So you could say we've conditioned them like [lab] rats... Excellent
RAWK Goes into Meltdown 2014/2015 - The "We go again" Edition
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) is joined by CEO Duncan Drasdo and Financial Director Andy Green from the Manchester United Supporters Trust for a special episode on all things behind the scenes at Old Trafford including a brief history of MUST and their aims today, views on INEOS and Sir Jim Ratcliffe so far, and the Old Trafford regeneration.
It's impossible for Sterling to have a bad game over at RAWK. When he does it's either Brentan or Roy's fault for making him tired. He's been tired for a whole month now it seems.
For a start, they have nowhere to discuss it!!
The scousers are really pinning their hopes on Sterling, he's their real suarez replacement but just can't carry it off, not a slight on him, he's got talent he needs support.
On mighty red.....
They really know how to hurt a guy, take that with your cold untied shoes!!
I hope the bastard gets his shoelaces wet and they come undone and it's really cold so he can't do them back up, the cock.
They really know how to hurt a guy, take that with your cold untied shoes!!
On Sterling
And Hodgson picked him for every one of those games. Every world cup game? 3 wasn't it?
And Hodgson picked him for every one of those games. Every world cup game? 3 wasn't it?
Good job he was sent of in the pre World Cup warm up, he'd be even more knackered now!
Sterling - 19 going on 39.
He should ask giggsy for advice.
He should ask giggsy for advice.
One of which was basically a training match.
So that's basically 12 matches in the 4 and a half months since June, who'd be a footballer huh, worked like little ponies down mines I tells ya!!
And of course it was such a long season last year which just the 40 games they had, compared to the 60 or so that the likes of us, Chelsea, arsenal, city, everton, Wigan and Spurs had!!
Their Roy Hodgson thread title is editorialized to "Roy Hodgson: an abject failure for England." The thread title sets the tone for discussion; if you substitute BR with "Dear Leader" and Hodgson with Obama, it probably won't look any different than a North Korean political forum.
We wished to shame them into silence, and in a weird way it's happened!
They've chosen to shut their forum down rather than accept reality.
How wonderful
"The forum that cannot be shut down is shut down automatically in response to an ontological terrorist incident. You ask for miracles, Theo, I give you the R-A-W-K."
Simple as clockwork.
Simple as clockwork.
An important warning
But that is all they are.
It's like saying for something to be good it must do it without the fundamental thing that makes it good.
LFC without over dramatic sentimentality is just another club, like Newcastle, or Spurs.
Then everybody really will stop taking notice of them.
Hate the weird and inexplicable attitude some(most of what I know) liverpool supporters have towards the Suarez-Evra incident.
Also know as racist.
I think we all know an otherwise sane minded Liverpool fan, who will still defend Suarez to the hilt in the Evra saga. One of my best mates, who is otherwise a very bright lad, still blames Evra for the whole thing. Unbelievable. Some things are bigger than football allegiances and one of those is definitely racism.
The only reasonable response from Suarez and Liverpool to that was a grovelling apology. It's still mind-boggling to me that they stood behind Suarez. Defending racist actions is racism in my book.
Agreed.
That's the problem with scouse fans, their loyalty to LFC comes before anything else. Just see how pathetic the scouse pundits are, completely unable to hide their bias when covering a game.
you can't put it down to football tribalism as United fans have hardly backed our players to the hilt when they've been idiotic
its a strange love they have - completely subjective and blind to decency
I didn't really mean fans in general. Liverpool fans are certainly in a league of their own when it comes to blind loyalty to their own.
They're simply unprofessional, butthurt old men.
From time to time maybe Jamie Redknapp will make an attempt and try to be neutral but that's pretty much all.
"No Dougal!....It wasn't funny when O Shea scored against Liverpool!....It was funny when he scored against Germany"
Exactly.
And not even a bleeding sad old after-the-fact apology forthcoming from that lot. Disgusting.
"No Dougal!....It wasn't funny when O Shea scored against Liverpool!....It was funny when he scored against Germany"
That reminds me of my fave, with father Furlong in the caravan.
'I'm going mad, Ted!'
It's because they're physically incapable of conceding that their side of it might not have been in the right of some dispute, and are instinctively compelled to blindly support their own, but they also know that there really can be no defending someone who still addresses people by the colour of their skin after living in northern Europe for five years.
This makes it impossible for them to be anything other than completely senseless about it, so most of them cherrypick the stance that lets then back their man while being a most incomprehensible concoction of arguments that somehow, to them, doesn't amount to justifying a twat who addresses black men by the colour of their skin in 2013 England, but still supporting said twat through the ordeal.
Needless to say, their argument ends up being barely coherent. Actual overt racism tends to be more plain and easily identifiable. Theirs isn't simple racism, it's a mentality where loyalty to one's club is more important than decency, and if it's a choice between being loyal to the club or being against racism, they choose the former, which can amount to racist behaviour in a sort of roundabout way.
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More mind blowing than the original racism, that's for sure.
I don't expect them to be any better when the overall behavior of the club was to support Suarez unconditionally. Also, providing him with legal support was one thing but they took it to unacceptable levels by backing him up in public and printing and wearing t-shirts in his support. Also, their manager at the time said that anybody who is accusing Suarez of anything (not shaking Evra's hand after the incident) is "bang out of order".
If that is what a player gets from the manager of a football club (which has a global presence) for reporting a racism incident against their player then what better do you expect from the fans of the said club? They are just simply following their leaders.
Also, someone rightly said in the posts above that just the fact that they subconsciously aligned their brains to automatically defend interests of their club ahead of general humanity is cringeworthy. And now they find pride in inserting references of this incident into everyday football discussion to elicit a laugh or two. No respect whatsoever for such cretins.
If that is what a player gets from the manager of a football club (which has a global presence) for reporting a racism incident against their player then what better do you expect from the fans of the said club? They are just simply following their leaders.
Also, someone rightly said in the posts above that just the fact that they subconsciously aligned their brains to automatically defend interests of their club ahead of general humanity is cringeworthy. And now they find pride in inserting references of this incident into everyday football discussion to elicit a laugh or two. No respect whatsoever for such cretins.
That is actually very well put. I've tried to articulate this before but you've completely nailed it here.
Indeed to both. But the difference here is that they do not believe that racism actually happened.
They're still champions of the anti racist sentiment though, looking at the way they jumped to the defense of Balotelli
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Re: This nonsense about Liverpool not being able to challenge again next season
« Reply #1001 on: October 6, 2014, 11:56:10 PM »
Quote from: Cid on October 6, 2014, 10:10:23 PM
If I have only one wish that I could put upon our transfer dealings going forward it would be that we never again sign some no-name player off the back of one season's good form. It has fecked us time and time again and we don't seem to learn from it.
This is so true. We do it at every level of transfer too, from the Aspas' to the Carroll's
Liverpool fans rewriting history, again... Every level of transfer... From Aspas to Carroll... They do realise they wasted £9m on Aspas right
I think what he means is that Aspas wasn't seen as a starting striker whereas Carroll was. Thus two different levels of transfers. They wasted money on both obviously.
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Re: This nonsense about Liverpool not being able to challenge again next season
« Reply #1001 on: October 6, 2014, 11:56:10 PM »
Quote from: Cid on October 6, 2014, 10:10:23 PM
If I have only one wish that I could put upon our transfer dealings going forward it would be that we never again sign some no-name player off the back of one season's good form. It has fecked us time and time again and we don't seem to learn from it.
This is so true. We do it at every level of transfer too, from the Aspas' to the Carroll's
Liverpool fans rewriting history, again... Every level of transfer... From Aspas to Carroll... They do realise they wasted £9m on Aspas right
From RAWK's Roy Hodgson thread
That's uncanny. It is indeed just like that.
Also the brass lied to the FA about what they said and heard, changing their initial story.
Some of them are so desperate to appear intellectual
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