RAWK goes into Meltdown 2010/2011

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Sparky_Hughes said:
Never mind the backpass, lets list things that have happened since Liverpool last won the league:

DVD
Internet
death of Video/Cassetes
Death Of Diana
9/11
Political correctness and health and safety have ruined the country,
Labour have come to power, turned us into a police state, and been kicked out again


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Blu-ray
HD TV, actually 3D TV
PlayStation 1, 2 & 3
James Cameron smashed the all time box office record twice
2 Gulf Wars
Oh, and we only have 8 planets left
 
Hodgson is the new Graham Taylor.

Bugger...wrong thread. :lol:
 
Sam.G said:
I've never come across a decent one personally. Maybe you're different somehow. I doubt it judging from this thread but it could be misleading. :)
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To be fair anyone who voted for fuhrer blair condemming anyones choice of representative is a bit much :)
 
evra said:
They're trying to cover all the ethnicities, it's compassionate conservatism.
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Its our skip licking outreach program....We thought we should sort our own starving jobless underclass before sending money abroad.
 
Sam.G said:
'Spanner'?

Nice one, goofy.

And I bet she is drawing some lame, illogical conclusion between the abolition of the back pass and Liverpool's failure to win any league title since.
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Look, if someone's being an idiot I have no problem with someone pointing it out, but please, if you're going to patronise someone at least don't make yourself look like you struggle with the meanings of basic words.
 
samabachan said:
Look, if someone's being an idiot I have no problem with someone pointing it out, but please, if you're going to patronise someone at least don't make yourself look like you struggle with the meanings of basic words.
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You didn't do such a bad job of the patronising yourself there, Goofy.

And I was right; that was her point unless she's incfredibly dull and was actually interested in Redman's thoughts on the backpass rule.

She's either dull or illogical. Take your pick. My pick is illogical.
 
Sam.G said:
You didn't do such a bad job of the patronising yourself there, Goofy.

And I was right; that was her point unless she's incfredibly dull and was actually interested in Redman's thoughts on the backpass rule.

She's either dull or illogical. Take your pick. My pick is illogical.
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Well they say there's a first time for everything, and I can honestly I have never been called dull!
You're such a touchy little chap, Sam, why call him goofy?
Maybe I should have asked red man what he thought of the abolition of the back pass rule - would that have suited you better?
 
EricaNo7 said:
Maybe I should have asked red man what he thought of the abolition of the back pass rule - would that have suited you better?
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Genuine question then; why do you care what he thinks? Why would anyone care?

Answer that without coming across dull.. :)
 
They are discussing that Houllier and Rafa weren't failures. Someone listed the list of achievements of both managers. After the UCL success FA Cup wins etc. here are the other "achievements"

European Super Cup:
2001, 2005

Domestic Super Cup:
2001, 2006

League runners-up:
2002, 2009

3rd place:
2001, 2006, 2007

Champions League finalists:
2007

Champions League semi finalists:
2008

Champions League quarter finalists:
2002, 2009

UEFA Europa League semi finalists:
2010

League Cup runners-up:
2005
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Sam.G said:
Genuine question then; why do you care what he thinks? Why would anyone care?

Answer that without coming across dull.. :)
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Do you have to care what someone thinks then, to ask them a question?
We were discussing Liverpool in the seventies - when no doubt you were the embryo of a foetus, and I immediately thought of the back pass rule - which Liverpool used to very good advantage
 
Ole's_toe_poke said:
They are discussing that Houllier and Rafa weren't failures. Someone listed the list of achievements of both managers. After the UCL success FA Cup wins etc. here are the other "achievements"
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I wouldn't really consider them failures. Unless of course you decide it purely on winning or not winning the league, in which case, they were. But they both won pretty much everything bar the League (Houllier minus CL and Rafa minus Carling) Obviously the league is a big, big deal, but compared to every other manager between the two Dalglish periods (all two of them) they were clearly the most successful.

Depends if you're glass half full or half empty of course. Obviously not being fully old enough to cognatively register Liverpools constant league success means I view them winning anything as a success for them, whereas older fans view it simply live or die by the League (or CL) I'd imagine.
 
Mockney said:
I wouldn't really consider them failures. Unless of course you decide it purely on winning or not winning the league, in which case, they were. But they both won pretty much everything bar the League (Houllier minus CL and Rafa minus Carling) Obviously the league is a big, big deal, but compared to every other manager between the two Dalglish periods (all two of them) they were clearly the most successful.

Depends if you're glass half full or half empty of course. Obviously not being fully old enough to cognatively register Liverpools constant league success means I view them winning anything as a success for them, whereas older fans view it simply live or die by the League (or CL) I'd imagine.
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Not forgetting that Utd through the 70's and 80's would have killed to have the success that Houllier and Benitez achieved.

And that when we won the Cup Winners Cup in 1991 it at the time was our greatest moment for more than 20 years.

Perspective is needed at times.

Wonder if we became shit what a lot of fans reaction would be.
 
Denis' cuff said:
we are talking 60s - Liverpool were not "dominant"
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It was the start of the era when they became dominant.

Denis' cuff said:
I don't understand your point - and think you have totally missed it.
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You are trying to belittle Liverpool FC with silly statistics just for the sake of it. You are saying that they didn't play attacking or entertaining football on the basis of goals scored alone, which is quite clearly a load of rubbish!

Arsenal this season have scored 1 less goal than United. Which do you think has been the more attacking and entertaining team? I've no problem with having a laugh at the scousers, but I'm not putting up with bullshit.
 
Not from RAWK, but it is from a Liverpool fan site

I’m probably not the only LFC fan who has thought that since that day in 1991. But now looking back on it, with the added advantage of seeing him manage now after being out of the game for ten years. Makes me wonder, how good could have the club been if he had just taken the rest of that season off? Would Man Utd have ever had made the 90′s theirs?

I know it’s all conjecture right now, or is it? He took charge of two teams in the EPL after he left, and did very well. Blackburn and Newcastle wish to have half of everything Liverpool have right now. Heck they’d take Roy over some of their past. He took Blackburn to a title, took Newcastle to second, and beat Barca with Newcastle. IF he had stayed with Liverpool could he have done the same?

I can’t reiterate the point too much, he took a club with no history, and a fly by night owner (to a point) with lots of money to the title. He has said that the one player he wanted to bring in but was screwed out of getting was Roy Keane. You think if he was still at Liverpool, had Keane been taken away from him by Fergie? With what Liverpool had, and the modest success Fergie would have had, Kenny would have snagged him. Now I don’t know if Keane would have worked in Liverpool with Stan Collymore, or any of the players because of his personality. Would have Zidane have come to Liverpool?

Would have Eric Canatona or Alan Shearer come to Anfield? Well since Kenny was able to pry Shearer off of Southampton for Blackburn, and given the money that was in the game at the time, Kenny could have had him at Liverpool. Then of course we would have had that annoying goal celebration.

I fully expect, or think more importantly that Michael Owen and Robbie Fowler would have left eventually, but not as fast. John Barnes, and Ian Rush would have seen their careers out at the club because of Kenny.

Ok, so we get all of that, what type of silverware haul would we have had? Would we have been look at 30 Titles, 9 Europe Cups, and more 15 FA cups? Probably not that much.

Blackburn would have still happened, Jack Walker would have just found someone else at the time. He may have not gotten Shearer, but there were strikers out there who would have filled the bill. This is hard for me to say, Man Utd would have probably won two titles.

So where does that leave Kenny and LFC in the nineties?

I say he’d have taken the winning leagues into 94 (consecutively). Then probably would have won 99, and 2000, then retiring. So I say another five titles.

Would have won Istanbul, and the Cups that were won in the 90′s anyway.

But add one other European Cup, and three more FA’s.

That’s my view

What if Kenny never left? :: The Empire of The Kop – Liverpool F.C.
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*With credit to GME
 
Denis' cuff said:
ok Mr Statto, your first game was a 6-1 win. Even mid-table sides manage that now and then. It hardly proves Liverpool as a great entertaining and attacking force although they were obviously a force.....and just a reminder here, they played four extra games (42 as opposed to 38) back then so 9/10 goals above the modern teams is a given for champs.
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So then. In United's 2 title winning seasons, they scored a total of 173 goals. In ours, we scored 171. But United, & everyone else during this period, played breathtaking, attacking football. Whereas Liverpool, played some dull stuff, & our goals were by virtue of 'wearing teams down'. I'm trying to elevate myself to your little planet, where I'm sure this makes perfect sense. But I'm struggling kiddo, I really am - You'll be telling me next that the abolishment of the back-pass rule played a major part in football.

Oh, & Charlton, Law, Best, Kidd, etc, were all very much part of the slide. All were still at the club a year or so before relegation in 1974. So, sometimes managers need to adapt to a changing climate. Shankly proved he was a man for all seasons.
 
Ole's_toe_poke said:
They are discussing that Houllier and Rafa weren't failures. Someone listed the list of achievements of both managers. After the UCL success FA Cup wins etc. here are the other "achievements"


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Am I the only one who reads Rafa's glitzy record this way?

2005: Champion's League winners
2007: Champions League finalists
2008: Champions League semi finalists
2009: Champions League quarter finalists
2010: UEFA Europa League semi finalists

Or am I a retarded WUM?
 
Some serious threadjacking going on here, I keep coming back for a chuckle only to be sent in to a frenzy of boredom...

In summary, get the thread on track. Open another thread for all the off topic stuff...
 
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What the hell is the matter with these people when they put "Justice For The 96" on their wum/parody movie posters?

It is like they don't even know what it means.
 
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