It's almost as though common sense and the use of optics has gone out the window. Football, you gotta love it.
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Real Madrid v Liverpool build up
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It's almost as though common sense and the use of optics has gone out the window. Football, you gotta love it.
One more sleep then the party is on.
People were talking about why a big final like that shouldn't be given to a country they don't like because of violence. My point was that there is violence even in England.
@RedCurry Fair enough mate. Would have made a bit more sense if you had quoted what you were replying to, and yes mate there is violence everywhere. The whole world is full of fecking idiots.
Your argument is logical and all about enhancing the level of the comparisons, which I thank you for and may even use in the future, not backing your team up blindly like other people. Very good post.
May I just say though, even while using your kind of comparing technique, Real are still much better than pool, which I hope will take them to victory. We have seen what individual quality can do for a team’s prospects in a one off game.
I agree mate Madrid do have a much better team than Liverpool do and I certainly don't expect us to win, but I do hope we do of course and do not think that it's beyond the realm of all possibilities. I hope that Real turn up with the arrogance that their owners posses as I feel that this is probably our best chance, that and Salah against Marcelo as I feel if Real do have any weak links it's him and their Keeper.
Accurate simulation. It even has Ramos getting a red card.
If Madrid wins it, I'll play football in their kit for a month.
I just must borrow some Madrid kit.
I just must borrow some Madrid kit.
Manchester United fans are more nervous about this game than Real Madrid fans are. 
So a fourth flight has now been canceled. That's bad
You mean here or in general?Manchester United fans are more nervous about this game than Real Madrid fans are.
Beckham to Zidane: "Please beat Liverpool"
Neville is all of us.
That doesn't count. Because they didn't care about the game. Or something.
I hope Madrid wont give Salah too many chances to brake cause he'll punish them. The way they play he'll certainly have at least 2. On the other hand if you give Ronaldo the slightest chance to score he'll do it. And with Lovren in defense chances to Ronaldo are bound to happen.
Midfield should be the key and a midfield of Kroos and Modrić really should dominate the game, problem is Liverpool bypasses midfield easily most of the time and it's all about passing to forward players as soon as possible. Even if you hide the ball from them they'll wait their chance.
Midfield should be the key and a midfield of Kroos and Modrić really should dominate the game, problem is Liverpool bypasses midfield easily most of the time and it's all about passing to forward players as soon as possible. Even if you hide the ball from them they'll wait their chance.
I think it’s only fair to those fans that they cancel the final altogether this year.
It's true that they didn't really care and I very much doubt it would have panned out the same way if it was an important game but it showed they had problems against that type of team.
Tottenham scored an offside goal and deflected goal. Real Madrid's finishing was very poor during that time (especially Ronaldo).
For some reason that game is painted as Madrid being completely beaten into submission through pressing but it wasn't like that at all. Tottenham got a bit of luck for the goals and then played on the counter attack and punished Madrid for committing numbers forward.
In general.
Real fans are calm and confident. United fans are more nervous than them despite not being in the final.
Because Liverpool are the ultimate game-raisers.
That's not what happened though. Madrid barely had chances at all and the counters were happening from the start of the game, not just when Madrid were putting more people forward.
Tottenham bullied them through their pressing and then punished Madrid who had Nacho, Hakimi and Casilla starting. Madrid's midfield got completely outdone by Spurs' intensity and the midfield in the final will most likely be the exact same as that game. I don't think it will happen to the same extent but it is pretty obvious Liverpool match up perfectly against this Madrid team. They'll have their chances for sure.
in the end I think that Cristiano Bale and Isco are going to play, although I would play with Cris-Benzema-Isco.
I do not think Madrid will lose the match due to lack of intensity.
It is a final so what happened before has a relative importance. In the same way that last year Juventus was a defensive fortress and we scored 4.
From what I have read, Klopp's comments about Marcelo (although he did not say anything negative) have come to the dressing room as a lack of respect.
I think the midfield of Madrid will be the key. My only doubt is that City also had a great midfield...
I do not think Madrid will lose the match due to lack of intensity.
It is a final so what happened before has a relative importance. In the same way that last year Juventus was a defensive fortress and we scored 4.
From what I have read, Klopp's comments about Marcelo (although he did not say anything negative) have come to the dressing room as a lack of respect.
I think the midfield of Madrid will be the key. My only doubt is that City also had a great midfield...
Ok so is it fair to say that with their back line what it was supposed to be they will be stronger in defense.
Madrid were much worse earlier on in the season, and were fighting for top 4. But they showed their true level over the whole season.
So will Salah brake fast or not?
Was it really that bad? Madrid had 20 shots to Spurs 10 and 9 shots on target to Spurs 6.
In whatever case it doesn't matter because the difference in intensity is also a matter of fitness and motivation. I seriously see Madrid players in much better form now, and there is really no need to talk about motivation in a CL final
You should be as directed as possible imo.
No better than Madrid midfield though.
Its a final.
You don't have to be the best team on paper to win it.
Liverpool stand a massive chance tomorrow. And they have not chanced their way to the final either.
You don't have to be the best team on paper to win it.
Liverpool stand a massive chance tomorrow. And they have not chanced their way to the final either.
Was it really that bad? Madrid had 20 shots to Spurs 10 and 9 shots on target to Spurs 6.
In whatever case it doesn't matter because the difference in intensity is also a matter of fitness and motivation. I seriously see Madrid players in much better form now, and there is really no need to talk about motivation in a CL final
Yes, there is no doubt Madrid are favourites. It's just that Liverpool match up very well against you.
I cannot stomach 6 times la. Yeah, I'm worried, no shame in admitting that.
Really?? Cristiano scored only 4 goals the first half of the season, he wasn't scoring and failing all his chances (strange but he was) , in the second half lf the season he has scored almost 40 goals instead of 4. That makes a big difference.
We destroyed PSG in both games. We destroyed Juve also, in the 2nd game they didn't had a chance if it was not for the 2 gross mistakes of Keylor Navas, and in top of that Ramos wasn't playing but a 19 year old Vallejo.
Vs Bayern we got lucky, its true. Still he were much more efficient than them, and Bayern is 10 times a better and stronger team than Livepool.
Liverpool hasn't played anyone this UCL. The only supposedly good team they faced was City. Still a team that also hadn't played any good team this season in Europe. So thrashing all the EPL teams doesn't make them a top team, you have to win the top European teams.
And neither City or Liverpool have done that this season. This is the first time they face a top team in Europe, let's see how they cope with that...
Sensitive matter and delicate question: is Salah really fastening per his religious faith until 30 minutes before the match? I would be mad at this, as a fan. It could also be the very difference between winning and losing.
Thank you. Beating this City team the way we did shows what we are capable of. Regardless of the result I'm very proud of the boys.
You only destroyed your own judgement faculty, mate. It is years you and Barcelona simply rob other teams at the most crucial times in the CL. That said, good luck for tomorrow.
He scored 16 goals in the first half of the season and 28 in the second. And I wasn't saying you didn't improve in the second half of the season, I was saying you struggle when teams press you and can dominate physically and that was true both in the first half and in the second half of the season.
You got outplayed for 80 minutes at the Bernabeu against PSG and against Juve in Turin 11 against 11 they were the better team.
Bayern have not been that good this season, Liverpool are not a lot worse than them. I'm not sure who I'd back in a 2 leg tie. My point was the way they bothered you with their pressing though which is what tends to happen to this Madrid team. Against teams like Juve or Atleti you look better than against teams like Bayern or Spurs who manage to have a higher intensity than you. You're still favourites, they just match up well with you.
The way Juve fans talk about Madrid and Barcelona is the same way the rest of Serie A talk about Juve
They didn't rob anyone. Isco got robbed off a clean goal in the first half of the second leg and the penalty at the end was as clear as it gets.
Read that he was sticking to it yesterday, me thinking that’ll be bad for Liverpool.
Read today that he’s breaking it.
Bit daft for a professional athlete to be bothering with something like that.
How far is Zidane from being the greatest footballing person of all time if he wins tomorrow? World Cup winner, European Championship winner, CL winner, Seria A & La Liga winner... As a manager, La Liga winner, 3x CL winner (back to back), back to back club world cup winner.
All by the age of 45. Not sure about what older folks achieved as both players & later as managers as my general footballing knowledge isn't really up to par, but I'd say not even Dalglish comes close right now.
All by the age of 45. Not sure about what older folks achieved as both players & later as managers as my general footballing knowledge isn't really up to par, but I'd say not even Dalglish comes close right now.
I’ve been reading that some Madrid fans don’t want him as manager...crazy isn’t it?!
The feckers are going to do it aren't they....
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