are in cuckoo land
Only if you take those prices at face value. I guess we will see.
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Only if you take those prices at face value. I guess we will see.
I think we're pretty much in agreement. Our starting LW and RW are prone to shooting, which is fine as long as our starting striker links up well with them. As much as it pains me to say it, that's what made the Salah-Firmino-Mane frontline so effective. That's one of the reasons why I'd prefer Kane over Osimhen as he's a creator as well as a goalscorer. I don't know enough about Hojlund to comment on what his linkup play is like, but I assume Ten Hag knows what he's doing.
Rashford has the same amount of assists as Grealish this season and Rashford doesn’t have Haaland to pass to.
Another way of looking at it is expected assists per 90, where Grealish is in the 88th percentile and Rashford 13th.
A CM ,CB and Erik recently said he wants De gea to stay but he may not be number one tells its own story so that is how I see money being spent plus one striker.
Obviously nothing is impossible especially under new ownership but some scenarios are more likely than others.
Yeah it's a pretty unfortunate name for him. You can see it coming if we do sign him.
True enough.
Why would you not look at actual assists though? Surely your stat has nothing behind it when Rashford has 30 goals behind his assist number?
Rashford just shoots more because he’s an inside forward and he’s better at it than Jack. The assists record just shows Rashford doesn’t lag behind in those responsibilities as well. We just need a striker who can make a fecking run in the box, show a little bit of movement to turn a so-so ball into a goal.
Four actually: Rashford, Martial, Hojlund and I can't name the fourth. I think it will be tough to get anyone to take Martial off our hands, and we could go with these four for this season, and try again for Kane on a free next summer when Martial's contract is up. Then, when Kane is being phased out, we go for another young striker, maybe Ferguson, Sesko, etc. Slightly underwhelming if we don't get Kane + Hojlund this season (and Martial out), but I wouldn't be shocked if Levy holds out...
Before anyone tells me that Rashford and unnamed are wingers not CF, ETH has the dutch habit of total football, getting players to be flexible, as per his use of Shaw as a LB / LCB.
Bruno has only 8 assists which is less than Maddison. Who is the better creator?
I’m not getting your point.
I’m not saying Rashford is a better creator than Jack, I’m saying he doesn’t lag behind in that department.
Your stat just tells me Maddison is very creative himself which I’m sure everybody knows.
My bad, apologies. I misread your post!
I like him but I don’t like the price. Not for what we would need him for next season. Let’s hope we negotiate a Martial type deal if he do pursue this.
How does the potential/price combination of Hojlund compare to Evan Ferguson?
Quoting this so more people see it.
I think Hojlund would be a fantastic signing, and he has all the tools be a great striker.
Him, along with Costa from Porto would be my muppet signings of the summer, get Min-Jae, and a solid CM like Rice and it would be a great transfer window strengthening the spine of the team.
Yes please. Loving the early signs of this window. Hojlund would be a fantastic signing, only 20, at a very good level already, and looks absolutely perfect for the prem. Think he has it in him to be a complete striker, nice technique, powerful runner, and has the frame to develop aerial ability which often comes with age.
It's a little hard to answer that since we have no idea what either player would cost
Evan Ferguson isn't obtainable this summer so you'd have to pay a PL feck off price which is significantly higher than anywhere else. So you're talking over 80m. Hojlund is probably max 50m.
We obviously wouldn't have signed a young Harry Kane then.Who pissed on your cornflakes this morning? You're on a rampage across the threads.
Why does this logic not work for this signing? If Ten Hag (a top manager) wants him, he must rate him.
I've just watched a youtube compilation of his goals and skills from this season. The lad looks rapid, skilful and can finish.
He scored the goals in the 6 yard box that we don't seem to hardly ever score.
I'm all aboard. Especially as he's a United fan and would jump at the chance.
He scored the goals in the 6 yard box that we don't seem to hardly ever score.
I'm all aboard. Especially as he's a United fan and would jump at the chance.
Precisely, myself included after watching him play for Millwall!
Think people don't realise that Haaland is a freak of nature. Not all strikers develop at the same rate.
very goodSo in theory it would be this guy plus an experienced striker?
Do we really need two strikers? Especially if you know who comes back into the fold.
Do we really need two strikers? Especially if you know who comes back into the fold.
One of the big plusses for him is his mix of technique, being able to play with his back to goal, ability to move with the ball, and his the movement off the ball. He has a mix of technique and speed and physical prowess that it's just perfect for a striker. Haven't watched many full games of his but the little bits and the videos I've seen just look to me like a potential elite, complete striker who doesn't have a specific weakness. A back of my mind problem I had with Osimhen was he was more a battering ram poacher, didn't contribute much in build up or with his back to goal but had just pure goalscorer written all over him. Hojlund looks more rounded like a Lewandowski or a Benzema (not as good of course,bbut then again, Lewandowski was doing nothing at that age).
Something about this player that makes me want him at United,great age,fast and knows where the goal is will be a future star imo need to pick him up before his price doubles etc.
And he was far from the only top center forward to have a somewhat underwhelming scoring record at that age.
- Højlund (Serie A and Coppa Italia): 9 goals in 1800 minutes
- Eto'o (La Liga and Copa del Rey): 13 goals in 2350 minutes
- Suárez (Eredivisie and KNVB Cup): 11 goals in 2500 minutes
- Ibrahimović (Eredivisie and KNVB Cup): 7 goals in 1400 minutes
- Cavani (Serie A and Coppa Italia): 5 goals in 1900 minutes
Either sign someone who managed to score 20+ goals a season from top European leagues or a talent who scored stupid amount of goals from lower tier leagues. He is someone who is somewhat in between. We need goals, if we sign him he cant be the only CF.
Martial needs to go, so yes two strikers are needed. You know who had issues at centre forward when times were good, even in the miniscule chance he plays again it would be on the right. That would provide a goal output on the right if Marcus isn't available on the left.
That being said, there are no senior strikers on the market, so I have no idea what the thinking is. Maybe Thuram on a free?
If we can sign him and another class striker then that would be great business. Him on his own isn’t enough.
Absolutely we need two strikers, look at City with Haaland and Alvarez. Rashford plays his best football cutting in from the left, and Voldermoort played on the right of a front three most of the time if my memory serves correctly. I don't remember seeing him excel as a striker
So you're looking at Rasford / Garnacho - New Striker(s) - Voldermoort / Antony / Sancho which is an insane array of talent
his hold up play is already better than Martial and Wout.....instant upgrade
his movement is better than Martial and Wout....instant upgrade
only negative is price and how that impacts getting a #1 striker and another top CM.
his movement is better than Martial and Wout....instant upgrade
only negative is price and how that impacts getting a #1 striker and another top CM.
We always had at least 2 strikers under fergie. Obviously that’s because we played 2 upfront. But I think 2 ST is essential so we can rotate depending on form and injuries. Plus they’ll spur each other on to be better. And I think if the person your talking about comes back then he’s better on RW.
i think next season would be a good one for a development striker in our season, if we want to challenge for the title we’d want to be spending 200mil+
it’s a pity we don’t have a half decent experienced striker to nurture someone like Hojlund
realistically can’t see it happening but signing two strikers would be brilliant
Is he a goalscorer? Only 8 league goals for Atalanta this season.
kids 20...wouldn't say it's terrible
Per 90 stats show a 1 in 2 striker already though, 87th percentile in non pen xG this season in Serie A, got 5 goals in 2 Denmark games this year in his first 2 starts, only recently turned 20. Strikers at his age like him progress quickly. Copenhagen to Sturm Graz to Atalanta and now possibly to United over like 2 years. And just the eye test shows a potential complete, elite striker. Left footed too, dunno why but I always feel like they have a higher top level.
Just under 1 in 2 per 90 minutes despite just turning 20 in Feb. Scored 5 in his first 2 Denmark starts this year. He's shown he can score with both feet and with his head already.
Ha, I came here to make a Rasmus joke and you made a better one then I could think of.
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