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RAWK goes into Meltdown 2010/2011
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We are only after Young because Fergie is scared of Dalglish? Wiki says Hodgson left Liverpool on 8 January 2011. The Ashley Young thread here was started on 22 October last year. Speculation about our interest has been pretty consistent since then.
Fergie's still upset about Dalglish nicking Glenn Hysen off us? Think we got revenge (and more) when Fergie got Keano from Dalglish's clutches.
has he made any norwood references yet?
Why was Scholesy banned from the Caf?
(Serious question, I know he was a bit of a strange poster)
(Serious question, I know he was a bit of a strange poster)
With Scholesy, it's always polemic.
They haven't even won a match since their caretaker boss signed a lucrative permanent contract. The mofo can't wait to get back to a life of retirement on the pro-celeb golf courses where he came from with an extra £fewmillion in the bank account.
But let's give them credit. It wouldn't be half as funny when they inevitably finish mid-table again next season if they didn't believe they were... serious... conte[bursts out in fits of laughter]nders for the title.
But let's give them credit. It wouldn't be half as funny when they inevitably finish mid-table again next season if they didn't believe they were... serious... conte[bursts out in fits of laughter]nders for the title.
"...tell us why Alex Ferguson has just shelled out £16m on a young centre-back with 35 Premier League appearances to his name.
Because the United manager himself might struggle to explain why.
No matter what potential Phil Jones possesses – and he’s already been compared to a young John Terry – he’s joined a club which already has a world class central defensive partnership in Rio Ferdinand and Nemanja Vidic, a club with accomplished back up in Chris Smalling..."
Who we signed for £10m with about 2 Premier League appearances to his name. What a stupid article.
What a terrible article.
They're just upset/angry/infuriated/humiliated call it what you will that their top 2 English targets have basically given them the finger in favour of moving to a bigger club that just so happens to be us.
those Ihni binni dimi diniwiny anitaime just lap this shit up
Even if he did, he still shouldn't have played.
When will the 2011/2012 thread arrive?
5th of july would be a sound date. A year on.
He's up against some pretty stiff competition. It's not every day one comes across a sentence like this --
BMW @ RAWK said:
Blimey, that's like one of friendlytramp's transfer posts.
Is english his first language?
It's probably his last.
RAWKite eejit on Phil Jones said:
...what?
I think he is assuming that a buy out clause in a contract is solely between a player and his club, ie, it gives a player the right to pay the club £Xm to terminate his contract.
Going with his assumption, that means that if Blackburn wanted to be awkward, and keep him, they could demand Jones buys himself out of his contract. In that case we would need to give him the £16m which he personally paid to do so, but with a 50% tax rate we would actually have to give him £32m.
I reckon, however, release clauses stipulate that a player can go to another club if they put in a bid at a certain value, rendering his whole point moot.
Going with his assumption, that means that if Blackburn wanted to be awkward, and keep him, they could demand Jones buys himself out of his contract. In that case we would need to give him the £16m which he personally paid to do so, but with a 50% tax rate we would actually have to give him £32m.
I reckon, however, release clauses stipulate that a player can go to another club if they put in a bid at a certain value, rendering his whole point moot.
...that doesn't make it any less insane.
So the theory is that to buy Jones' contract, we have to give Jones the money to pay the release clause, but somehow, this money were are paying to an individual who is not yet contracted with us counts as income (unless there's a sales tax+VAT combo on footballers that somehow reaches 50%), so we have to pay £16M extra, which presumably goes to HM Revenue and Customs?
Bollocks.
So the theory is that to buy Jones' contract, we have to give Jones the money to pay the release clause, but somehow, this money were are paying to an individual who is not yet contracted with us counts as income (unless there's a sales tax+VAT combo on footballers that somehow reaches 50%), so we have to pay £16M extra, which presumably goes to HM Revenue and Customs?
Bollocks.
but although the payment to Jones might be taxable, him having to pay Blackburn would be tax deductable
a load of bollox anyway - surely it'll eventually go thru as originally reported - they're just being stupid cnuts
a load of bollox anyway - surely it'll eventually go thru as originally reported - they're just being stupid cnuts
Buy out clauses are just a threshold you have to reach before a club is powerless to stop a player leaving for an agreed fee. Chelsea have came up against them numerous times before, one exmample was Damien Duff from Blackburn, by offering £17 million Blackburn were compelled to accept it.
Depends on exactly what the contract says. The noises from Blackburn appear to suggest that a bid of £16M plus triggers negotiations over a transfer with no definitive need to accept that bid.
Both Liverpool and the Venkys are going to come out looking like cnuts after this is done.
So clueless.....so small time....
That's a brilliant piece. Basically, we're signing Ashley Young - a player we've been interested in for months - because we're worried about a side that finished 6th last season. Same with Phil Jones whom we've been tracking for 18 months.
Scouser delusion isn't confined to RAWK, I see. This idea that Fergie is in any way worried about Dalglish is hilarious.
They....they cant be serious right?
We should take pleasure in reading that sort of thing really, think about it, this is what our great club has reduced them to, petty smalltime supposed victories that basically mean getting told where to go by a player in favour of us! this is whats considered a success in Liverpool thse days!
Phil Jones tells Liverpool i dont want to join you i want to join United
Liverpool bid more money
United sign Jones for less than Liverpool offered and scousers scream victory!!
I give you Liverpool football club 2011.
I also love the notion in that post that us 'supposedly' playing an extra 4 million over success based instalments somehow bankrupts us for future deals
not that we have any interest in the shite they're after like Stewart Downing and Charles Nzogbia in the first place, your welcome to em lads.They didn't lose Phil Jones, Phil Jones lost Liverpool.
It actually sounds like a parody of one of us pretending to be one of them.
Tactical vicory indeed. It is a cunning plan of Baldrick proportions.
Forget about Modric or Sneidjer lads, the scousers have 'illiminated' us from the transfer season. Not sure how they've done it as United are not paying any more for Jones than contractually obliged, but somehow they have.
I almost don't want Vidic to be available fot for the visit to anfield next season.
93rd minute, 0-0
Ashley Young corner and boom Phil Jones power header into the back of the net. Now that would be priceless.
93rd minute, 0-0
Ashley Young corner and boom Phil Jones power header into the back of the net. Now that would be priceless.
I would prefer a 3-4 nil thrashing.
And that would be different from the clause not existing how exactly?
It seems unlikely that such an utterly meaningless clause would be inserted into a contract.
You seem to be clinging to the hope that United have made a mistake just as much as the RAWKites.
There is an hilarity in a teams supporters who, rightly, boycott a tabloid newspaper for blatant lies clinging to another as if it was gospel.
Guys....hold your horses I just might have the quote of the year
Yes, the Andy Carroll who got 12 goals last year and the season before that was only the 3rd highest scorer in the championship.
Yes, the Andy Carroll who got 12 goals last year and the season before that was only the 3rd highest scorer in the championship.
They're so desperate to but us at anything, they're even celebrating this thing as their victory
Can't blame Venkys really. If they feel that the Jones is being undervalued (heard he signed a new contract only a year ago) and he is still legally Blackburn's player, then they've got every right to string every last penny they can out of a transfer fee for him.
I do agree with this - it's their job to get as good a deal as what they can so they should try and maximise their profit for Blackburn's sake. But if there is a release clause which has been met (which seems to be widely acknowledged in the media) they don't really have any leverage. It seems like when they were renewing his contract earlier this year they seriously misjudged the amount of interest Jones would generate from the big clubs. Now they have seen how much they could have gotten (i.e. Liverpool's mad bid of £22m) they are kicking themselves and trying everything to extract as much money out of us as what Liverpool would have theoretically paid.
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