You cannot compare a man who threw is career away to Ryan Giggs. Only Charlton can be compared to him.
RAWK goes into Meltdown 2010/2011
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You cannot compare a man who threw is career away to Ryan Giggs. Only Charlton can be compared to him.
Wasnt sure where to put this............whatever about the management issue at Liverpool the back room situation has long being rumoured to be problem aswell....
Although this sounds like someone from the CAF wrote it!!!
LIVERPOOL'S flops have been savaged by a blistering blast from one of the Kop's former coaches.
Frenchman Jacques Crevoisier, who spent two years at Anfield under Gerard Houllier, slammed the reign of Rafa Benitez - insisting the Spaniard's signings and policies have brought the club to its knees.
If that was not enough, Crevoisier also branded former owners Tom Hicks and George Gillett "a***holes" who treated Liverpool as their own private bank.
The educated 62-year-old, a qualified psychologist, now assists Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger with his squad. He has previously worked with Tottenham.
In an interview with French football magazine So Foot, Crevoisier said: "Liverpool's current failure is linked to three people - Benitez, Hicks and Gillett.
"Benitez is an excellent coach but he recruited over 60 players during his time in charge. And, apart from Fernando Torres, Javier Mascherano and Xabi Alonso, his signings across five years were pitiful.
"Benitez brought in a staggering amount of players and at some cost. He is a very good tactician but a very bad recruiter.
"His communications were weak and his links with the players did not work. When the team lost it would be the players' fault and, when they won, it would be thanks to him.
"People who were at the club at the same time as him told me he was a megalomaniac, with people having to pledge allegiance to his way of doing things.
"The three players I've mentioned don't require an army of scouts to tell you they are very good, while all the rest were average.
"Sotirios Kyrgiakos, a central defender for Liverpool? That does my head in.
"Lucas has been trying to make a name for himself for four years but we know he won't succeed. He is just not good enough, a very average player.
"There are too many such players at Liverpool. Ditto for Joe Cole - apart from a bit of technique, he has never been consistent.
"Let's not forget he spent most of his time on the bench at Chelsea and is on an enormous salary.
"It's a similar story for Christian Poulsen. I'm not a fan of his at all. Mascherano has more talent than Poulsen in one of his toes.
"Milan Jovanovic is a joke - there should be no place for him at Liverpool - while Philipp Degen and Maxi Rodriguez are rubbish.
"Great players don't come to Liverpool these days. Top players don't just join clubs for money, they also join to win trophies. And while some clubs offer both, Liverpool don't any longer.
"Steven Gerrard has carried the team for a long time but can't keep on going flat-out all the time.
"He and Torres must not be condemned as they have masked the inadequacies of their team-mates with extraordinary displays that they cannot reproduce in the long-term.
"Peter Crouch wanted to leave the club because he wanted to play matches. Benitez never changed his system irrespective of the players he had at his disposal.
"Crouch had to wait for Torres to break a leg before he got a game and Benitez virtually never picked them in the same team, so Crouch left to get playing time elsewhere."
And, ahead of Chelsea's visit to Anfield tomorrow, Crevoisier reckons new Reds boss Roy Hodgson is now paying the price for all of Benitez's errors.
He added: "Benitez got rid of Houllier's legacy, then installed Spaniards at all levels of the club and dismissed people who had been there for decades - including some who had played a part in the club's history.
"He practised a scorched earth policy towards his predecessors.
"Now, if you look at Benitez's legacy, you'll say his scouts were no good. Has he left the club in good health? No. Has he prepared for the future? No.
"Benitez is a charmer. He comes on TV with a nice smile but I'm not fooled.
"People at Liverpool told me 'Rafa is a lucky b*****d, he got his personal glory from a single half in Istanbul'.
"Yes, he's a good tactician. When Houllier and I were at Liverpool, we lost twice to his Valencia team.
"I also don't forget that he led the team to the Champions League final but people are very disappointed with his way of working.
"I'm very sad to see such a great club struggling in the table but I don't think they will go down. They will finish around 10th.
"As for Roy Hodgson, I have a lot of respect for him. He knew he was arriving during a transitional period for Liverpool.
"He worked miracles at Fulham and will need time at Liverpool - who are a legendary club - but he is the manager they need.
"We don't know what the club's new owners will bring but at least they have their own money.
"That is unlike Hicks and Gillett, those a***holes who came to make money off the back of football.
"Liverpool has human and historic dimensions and you can't consider it like a traditional business.
"The former chairman David Moores did not sell the club for financial reasons - and he hoped that the buyers would build a new stadium and invest in strengthening the team.
"I met him after the sale to Hicks and Gillett and he was disgusted. He told me, 'They bought the club on borrowed money, they came to make money by putting the club in danger and by using Liverpool's money to finance their own borrowing'.
"They almost brought the club down and I'm very happy to see that the courts in London authorised it to be sold.
"But, if I was asked to rejoin Liverpool's coaching staff, I would refuse because I want to be able to sleep peacefully at night.
"There is no miracle solution at Liverpool and the task is immense.
"It involves reorganising the club, restructuring the management team and choosing people of quality and class in key positions.
"The new owners must bring back stability and sufficient financial backing.
"A new stadium is a priority too and, above all, patience is required."
Although this sounds like someone from the CAF wrote it!!!
LIVERPOOL'S flops have been savaged by a blistering blast from one of the Kop's former coaches.
Frenchman Jacques Crevoisier, who spent two years at Anfield under Gerard Houllier, slammed the reign of Rafa Benitez - insisting the Spaniard's signings and policies have brought the club to its knees.
If that was not enough, Crevoisier also branded former owners Tom Hicks and George Gillett "a***holes" who treated Liverpool as their own private bank.
The educated 62-year-old, a qualified psychologist, now assists Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger with his squad. He has previously worked with Tottenham.
In an interview with French football magazine So Foot, Crevoisier said: "Liverpool's current failure is linked to three people - Benitez, Hicks and Gillett.
"Benitez is an excellent coach but he recruited over 60 players during his time in charge. And, apart from Fernando Torres, Javier Mascherano and Xabi Alonso, his signings across five years were pitiful.
"Benitez brought in a staggering amount of players and at some cost. He is a very good tactician but a very bad recruiter.
"His communications were weak and his links with the players did not work. When the team lost it would be the players' fault and, when they won, it would be thanks to him.
"People who were at the club at the same time as him told me he was a megalomaniac, with people having to pledge allegiance to his way of doing things.
"The three players I've mentioned don't require an army of scouts to tell you they are very good, while all the rest were average.
"Sotirios Kyrgiakos, a central defender for Liverpool? That does my head in.
"Lucas has been trying to make a name for himself for four years but we know he won't succeed. He is just not good enough, a very average player.
"There are too many such players at Liverpool. Ditto for Joe Cole - apart from a bit of technique, he has never been consistent.
"Let's not forget he spent most of his time on the bench at Chelsea and is on an enormous salary.
"It's a similar story for Christian Poulsen. I'm not a fan of his at all. Mascherano has more talent than Poulsen in one of his toes.
"Milan Jovanovic is a joke - there should be no place for him at Liverpool - while Philipp Degen and Maxi Rodriguez are rubbish.
"Great players don't come to Liverpool these days. Top players don't just join clubs for money, they also join to win trophies. And while some clubs offer both, Liverpool don't any longer.
"Steven Gerrard has carried the team for a long time but can't keep on going flat-out all the time.
"He and Torres must not be condemned as they have masked the inadequacies of their team-mates with extraordinary displays that they cannot reproduce in the long-term.
"Peter Crouch wanted to leave the club because he wanted to play matches. Benitez never changed his system irrespective of the players he had at his disposal.
"Crouch had to wait for Torres to break a leg before he got a game and Benitez virtually never picked them in the same team, so Crouch left to get playing time elsewhere."
And, ahead of Chelsea's visit to Anfield tomorrow, Crevoisier reckons new Reds boss Roy Hodgson is now paying the price for all of Benitez's errors.
He added: "Benitez got rid of Houllier's legacy, then installed Spaniards at all levels of the club and dismissed people who had been there for decades - including some who had played a part in the club's history.
"He practised a scorched earth policy towards his predecessors.
"Now, if you look at Benitez's legacy, you'll say his scouts were no good. Has he left the club in good health? No. Has he prepared for the future? No.
"Benitez is a charmer. He comes on TV with a nice smile but I'm not fooled.
"People at Liverpool told me 'Rafa is a lucky b*****d, he got his personal glory from a single half in Istanbul'.
"Yes, he's a good tactician. When Houllier and I were at Liverpool, we lost twice to his Valencia team.
"I also don't forget that he led the team to the Champions League final but people are very disappointed with his way of working.
"I'm very sad to see such a great club struggling in the table but I don't think they will go down. They will finish around 10th.
"As for Roy Hodgson, I have a lot of respect for him. He knew he was arriving during a transitional period for Liverpool.
"He worked miracles at Fulham and will need time at Liverpool - who are a legendary club - but he is the manager they need.
"We don't know what the club's new owners will bring but at least they have their own money.
"That is unlike Hicks and Gillett, those a***holes who came to make money off the back of football.
"Liverpool has human and historic dimensions and you can't consider it like a traditional business.
"The former chairman David Moores did not sell the club for financial reasons - and he hoped that the buyers would build a new stadium and invest in strengthening the team.
"I met him after the sale to Hicks and Gillett and he was disgusted. He told me, 'They bought the club on borrowed money, they came to make money by putting the club in danger and by using Liverpool's money to finance their own borrowing'.
"They almost brought the club down and I'm very happy to see that the courts in London authorised it to be sold.
"But, if I was asked to rejoin Liverpool's coaching staff, I would refuse because I want to be able to sleep peacefully at night.
"There is no miracle solution at Liverpool and the task is immense.
"It involves reorganising the club, restructuring the management team and choosing people of quality and class in key positions.
"The new owners must bring back stability and sufficient financial backing.
"A new stadium is a priority too and, above all, patience is required."
They're going mad over at the Rafael Always Was Krap forum tonight, blaming Hodgson for drawing away at Wigan, bringing up the FSW etc etc.
Didn't Liverpool lose at Wigan last season under Rafa though?!
Didn't Liverpool lose at Wigan last season under Rafa though?!
....Shhhhh dont tell them though.
They lost?
Yup they lost to Wigan last year.
Morons.
Morons.
Guess who?
But from someone else...
But from someone else...
The first one would be that Andy guy everyone loves, I'd guess?
Doesn't he know that 30 seconds get added on for each sub?
Doesn't he know that 30 seconds get added on for each sub?
Hilarious, considering they couldn't get one over Wigan.
RAWK mods not allowing a post match thread because of the bickering that shall break out after todays result.
Which has prompted one fan to compare RAWK with communist China.
The language is cringeworthy. Be warned.
Which has prompted one fan to compare RAWK with communist China.
The language is cringeworthy. Be warned.
RAWK mods not allowing a post match thread because of the bickering that shall break out after todays result.
Which has prompted one fan to compare RAWK with communist China.
The language is cringeworthy. Be warned.
Is RAWK his therapist helping him to suppress his anger?RAWK is insane at the moment... Even after turning a corner.
I'd like to see Carragher play defensive midfield, no - really I would. ()
Roy eyes 5-6 new players in January
What the heck?!
Mind you, I can't wait to see how many Christian Poulsens he can sign with that much money. Keep Roy At 'Pool - at least until February.
I'd like to see Carragher play defensive midfield, no - really I would. (
)Roy eyes 5-6 new players in January
What the heck?!
Mind you, I can't wait to see how many Christian Poulsens he can sign with that much money. Keep Roy At 'Pool - at least until February.
RAWK mods not allowing a post match thread because of the bickering that shall break out after todays result.
Which has prompted one fan to compare RAWK with communist China.
The language is cringeworthy. Be warned.
WTF is that shit? I can't believe someone actually posted that....
RAWK taught me how to moderate my thoughts
In Soviet Rawk, forum places opinion on you.
RAWK is insane at the moment... Even after turning a corner.
I'd like to see Carragher play defensive midfield, no - really I would. (
Roy eyes 5-6 new players in January
What the heck?!
Mind you, I can't wait to see how many Christian Poulsens he can sign with that much money. Keep Roy At 'Pool - at least until February.
KRAP
During Rafa's tenure, any poor results were completely because of the owners.
During Roy's tenure, any poor results are entirely the manager's fault.
During Roy's tenure, any poor results are entirely the manager's fault.
During Rafa's tenure, any poor results were completely because of the owners.
During Roy's tenure, any poor results are entirely the manager's fault.
Shocking isn't it.
Their blind faith in Fatty is worrying to say the least.
A bad day for Liverpool fans. The Messiah loses the Milan derby - counterbalancing the elation they must have felt yesterday when Hodgson lost another game
Its not Rafas fault, clearly Inters squad is rubbish and he needs more money, the owners are not backing the team and the fans know this.
Rafa just ended Inter's long unbeaten home run, and they're still longing for him to return.
He is clearly deliberately turning Inter to shit so they fire him and he can come back to Liverpool without them having to fork out compensation. Rafa is a tactical genius!
fecking hell I'd be pissed off if I was a Liverpool fan. Clearly Inter have fecked Rafa over bigtime leaving him with a treble-winning squad. I'm guessing the Scousers will be planning some kind of march against the Inter board - that's if they recovered from the celebrations after yesterdays result
Lets not forget their darling Chelsea losing.
Someone has already started a "Congrats Man Utd" thread. TBF the poster got destroyed.
Congratulations Manchester United!
Pathetic really.
Someone has already started a "Congrats Man Utd" thread. TBF the poster got destroyed.
Congratulations Manchester United!
Pathetic really.
Inter fans after today's latest Benitez feck up:
Guys. You can't make this shit up. RAWK posters are signing up on Inter forums to defend Rafa and to slag of Mourinho. Understandably Mourinho is a God to Inter fans and they aren't too happy about this.
Rafael Benítez
Rafael Benítez
Macedonian Red said:
Macedonian Red said:
PricelessGuys. You can't make this shit up. RAWK posters are signing up on Inter forums to defend Rafa and to slag of Mourinho. Understandably Mourinho is a God to Inter fans and they aren't too happy about this.
Rafael Benítez
Oh for feck's sake
He's a massive twat on RAWK, even by their standards, one of the real staunch "Benitez did no remote wrong" people.Guys. You can't make this shit up. RAWK posters are signing up on Inter forums to defend Rafa and to slag of Mourinho. Understandably Mourinho is a God to Inter fans and they aren't too happy about this.
Rafael Benítez
That guy cant be for real? surely!?
Thing is Inter fans aren't daft, they don't accept mediocrity, they are used to winning and with the squad they have they have every right to this team 3 months ago swept everyone aside including the likes of Barcelona! now they're getting twatted by the likes of Tottenham!
They expect to dominate Serie A and will not accept crap excuses and whinging about injurys or lack of funds as an excuse, this is the total opposite of Liverpool where Benitez knew he could get away with rubbish, he could feck up year after year and he knew a few wise words to shift the blame and the muppets in the crowd would buy every word, and he was right he played them superbly to be fair, unfortunately for him not all fans are as easily manipulated as scousers, Inter arnt a team who've won feck all for 20 years and accept second best, at Liverpool he could merely point to years of failure as an excuse for his side winning nothing, he cant at Inter.
Its nothing short of criminal whats hes doing to that club, how anyone with even basic competence cant win with that squad of players given to them i dont know.
They expect to dominate Serie A and will not accept crap excuses and whinging about injurys or lack of funds as an excuse, this is the total opposite of Liverpool where Benitez knew he could get away with rubbish, he could feck up year after year and he knew a few wise words to shift the blame and the muppets in the crowd would buy every word, and he was right he played them superbly to be fair, unfortunately for him not all fans are as easily manipulated as scousers, Inter arnt a team who've won feck all for 20 years and accept second best, at Liverpool he could merely point to years of failure as an excuse for his side winning nothing, he cant at Inter.
Its nothing short of criminal whats hes doing to that club, how anyone with even basic competence cant win with that squad of players given to them i dont know.
It really is an amazing thing he's done getting the Liverpool fans to believe he's the messiah when it's pretty much all his fault they are where they are now.
Guys. You can't make this shit up. RAWK posters are signing up on Inter forums to defend Rafa and to slag of Mourinho. Understandably Mourinho is a God to Inter fans and they aren't too happy about this.
Rafael Benítez
It's Fergie's fault...Its the owners fault....it rained, the pitch is slippery.
Thats brilliant!
amazing aint it?
the scousers would still ave im back
the scousers would still ave im back
amazing aint it?
the scousers would still ave im back
And they are actually signing up on Inter forums to defend him. Its fecking hilarious. Not only that they are trashing Mourinho. The guy who won them the treble and obviously is God.
I've a feeling that Rafa could burn down Anfield in front of TV cameras whilst wearing a 'feck you, gullible idiotic LFC fans' t-shirt, flicking the v's at them, and for an encore and go and take a turd in each and every one of the living rooms of the RAWK population, and they would still idolise him
They would say he was doing it as a sign of protest against the corrupt media.
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