L'equipe saying discussions being held with Chinese clubs. The chicken wants the easy way out again.
Rothen: Di Maria's PSG form affected by poor attitude
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Thank god he didn't want to continue at United. If true, we really don't need this kind of attitude at the club.
We are going to be very annoyed at the amount of profit PSG will make selling him to China, aren't we?
Good on LvG to get rid of him at least and recouping almost all of the money back.
We are going to be very annoyed at the amount of profit PSG will make selling him to China, aren't we?
Maybe we put a sell on clause in when we sold him to PSG
Doubt it
When it comes to selling stars, Florentino Perez isn't a genius but right now he's actually having a laugh selling this snake.
PSG are such a poorly run club.
Maybe we put a sell on clause in when we sold him to PSG
Doubt it
You're almost certainly right though
If that weasel thought Manchester was too much of a culture shock, can't wait till he gets to China.
I think the only manager he consistently performed under is Ancelotti. He needed a good man manager to get the best out of him, under fergie he would have done better than he did under Van gaal. Such a shame about attitude though.
He was great in his first season under Mou, then his form yoyo'd until the end of Jose's time there.
Agreed that a master man manager like Fergie would've turned him to a BDO winner.
Let's say ADM is not a leader on the pitch, just a good soldier whose performances are better when there is a Cr7, a Zlatan...
On the other hand, LVG was very creative regarding his positioning in Manchester
Be sure he won't leave the club this winter.
He wasn't even that consistent under Ancelotti. He had a good streak of form in the CL but his League form wasn't the best. He's been living off that finals goal for years now.
He might not have been great in every game that season, but he was great in pretty much every big game. We should give him that much at least. Also, actually, wasn't he great last season for PSG? Or had these problems already started?
Very un-argie.
LVGs transfers look more ill planned by the day, and actually hint at him being reckless and a tad delusional. That said, he did a good job in terms of introducing the cream of the crop in our youth and reserve teams, even if he did stumble upon rashford in an uncalculated fashion. Not to mention bringing in Martial who I still consider to be a fantastic signing for our future.
They won't get more than £10m margin if that. They actually paid us £45m for him which I still maintain was a terrific price for a complete failure of a signing (we actually only made a £7m loss).We are going to be very annoyed at the amount of profit PSG will make selling him to China, aren't we?
Fergie would not have made him my better, Fergie thrived on players with character, that's why he didn't buy any player like AdM, look at Nani, he never really flourished under Fergie and he has a much better mentality than AdM.
Fergie was a great man but you can only help players with the will to win and the will to improve as a player and as a person, AdM displays neither of those qualities.
Fergie was a great man but you can only help players with the will to win and the will to improve as a player and as a person, AdM displays neither of those qualities.
Didn't we pay £59m for him? Or was that made-up of instalments and bonuses, etc that he never reached?
Nani flourished for very long periods and was regularly the top dog in the league for assists over the course of a season a couple of times, his inconsistency was actually just becoming shite in later years, there was a solid period when he was great, it wasn't one game shining, one game off it like its implied on here.
He had one season, where he was great yes, but he's not shite, hes a good player, just not got the character or drive to apply himself to keep himself at that level, and that was with Fergie managing him, you kind of made my point, Fergie couldn't get Nani to perform consistently, he'd have seen AdM was a list cause and never would have touched him.
Its pretty much the nature of a winger, or even wide forwards. Very very few are ever completely consistent. Take this season for instance both Neymar and Thomas Muller players who would be in a top ten best in the world are up to absolutely nothing. Mahrez the premier leagues best player last season up to nothing. Hazard one of the best but last season incredibly poor. Not many at all can stay at the top level fully consistently. Although Di Maria is a particular example of a player who is just blatantly a soft touch.
True, but Nani wasn't inconsistent, he was very poor, Hazard will never be sold to Turkey in gis prime for example, and AdM isn't really an out and out winger.
Not sure what exactly we're debating here anyway, are you saying Fergie would have made AdM into a much better player?
I don't think any club pays everything up front anymore.
I think Fergie tried to get ADM when he was at Benfica but he chose to go to Real.
Anyway, Fergie might have turned him into a better player if given the opportunity. Fergie is good at sheltering players and giving them time to flourish. However, there are also times when players don't flourish under Fergie and nothing is a dead cert. At the end of the day, there must be mutual trust between the player and the manager, like Fergie with Ronaldo. If a player is unsettled, as was the case for ADM, then I suspect even Fergie would not be able to do much about it.
Yeah, and at that time I think it was said AdM was a United fan, something's change,, hes never been consistent, he had maybe 18 months where he was great, but then he was surrounded by Ronaldo, Bale etc
Fergie was also known to scout a player intensely too, not just his playing ability but his mentality and his personal life, maybe we didn't make a move for him because Fergie seen something he didn't like.
http://m.sportzwiki.com/football/lo...sg-job-man-united-fans-cant-control-emotions/
Hilarious if this comes to pass...
Hilarious if this comes to pass...
Did he almost get burgled in Paris too then?
Let's say ADM is not a leader on the pitch, just a good soldier whose performances are better when there is a Cr7, a Zlatan...
On the other hand, LVG was very creative regarding his positioning in Manchester
Be sure he won't leave the club this winter.
This is a myth. At United he almost always played on the wing or as an AM. He had maybe a game where we checked his ability as a striker in a front 2. He had often played as a winger in RM benefica. He wasn't really played 'out of position'
Hindsight is 20/20 though. Our transfer activity in the summer of 2015 must be regarded as failure of historical proportions, yet at the time, it seemed to make sense: Schneiderlin was the Carrick-replacement we'd been waiting for; Depay, the dynamic young winger we'd been missing since Ronaldo; Darmian, the long-awaited 'proper' leftback; and Schweinsteiger, the decorated leader, albeit one carrying an injury risk. The fact that none of those 4 has worked out doesn't strike me as the product of ill-planning (they all seemed to fill a need
they've just been epic failures.The season before saw us bring in Herrera, Blind and Shaw, all logical signings, Di Maria, the supposed 'galactico' injection of class, and Falcao, a signing that most saw as a coup at the time. Rojo, who ironically is starting to look quite useful, struck me as a puzzling signing at the time. While this group has been more successful on the whole than the 4 mentioned above, you'd still have to say it was a pretty underwhelming. Yet, I can't say that lack of planning appears to be the reason. I think the real problem was that LVG, the overly-fussy tactician, got in the way of LVG, the fairly astute spotter of transfer needs. So maybe the lack of planning was more in LVG's tactics than in his transfers.
My God, this post is getting convoluted....
Not at all no, I'm just a Nani fan, I was contesting the inconsistency point you were making but it seems you weren't really making that point, its just a wording thing. I agree with you fergie wouldn't go for ADM to be honest for all the talent he undoubtedly does have, he doesn't have enough for a manager of a top club to bend over backwards for him. This will be the third club in four years to let him go with little fuss and its certainly not because he isn't talented enough.
Unpopular opinion and I'm gonna get slated for this, but I'd actually love to see him back at United.
He would be immense under Jose.
He would be immense under Jose.
Nani was a great player for us. Not sure where this stigma comes from.
Considering he was the engine of that team Im not sure. Wasnt he sold to make way for Hamez? Ironic that he is looking like he is leaving RM too.
Dont get the Nani comparison. He did and won plenty with us.
If you think Ozil isn't because he isn't good defensive then there is nothing to discuss.
Ah, the famous 100% effort Ozil-pressing.
Expecting him to press and run like mad man is a mistake, he never did at Madrid and wont at Arsenal.
It'd be funny if he moved to China of all places.
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