Feel sorry for that South African fan. 39 seconds
RAWK Goes into Meltdown 2014/2015 - The "We go again" Edition
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Feel sorry for that South African fan. 39 seconds
This is a post about United presumably?
You sir, just took a good idea and made it better.
What? One of the first things I did after getting promoted was post RAWK quotes for free.
Also, do we really want to expose new posters to RAWK?
This of course in a match where one player was sent off and other is being charged for stamping.
Whilst another had to be held back by their own supporters.
Your efforts are great appreciated, little man. But obviously this is a job that requires an entire team.
As long as they volunteer for the job I'm fine with it, though it would be better if they already read RAWK for its comedy content.
In response to Skertl being charged...
Stay classy RAWK.
Dipper Dickhead said:
Stay classy RAWK.
Chortle.
"Taking a punt on youth" = "Pissing the Suarez money up the wall on bang-average no-marks"
Also when on earth did this happen?
Considering the largest part of the always the victim mentality is to do with Hillsborough (and considering they bloody well were victims) then it doesn't matter if it was fabricated by them or not.
It shouldn't be sang, neither the without killing anyone chant, murderers or whatever else. Sing about them being shite yeah but just steer clear of Hillsborough/Heysel and everything associated with it.
Amen to that. Well said.
My opinion remains unchanged. I do not think we disrespect the memory of Juve's fans in continuing to remind Liverpool of their despicable behaviour in that regard. Who other than Juve fans should really have a view that counts massively? Recent encounters suggest a lingering dissatisfaction with Liverpool's perpetual evasion of blame and inability to apologise.
This is not one set of fans rejoicing in the tragedy suffered by opposing fans and using it to mock them. (Like Munich and Hillsborough references). Eg the scouser who premeditated bringing the toy inflatable plane to that game. No Liverpool fans demonstrated with the odious cnt.
This is not one set of fans rejoicing in the tragedy suffered by opposing fans and using it to mock them. (Like Munich and Hillsborough references). Eg the scouser who premeditated bringing the toy inflatable plane to that game. No Liverpool fans demonstrated with the odious cnt.
What purpose does it serve to keep reminding people of it though? It won't make Liverpool fans apologise for it any more than it'll make the Juventus fans accept it. Just makes us lot look like cnuts and give them a reason to get their backs up and play the victim card against us. We've got literally feck all to do with what happened so why do we sing about it? Especially when for the last 20 odd years we've had plenty of other reasons to take the piss out of them.
The victim songs will forever be linked with Hillsbrough, the without killing anyone chants will forever be linked with Hillsbrough and many of our fans singing those songs know full well that they'll be linked to Hillsbrough to cause maximum damage to the Liverpool fans. We cannot and should not cry innocence about it, instead just stop fecking singing about it. We'd be exactly the same as them if the roles were reversed.
Always kills any happiness I have about playing them when the crowd starts chanting those type of songs.
Anyone who thinks the lines in 3 Times can refer to Hillsborough is either ignorant of history or fails to understand sequential sentences in English. Unless they are non-English speakers I therefore feel justified in ignoring any opinion they might have. IMO
Looked like De Gea pushed Skrtel away a couple of times, then put his hand on his shoulder/neck the 3rd time. Still looked more of a push than a grab, but De Gea has a fair reason to be angry. Skrtel's stamp was cowardly and malicious.
The fact that the deaths they're gleefully singing about to get a rise out of opposing fans are those of another team entirely makes it all better?
He also got mercenaries wrong too.
Dammit you're right.
The reason I'm sarcastic is so that I don't get something wrong. I'll stay quite now apart from mocking idiots in less subtle ways.
After he earlier scraped his studs down an oppositions players calf.
Did you mean quiet?
Handball isn't automatically a booking. It was the right decision to just give the free kick and nothing else.
It was hardly a game changing decision anyway given that it was the only remotely bookable thing Di Maria did.
Spot on.
Anyone who experienced Hillsborough, or Heysel, or any other football ground related tragedy I suspect would tell you what really matters in life - and it isn't football or having a go at rival fans.
Singing these kinds of songs is never justifiable, no matter how you dress it up.
At the end if the day football is just a game and I can never understand real hatred of opposition fans. Rivalry is fine, everyone loves a win over another big side, some more than others, but dragging it down to this level is idiocy.
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It still appears to me that such attacks on free speech are right only when some major imperative, probably a moral one like for racism, justifies that step. In this case the arguments are fundamentally about taste and what people's choices say about them.
I think that rejoicing in someone else's tragedy (Munich/Hillsborough references) is distasteful enough to provide strong motivation to prevent those songs.
I do not believe that reminding people of guilt and attempts at coverups (eg police in Sheffield) is ever wrong.
Ultimately, I am unsure what the precise reasoning might be to stop referring to Heysel wrt Liverpool. Because the arguments might collapse to the point that one can never draw attention to a guilty person's past. And that would make pursuing past injustices ( 96 & 39) rather difficult.
I think we need to recognise that in suggesting songs of which we disapprove should not be sung, we are advocating censorship.
It still appears to me that such attacks on free speech are right only when some major imperative, probably a moral one like for racism, justifies that step. In this case the arguments are fundamentally about taste and what people's choices say about them.
I think that rejoicing in someone else's tragedy (Munich/Hillsborough references) is distasteful enough to provide strong motivation to prevent those songs.
I do not believe that reminding people of guilt and attempts at coverups (eg police in Sheffield) is ever wrong.
Ultimately, I am unsure what the precise reasoning might be to stop referring to Heysel wrt Liverpool. Because the arguments might collapse to the point that one can never draw attention to a guilty person's past. And that would make pursuing past injustices ( 96 & 39) rather difficult.
Makes sense when you see Johno's post a while later:
Words of wisdom, couldn't agree more on that part.
There is not a cat in hells chance he is a United fan.
The only other thing he's posted in that thread since the win other than that has been to praise a Liverpool fan. Not one mention of the performance or anything remotely related to that. I'm surprised he hasn't slagged off van Gaal or praised Rodgers' tactical genius yet. It's tragic.
"How can they charge him and let Costa get away with his stamp? He should have gotten 6 games for each stamp, Skrtel should get zero.
I would tell the FA about the Rooney kick but that would no doubt get Mignolet a 3 game ban."
I would tell the FA about the Rooney kick but that would no doubt get Mignolet a 3 game ban."
You are a genius!
He doesn't even try to hide it... Isn't his avatar a picture of Shankly as well? Funny how people there actually believe him.
So close to a good post, but just lost it's way there.
Yeah, but he's seventy+ years old, and he doesn't know how to change the avatar. Which cannot be true considering that anyone who is able to create an account would be able to change the avatar.
Cantona called it in a thread. I had my doubts all the time, but with time passing, I am pretty convinced that he isn't a United fan. There is Stockholm syndrome, and there is being like him. Nowadays he doesn't even try to hide his pure hatred for United.
At least @Orc admitted it after being outed, but that guy takes the cake. Either he's a nutter or is in such deep-cover that he has become his adopted personality.
That's the biggest load of rubbish I've ever heard.
Talking about "guilt" - are you, as a United fans responsible for any of the chaos caused by United fans when hooliganism was rife in the game? Innocent fans beaten up or stabbed, property looted or shops smashed up in away days in Europe or in the UK? I suspect you'd think you weren't.
This isn't about "free speech" because its not about having an opinion or discussing an issue with any actual interest. It's about a lot of grown men, most of whom who I suspect couldn't tell you anything about the actual events of Heysel/Munich (or whatever) trying to get a rise from another group of similar morons.
It's not people having and expressing a view on a historical event - it's mindless mob mentality from people who should know better, and often (as with the Chelsea "fans" in Paris the other week) are all apologies when they get singled out for their behaviour.
This kind of thing is what's wrong with football. There's still racism, still hatred - all for absolutely nothing. It's sad and it puts me off taking my kids to see my team and that's a real shame.