Your case is a poor one if you are using the Daily Mail as evidence.
That said, Benitez didn't spend £250m at Liverpool. Nothing like it.
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Your case is a poor one if you are using the Daily Mail as evidence.
That said, Benitez didn't spend £250m at Liverpool. Nothing like it.
Wow, £230m well spent. Look at the shambles they're in now - all down to Rafa la.
Define better, if you consider the rubbish that Benitez fed you guys as being good then given time and some money he could eclipse Benitez's (under)achievements with your lot.
Is that yes or no?
I'd say Hodgson is probably a slightly better manager than Rafa but nowhere near as good a coach.
ahhh..if repeating that over and over again makes u sleep at nite...carry on then...
It makes no difference to me how much he spent. He's no longer manager of Liverpool.
But he didn't spend £250m. Nothing like it.
The floor is yours to prove me wrong of course. Good luck!
Maybe you should try and prove yourself right? After all - he's provided one newpaper link as evidence, and you've discounted it. Why don't you show us a source you do trust?
If it makes you lot feel better, I'll happily say he spent £1bn.
It doesn't matter either way. It is what it is.
You're a moron.
SamG in 'refusing to make a point, then refusing to provide any evidence despite demanding that others do exactly that' shocker
I am not demanding anything of anyone. I have said Dragon Marsh is more than welcome to prove me wrong and whether he tries or not is up to him. I am not particularly bothered either way.
I am not entirely sure Hodgson is a better manager than Benitez so if some Liverpool fans are a little frustrated at replacing one manager with an inferior one, I can understand their displeasure.
Transfer League Managers Table | League Tables
Now rather than just saying the figures are wrong, you can look at the raw data in the following link, and tell us your reasoning.
Liverpool Transfers | Premiership Transfers
RAWK posters continue to fail to see how far they have fallen.
Maybe O'Shea deserved to walk, but bloody hell, "last man" isn't in the game rules!
Keep deluding yourself mate.I've just been reading the comments over there, to be fair, quite a few of them are saying that they were just poor and didn't create anything noteworthy. Then there's a few less blaming Woy and saying "Bye" already - followed by the expected "omg he was last man, send o'shea off!!!!" bollocks.
Makes me laugh either way :-)
Makes me laugh either way :-)
Essien's calculator has been found by this RAWK fellow
"I thought we were going to get something out of that - gutted! at least we won the second half!"
err...
"I thought we were going to get something out of that - gutted! at least we won the second half!"
err...
Essien's calculator has been found by this RAWK fellow
"I thought we were going to get something out of that - gutted! at least we won the second half!"
err...
Essien's calculator has been found by this RAWK fellow
"I thought we were going to get something out of that - gutted! at least we won the second half!"
err...
He must have pressed the shift button accidentally, which means that he looked at who won the last half hour.
why are u going off tangent with the discussion and making it into an immature "did so and did not" argument...?
please discuss it maturely...Kraftwerker have given the evidence that rafa did spent 250 million (rounded up)....
but all that were heard from u is "did not"..."did not"..."did not"..."did not"...like a broken record...
arent u capable of arguing or discussing matters in an intelligent way?
We do not use or encourage text speech here.
Cut it out and talk properly please.
Type Hectic, type. Type properly. Unless he's using speech recognition, in which case you would be correct.
add the blatant penalty after carrager ripping vidic's shirt of his back
Great dive by Vidic there. He's been marking Nani in training clearly!
Players get away with too much pushing and shoving at corners. They need to clamp down on it.
You're not serious are you ? That wasn't just a "pushing and shoving".The guy almost ripped his shirt
Did you not see his dive?
Granted Carragher was all over him but the dive was absolutely ridiculous. He flew through the air!
Does anyone have a video of the incident?
Seaching through YT but can´t find anything...
BTW Carra only got a yellow too, didn´t he?
Vidic jumped and Carragher pulled him, how the hell did you want Vida to react ?
Who cares about the fecking dive, if it's a foul and a penalty + yellow card
Who cares about the fecking dive, if it's a foul and a penalty + yellow card
Come on now, he clearly dived.
I'm sure his intention was to let the referee know he was being fouled (and he was definitely being fouled) but he was very theatrical IMO, unnecessarily so, In fact, I can't help thinking that we might have got a penalty if he'd gone down a bit less dramatically.
They could conceivably give a penalty at every corner. I wish they would and then that nonsense would be quickly stamped out
And 'who cares about the fecking dive'? Not you, clearly. It's blatant cheating in my view and needs to be stamped out also.
Why do you lot let the troll wind you up?! He's a Liverpool supporter, you're not going to agree with him and he won't agree with you.
Still think you're finishing 4th Sam? Above Tottenham?
Still think you're finishing 4th Sam? Above Tottenham?
Why do you lot let the troll wind you up?! He's a Liverpool supporter, you're not going to agree with him and he won't agree with you.
Still think you're finishing 4th Sam? Above Tottenham?
We'll finish above Spurs in my view. Not sure re 4th, though I never hugely confident. Tough first 5 fixtures mind so see where we are after 10 games.
Jury's out on good ol' Roy also.
I would say Hodgson is on a par with Rafa all things considered.
It was a dive and a non too pleasing either because how else could a 6"2 plus centreback reknowned for his physical approach to the game fly in mid air in a manner that would make the producers of Superman reconsider Brandon Routh's role.
I'm torn on whether it's cheating, I guess it probably is, but really it's just trying to make sure you get your decision
Carragher fouled Vidic, Vidic wanted to try and guarantee the foul. It's not a nice part of the game, but you can hardly blame them for this. It's not as if it was a complete dive...in the sense that there was no contact
The dive wouldn't have happened if Carragher tried to defend like a man and not cheated.I guess it's all he can do now to keep up with opponents, just cheat
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Season 10/11 * * * * * *
Jonjo Shelvey* £1,700,000 * David Martin* Free * *
Milan Jovanović* Free * Robbie Threlfall* Free * *
Danny Wilson £2,000,000 * Christopher Oldfield* Released * *
Joe Cole Free * Mikel San Jose Undisclosed * *
Fabio Aureilo Free * Yossi Benayoun £5,000,000 * *
Christian Poulson £4,500,000 * Albert Riera £5,000,000 * *
Brad Jones £2,300,000 * Diego Cavalieri £1,000,000 * *
Raul Meireles £11,500,000 * Kristian Nemeth £1,500,000 * *
Paul Konchesky Swap * Alexander Kacaniklic Swap * *
Suso Signed * Lauri Dalla Valle Swap * *
* * * Javier Macherano £17,300,000 * *
Total £22,000,000 * * £29,800,000 -£7,800,000 *
Season 09/10 * * * * * *
Glen Johnson £17,500,000[1] * Sami Hyypiä Free * *
Chris Mavinga Signed[2] * Jack Hobbs Signed * *
Stephen Sama Free * Paul Anderson £250,000 * *
Alberto Aquilani £17,000,000[3] * Sebastian Leto £3,000,000 * *
Sotirios Kyrgiakos £1,500,000 * Astrit Ajdarevic Free * *
Maxi Rodriguez Free * Jermaine Pennant Free * *
* * * Alvaro Arbeloa £3,500,000[4] * *
* * * Xabi Alonso £30,000,000[5] * *
* * * Shane O Connor Free * *
* * * Adam Hammill Signed * *
* * * Andrea Dossena £4,500,000 * *
* * * Andriy Voronin £1,800,000 * *
* * * Chris Buchtmann £100,000 * *
* * * Nikolay Mihaylov £1,500,000[6] * *
Total £36,000,000 * * £44,650,000 -£8,650,000 *
Season 08/09 * * * * * *
Philipp Degen Free * Anthony Le Tallec Undisclosed * *
Andrea Dossena £7,000,000 * Harry Kewell Free * *
Diego Cavalieri £3,500,000 * Peter Crouch £10,000,000 * *
Robbie Keane £19,000,000[7] * Danny Gutherie £2,500,000 * *
Vitor Flora Signed * John Arne Riise £4,000,000 * *
Alberto Riera £8,000,000 * Scott Carson £3,250,000 * *
David Ngog £1,500,000 * Steve Finnan £1,000,000 * *
* * * Robbie Keane £12,000,000[8] * *
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* * * * * * *
Season 07/08 * * * * * *
Javier Mascherano £17,100,000 * Lee Peltier Signed * *
Martin Skrtel £6,500,000 * Mohamed Sissoko £8,200,000 * *
Damien Plessis Signed * Gabriel Paletta Signed * *
Emiliano Insua £1,300,000 * Robbie Fowler Free * *
Ryan Babel £11,500,000 * Jerzy Dudek Free * *
Yossi Benayoun £5,000,000 * Mark Gonzalez £4,200,000 * *
Sebastian Leto £1,850,000 * Craig Bellamy £7,500,000 * *
Fernando Torres £26,500,000[9] * Djibril Cisse £6,000,000 * *
Charles-Hubert Itandje Signed * Boudewijn Zenden Free * *
Andrei Voronin Free * Luis Garcia £4,000,000 * *
Total £69,750,000 * * £29,900,000 £39,850,000 *
* * * * * * *
Season 06/07 * * * * * *
Lucas Pezzini Leiva £6,000,000 * Danny O'Donnell £100,000 * *
Francisco Manuel Dura Signed * Florent Sinama Pongoll £2,700,000 * *
Javier Mascherano £1,500,000 * Salif Diao Free * *
Alvaro Arbeloa £2,640,000 * Stephen Warnock £1,500,000 * *
Nabil El Zhar £200,000 * Darren Potter £250,000 * *
Dirk Kuyt £9,000,000 * David Mannix Signed * *
Jermaine Pennant £6,700,000 * Chris Kirkland £3,000,000 * *
Fabiano Aurelio Free * Jan Kromkamp £1,500,000 * *
Gabriel Paletta £2,000,000 * Neil Mellor £250,000 * *
* * * Djimi Traore £2,000,000 * *
* * * Antonio Barragan £680,000 * *
* * * Robbie Foy Free * *
* * * Carl Medjani Signed * *
* * * Dietmar Hamann £400,000 * *
* * * Ramon Calliste Free * *
* * * David Raven Free * *
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* * * * * * *
Season 05/06 * * * * * *
Craig Bellamy £6,000,000 * Calum Woods Signed * *
Robbie Fowler Free * Bruno Cheyrou Signed * *
Daniel Agger £5,800,000 * Zak Whitbread Free * *
David Martin Signed * Conal Platt Free * *
Jose Reina £6,000,000 * Fernando Morientes £3,000,000 * *
Jan Kromkamp Swap * John Welsh Swap * *
Paul Anderson Signed * Josemi Swap * *
Jack Hobbs Signed * Mark Smyth Free * *
Godwin Antwi Signed * Paul Harrison Free * *
Peter Crouch £7,000,000 * Milan Baros £6,500,000 * *
Mohamed Sissoko £5,600,000 * Ritchie Partridge Signed * *
Antonio Barragan £240,000 * Antonio Nunez Signed * *
Boudewijn Zenden Free * Gregory Vignal Free * *
Mark Gonzalez £4,500,000 * Jon Otsemobor Free * *
* * * Mauricio Pellegrino Free * *
Total £35,140,000 * * £9,500,000 £25,640,000 *
* * * * * * *
Season 04/05 * * * * * *
Scott Carson £1,000,000 * El Hadji Diouf £4,000,000 * *
Fernando Morientes £6,300,000 * Vladimir Smicer Free * *
Mauricio Pellegrino Free * Stephane Henchoz Free * *
Antonio Nunez Swap * Chris Butler Free * *
Xabi Alonso £10,500,000 * Michael Owen £8,000,000 * *
Luis Garcia £6,000,000 * Danny Murphy £2,500,000 * *
Josemi £2,000,000 * Markus Babbel Free * *
Djibril Cisse £14,000,000 * * * * *
Total £39,800,000 * * £14,500,000 £25,300,000 *
Season 10/11 * * * * * *
Jonjo Shelvey* £1,700,000 * David Martin* Free * *
Milan Jovanović* Free * Robbie Threlfall* Free * *
Danny Wilson £2,000,000 * Christopher Oldfield* Released * *
Joe Cole Free * Mikel San Jose Undisclosed * *
Fabio Aureilo Free * Yossi Benayoun £5,000,000 * *
Christian Poulson £4,500,000 * Albert Riera £5,000,000 * *
Brad Jones £2,300,000 * Diego Cavalieri £1,000,000 * *
Raul Meireles £11,500,000 * Kristian Nemeth £1,500,000 * *
Paul Konchesky Swap * Alexander Kacaniklic Swap * *
Suso Signed * Lauri Dalla Valle Swap * *
* * * Javier Macherano £17,300,000 * *
Total £22,000,000 * * £29,800,000 -£7,800,000 *
Season 09/10 * * * * * *
Glen Johnson £17,500,000[1] * Sami Hyypiä Free * *
Chris Mavinga Signed[2] * Jack Hobbs Signed * *
Stephen Sama Free * Paul Anderson £250,000 * *
Alberto Aquilani £17,000,000[3] * Sebastian Leto £3,000,000 * *
Sotirios Kyrgiakos £1,500,000 * Astrit Ajdarevic Free * *
Maxi Rodriguez Free * Jermaine Pennant Free * *
* * * Alvaro Arbeloa £3,500,000[4] * *
* * * Xabi Alonso £30,000,000[5] * *
* * * Shane O Connor Free * *
* * * Adam Hammill Signed * *
* * * Andrea Dossena £4,500,000 * *
* * * Andriy Voronin £1,800,000 * *
* * * Chris Buchtmann £100,000 * *
* * * Nikolay Mihaylov £1,500,000[6] * *
Total £36,000,000 * * £44,650,000 -£8,650,000 *
Season 08/09 * * * * * *
Philipp Degen Free * Anthony Le Tallec Undisclosed * *
Andrea Dossena £7,000,000 * Harry Kewell Free * *
Diego Cavalieri £3,500,000 * Peter Crouch £10,000,000 * *
Robbie Keane £19,000,000[7] * Danny Gutherie £2,500,000 * *
Vitor Flora Signed * John Arne Riise £4,000,000 * *
Alberto Riera £8,000,000 * Scott Carson £3,250,000 * *
David Ngog £1,500,000 * Steve Finnan £1,000,000 * *
* * * Robbie Keane £12,000,000[8] * *
Total £39,000,000 * * £32,750,000 £6,250,000 *
* * * * * * *
Season 07/08 * * * * * *
Javier Mascherano £17,100,000 * Lee Peltier Signed * *
Martin Skrtel £6,500,000 * Mohamed Sissoko £8,200,000 * *
Damien Plessis Signed * Gabriel Paletta Signed * *
Emiliano Insua £1,300,000 * Robbie Fowler Free * *
Ryan Babel £11,500,000 * Jerzy Dudek Free * *
Yossi Benayoun £5,000,000 * Mark Gonzalez £4,200,000 * *
Sebastian Leto £1,850,000 * Craig Bellamy £7,500,000 * *
Fernando Torres £26,500,000[9] * Djibril Cisse £6,000,000 * *
Charles-Hubert Itandje Signed * Boudewijn Zenden Free * *
Andrei Voronin Free * Luis Garcia £4,000,000 * *
Total £69,750,000 * * £29,900,000 £39,850,000 *
* * * * * * *
Season 06/07 * * * * * *
Lucas Pezzini Leiva £6,000,000 * Danny O'Donnell £100,000 * *
Francisco Manuel Dura Signed * Florent Sinama Pongoll £2,700,000 * *
Javier Mascherano £1,500,000 * Salif Diao Free * *
Alvaro Arbeloa £2,640,000 * Stephen Warnock £1,500,000 * *
Nabil El Zhar £200,000 * Darren Potter £250,000 * *
Dirk Kuyt £9,000,000 * David Mannix Signed * *
Jermaine Pennant £6,700,000 * Chris Kirkland £3,000,000 * *
Fabiano Aurelio Free * Jan Kromkamp £1,500,000 * *
Gabriel Paletta £2,000,000 * Neil Mellor £250,000 * *
* * * Djimi Traore £2,000,000 * *
* * * Antonio Barragan £680,000 * *
* * * Robbie Foy Free * *
* * * Carl Medjani Signed * *
* * * Dietmar Hamann £400,000 * *
* * * Ramon Calliste Free * *
* * * David Raven Free * *
Total £28,040,000 * * £12,380,000 £15,660,000 *
* * * * * * *
Season 05/06 * * * * * *
Craig Bellamy £6,000,000 * Calum Woods Signed * *
Robbie Fowler Free * Bruno Cheyrou Signed * *
Daniel Agger £5,800,000 * Zak Whitbread Free * *
David Martin Signed * Conal Platt Free * *
Jose Reina £6,000,000 * Fernando Morientes £3,000,000 * *
Jan Kromkamp Swap * John Welsh Swap * *
Paul Anderson Signed * Josemi Swap * *
Jack Hobbs Signed * Mark Smyth Free * *
Godwin Antwi Signed * Paul Harrison Free * *
Peter Crouch £7,000,000 * Milan Baros £6,500,000 * *
Mohamed Sissoko £5,600,000 * Ritchie Partridge Signed * *
Antonio Barragan £240,000 * Antonio Nunez Signed * *
Boudewijn Zenden Free * Gregory Vignal Free * *
Mark Gonzalez £4,500,000 * Jon Otsemobor Free * *
* * * Mauricio Pellegrino Free * *
Total £35,140,000 * * £9,500,000 £25,640,000 *
* * * * * * *
Season 04/05 * * * * * *
Scott Carson £1,000,000 * El Hadji Diouf £4,000,000 * *
Fernando Morientes £6,300,000 * Vladimir Smicer Free * *
Mauricio Pellegrino Free * Stephane Henchoz Free * *
Antonio Nunez Swap * Chris Butler Free * *
Xabi Alonso £10,500,000 * Michael Owen £8,000,000 * *
Luis Garcia £6,000,000 * Danny Murphy £2,500,000 * *
Josemi £2,000,000 * Markus Babbel Free * *
Djibril Cisse £14,000,000 * * * * *
Total £39,800,000 * * £14,500,000 £25,300,000 *
fecking formatting.
Anyway, pick the arse out of that sam.
Anyway, pick the arse out of that sam.
I see what you are saying there, Ed. If you don't go to ground, you often don't get the decision when there is clear interference. I think the key is subtlety and Vidic wasn't all that subtle.
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