RAWK goes into Meltdown 2010/2011

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Moneyball scheme? What the feck is that?

The term "Moneyball" refers to a systematic shift that has occurred (and is still occurring, to some degree) in the way General Managers in baseball (I'll note that in baseball, personnel decisions such as player signings, trades, et cetera, are handle by the General Manager, and not the Manager, who runs the team on the fields) assess players abilities and operate. "Moneyball" was a title of a book written about one of the first GMs in baseball to use such a system. (The Red Sox organization is another one.)

Basically, it's applying market economics to sports management. In the context of what holdsteady is saying, if FSG determines that Torres' value to LFC is £30M, and Chelsea are offering £50M, they'll take the deal.

I'd actually quibble with that assessment for a few reasons, first off, by all indications, FSG was quite aware when they purchased LFC that the GM position basically doesn't exist in the PL.

Moreover, the systems developed to assess individual performances in baseball, a far more statistically-oriented sport than football, took essentially decades from naissance until it grew into anything resembling a comprehensive system. While I expect that the development of such a system is part of FSG's plan, (and they're not alone. The ownership group which owns the Oakland Athletics baseball team, whose GM is Moneyball's subject, Billy Beane, also owns the MLS' San Jose Earthquakes,) I highly doubt it's developed to the point where they'd feel comfortable shipping out star players without the manager's say-so.
 
Brilliant stuff.

I'm not seeing it myself but I wholeheartedly want to agree with that.

Proper rivalry. If you can't fault their footballing ability or their personality, you can at least have the decency to insinuate that there is something dark and evil hidden deep within his soul.

To be fair, he is a manc so it's probably true.

Who is manc? :confused:
 
That's where the conspiracy theories come from, because it's every ref, not just one or two but all of them, so, obviously, it has to be ordered from above or every professional referee is shite. Which is the more sensible conclusion? Surely every referee in the English game can't be crap, so it's money in brown envelopes.
 
That's where the conspiracy theories come from, because it's every ref, not just one or two but all of them, so, obviously, it has to be ordered from above or every professional referee is shite. Which is the more sensible conclusion? Surely every referee in the English game can't be crap, so it's money in brown envelopes.

But they really cant believe there own shit , can they?
They really cant believe that the FA and every top flight ref is in on a massive fix for United to win all the time , its just crazy.
What about when the same ref's give Liverpool the same freekick or pen that has he has given us and they see has a bent ref , what do they call that , revenge ?
If Liverpool had done what we did at Blackpool it would of been the gratest comeback since Lazarus but with United its a bent ref or the team let us win :wenger:
 
But they really cant believe there own shit , can they?
They really cant believe that the FA and every top flight ref is in on a massive fix for United to win all the time , its just crazy.
What about when the same ref's give Liverpool the same freekick or pen that has he has given us and they see has a bent ref , what do they call that , revenge ?
If Liverpool had done what we did at Blackpool it would of been the gratest comeback since Lazarus but with United its a bent ref or the team let us win :wenger:

Stop trying to rationalise the Scouse...
 
But they really cant believe there own shit , can they?
They really cant believe that the FA and every top flight ref is in on a massive fix for United to win all the time , its just crazy.
What about when the same ref's give Liverpool the same freekick or pen that has he has given us and they see has a bent ref , what do they call that , revenge ?
If Liverpool had done what we did at Blackpool it would of been the gratest comeback since Lazarus but with United its a bent ref or the team let us win :wenger:

All Clattenburg's decisions in that Merseyside derby were correct (except those in favour of Everton obviously).

In fact, all decisions in favour of Liverpool are, de facto, correct, and all decisions in favour of Utd likewise evidence of corruption - it's so obvious! can't you see it? It has to be that way.
 
All Clattenburg's decisions in that Merseyside derby were correct (except those in favour of Everton obviously).

In fact, all decisions in favour of Liverpool are, de facto, correct, and all decisions in favour of Utd likewise evidence of corruption - it's so obvious! can't you see it? It has to be that way.

Liverpool win with dodgy pen ,then that OK
United win with dodgy pen , then thats a bent ref , FA , Sky ,everybody.

I get it , but it does get boring
 
The ref for the Blackpool game was getting hammered on RAWK the whole match, even though he seemingly engineered a situation where they went 2-0 up and then allowed us to score 3 goals. Surely it would have been more simple to disallow their two goals for infringements in the box?
 
The ref for the Blackpool game was getting hammered on RAWK the whole match, even though he seemingly engineered a situation where they went 2-0 up and then allowed us to score 3 goals. Surely it would have been more simple to disallow their two goals for infringements in the box?

He was being paid by the bookies too (they would claim).
 
The only thing Atkinson did wrong in that match was stand in the way of play a hell of a lot. I don't remember any controversial or contestable decisions being made, what was their problem?
 
I would laugh my balls off if Suarez didnt agree terms and Torres was still sold.

Rawk would instantly implode
 
The only thing Atkinson did wrong in that match was stand in the way of play a hell of a lot. I don't remember any controversial or contestable decisions being made, what was their problem?

Might it be that he's not actually biased and corrupt, Ferguson doesn't run football, and the Liverpool fans perceive all the events of United games through a filter of bewildered loathing and despair?
 
The rational ones don't.

Just like rational Utd fans don't buy into the greater ABU conspiracy theory oft touted by some.

Perhaps not the entire conspiracy angle but there are certain sections of the press that love whipping up anti-United feelings amongst other fans. It sells papers and attracts viewers and listeners.
 
When walking away from St. Marys yesterday most of the saints fans around me were talking about us bribing the referee and saying United were a shit team, so it's not only RAWK.
 
Might it be that he's not actually biased and corrupt, Ferguson doesn't run football, and the Liverpool fans perceive all the events of United games through a filter of bewildered loathing and despair?

I think you might be on to something.
 
There's a surprise eh.

tough home tie for united.. surprise surprise

Really words can not describe how shocked I am that United get Crawley, who would have thunk it.

It's the magic the magic of the FA cup


or they just rigged the balls


"Mr Ferguson in draw rigging shock - how long can we let this go on?"

Two words.

'WARM' & 'BALLS'

And I'm not talking about the mini pocket hot water bottle I have down my pants.

So is the draw supposed to be live?

Quelle fecking surprise.


Oh dear. Their paranoia knows no bounds.
 
An ex-Liverpool defender facilitating it too. God I love our brutally ironic bribery.
 
How many games was it we had in a row vs Premier League teams in up until recently? Short memories, over at RAWK.

11, 2 of which we could only draw Premier League teams in. In fairness, there were quite a few people on here at the time (including myself) who foolishly believed there actually was a conspiracy.
 
Dear Scousers.

If you had won with us ealier this month, you would have drawn Southampton and then Crawley fecking Town.

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When walking away from St. Marys yesterday most of the saints fans around me were talking about us bribing the referee and saying United were a shit team, so it's not only RAWK.
That's because we are not playing at our best so they convince themselves that they can and will beat us. They're so miffed when they lose that they blame the ref. It's a lot easier than blaming their own team for losing it and justifies their original belief that they were good enough to win.
 
Dear Scousers.

If you had won with us ealier this month, you would have drawn Southampton and then Crawley fecking Town.

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That's not how Roy would have seen it though. Although it would have been 'a remarkable coup' to steal a victory at old trafford there is no doubt that the above teams are, like Northampton 'formidable opponents without doubt'. Certainly, good enough that if we were playing them away we'd be setting out for a draw and hoping to steal a goal at Anfield in the replay.

Of course, there is a major flaw in this, since we all know there is no way Roy would be able to keep a clean sheet away from home, but it would have made for a grand adventure. Perhaps even a 'famous victory' in one of those fixtures.
 
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