That's actually a terrible article.
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That's actually a terrible article.
I've only just read about the bonfire chant in an article this morning so pardon me for entering this late. Why are the articles referencing it so recent btw? I don't recall the media reporting racial chants immediately after the match. Maybe the numbers involved were few but even so it is completely unacceptable, they should be outed and if as i assume members of the official supporters group, be expelled from it.
Ollie Holt had an article on it the day after.
I guess you have to understand the meaning behind the word "bonfire." I can only guess that it has something to do with a certain Guy Fawkes and how he was a traitor. Perhaps the England fans thought he was a traitor because he didn't want to fly out and play, but was happily enough being paid to commentate on the same match in Qatar. This is my theory anyway.
As far as I'm concerned, he has made his choice not to play because of a certain medical treatment that he has before each game so, why don't he just retire gracefully and let the young uns have their chance. He has been a brilliant defender, a legend, but he is too old for the international scene, especially with a bad back that could go at any time should he try to play 4-5 matches in one month. Suffice to say, should England get to the World Cup Final, and he has been selected to play in the group stages and the first knockout stage, there is no way he would be fit enough to play the final so, why not give the younger players a chance, since it would be a good experience for them.
Ok, what the feck has Anton got to do with that?
Anything to add??? As far as I am concerned, there was no racial overtones in that whatsoever. Rio complains about that and does a drama queen, but is happy to laugh at someone calling a fellow professional a "choc ice."
And he deserves abuse for that? Because Hodgson didn't want to talk on the phone before announcing the squad, United as a club only found out on the day of the announcement too.
Is it very possible that Hodgson knew what Sir Alex is like? I mean, we have a very important match this weekend. We need to beat Chelsea in the FA Cup, are we agreed on that? If so, Sir Alex needs every available player and no injuries so that he can pick his best XI. I can only guess that Hodgson was simply being crafty in giving Sir Alex no time to respond. What do you think?
As for the abuse, of course he doesn't deserve it, but sometimes our actions, just like the way we post, tweet or what have you leads to people calling us out for one thing or another. It happens all the time. England fans did go over the top with the chanting to be honest, and even though I am English, I won't be supporting them in the World Cup, I will be going for "Les Bleues!!!"
I think Hodgson's a fecking idiot, he can tell people on a tube what the situation is but he can't pick up a phone.
This whole thing is reminiscent of the communication problems Hodgson had at Liverpool; similarly he washed his hands of blame then too, and had his apologists.
I think everyone who has managed the England side apart from Sir Alf Ramsey and Sir Bobby Robson have been idiots to be honest. When England go out, I will be sitting outside a Paris bar with a nice glass of Guiness and with a big smile on my face.
I still fail to see why you don't make the connection that they are brothers.
If a song requires 2 people in it and Rio is the main one in question due to recent events, it would make sense for Anton to be the other, given there's no other adequate logical replacement.
Once again I reiterate I'm not defending the chants at all, just the idea their racist is a massive and unjust presumption.
I just found it funny - I don't think there's anything wrong you said. You had a good reasoned post, and I just thought AC's reply was funny.
Why not choose another song? It's not logical at all, I don't think it's outright racist but there are sinister undertones. I hope it's just football fans being spectacularly stupid as per usual.
Perhaps if he tweeted less and he might not have had this much heat. However, like Barton, when he tweets, he is inviting idiots to take the piss. If had kept a low profile like Paul Scholes then maybe, just maybe people might leave him alone. I would say exactly the same thing for Barton. If he stops using twitter and gets back to playing football then, he would not be having so many problems because of the things he comes out with. As the old quote goes:
""Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt."
Why not choose another song? It's not logical at all, I don't think it's outright racist but there are sinister undertones. I hope it's just football fans being spectacularly stupid as per usual.
I agree, but I am leaning towards the "traitor" side of things i.e. Guy Fawkes who tried to burn the Houses of Parliament. Apart from that, I cannot fathom how it can be racist. Where Anton fits into this I don't know, but laughing at a team mate being called a "choc ice", is not really called for either and he could be a "race traitor", which does exist.
That's exactly what I was thinking when I was reading that.
Oh really?
I see, thanks. I never heard about the racial angle earlier in the week, though Hold isn't a football writer i would seek out by choice.
Remember that he did initially say yes to the call-up, and that presumably in the full knowledge of his pre-planned rehab being on the schedule. Then his response to the natural confusion and disappointment, was a few defensive tweets and jetting off to Qatar to earn a few quid/foster his future media career.
On the other hand, i don't like the tone or inference of the bonfire chants in their inclusion of Anton one bit. Those involved are at best an advertisement for stupidity.
Nobody has a problem with Barton for what he says on twitter. It's just the man is an utter gobshit.
Mail are reporting that he has been offered a new deal.
And so he should be, he's been excellent.
I know it's the Daily Mail and I shouldn't expect much, but look at this shit. You can almost sense the delight from Neil Ashton writing about the abuse Rio got yesterday.
Christ, it almost sounds like Ashton was there leading the chants. Also, Terry is the big man who ''can take it - thriving in the hatred.'' But apparently the abuse will be on Rio's mind as he returned to Manchester. Really?
What a clown.
Christ, it almost sounds like Ashton was there leading the chants. Also, Terry is the big man who ''can take it - thriving in the hatred.'' But apparently the abuse will be on Rio's mind as he returned to Manchester. Really?
What a clown.
I still don't understand why paper's can't focus on the sustenance in an article and write it.
It paints a mental picture of a mutated sea creature trying to work out just how many people he can get fired up in the article.
Journalism ay? We'll have a revolution in about 20 years I think where all this pop garbage media will be overtaken by actual proper journalists who write nourishing pieces.
It paints a mental picture of a mutated sea creature trying to work out just how many people he can get fired up in the article.
Journalism ay? We'll have a revolution in about 20 years I think where all this pop garbage media will be overtaken by actual proper journalists who write nourishing pieces.
A bit dodgy today. Maybe it was as a result of 2 games quickly this week.
Hoof Man
Rio if you're reading this, please stop hoofing the ball forward ffs.
I thought it was one of his poorest performances this season, he never looked comfortable.
From manutd.com:
Wtf is this? He could easily play for another season or two, I really hope he will sign new one year contract soon.
Wtf is this? He could easily play for another season or two, I really hope he will sign new one year contract soon.
He's being excellent this season, one of our best five players all campaign, hope he signs that year extension.
I would be amazed if he didn't.
I'm certain that he'll sign on, seems to be enjoying his football here.
Our young and talented CBs have much to learn from him yet so I hope he stays one more season
Still one of the best centerback in the world. It's just amazing, considering his age and his acute back problem.
He's gonna sign an extension. Good news.
Rio Ferdinand to sign new one-year contract with Manchester United
Still has a lot to offer the club, both on the pitch and with the younger players. Class act.
Speaking of Rio:
I swear my first thought was:"Nani, who else?". After an hour he wrote this:
I swear my first thought was:"Nani, who else?". After an hour he wrote this:
the best United performance of the season was probably Rio against Liverpool. Can't remember if it was home or away though.
Probably away. He was brilliant that day, kept Suarez pretty much silent.