Russian invasion of Ukraine | Fewer tweets, more discussion
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It was always going to lead to one once started there can’t be a special and limited coup operation (SLCO) like Putin wanted with Ukraine.
Is Putin going to be willing to launch serious strikes within Russia is the question. Given he's mobilised a reluctant civilian population you can imagine many won't oppose Wagner on the ground.
someone posted a twitter list of good sources earlier. Anyone have that link again?
If anyone overthrows Putin, he will certainly stop the war in Ukraine and blame everything on Putin.
China to send in peacekeeping forces?
Knowing how that went on the last time they did that (South Sudan, 2016), oof!
Looks like there is no way back now.
Pity because I preferred the prospect of angry veterans and angry mothers of dead soldiers leading mass protests to change the course of this conflict.
Today it will be clearer how much support Prigozhin actually has inside Russia. But the longer this goes on, the better it gets for Putin. Prigozhin needs to keep up the pressure and continue towards Moscow as long as Russia's forces are still reluctant to engage Wagner.
Putin might not launch nukes against foreign nations, but, Wagner could become a real threat to him, certainly can't rule it out for this scenario.
Wonder what the world will say then, he would only be attacking his own country, words of condemnation, nothing more?
Wonder what the world will say then, he would only be attacking his own country, words of condemnation, nothing more?
Oh dear! John Ludden (writer and big United fan) just put this. 
The comments as well though.
The comments as well though.
I’m pretty sure you can rule out Russia nuking itself
If Wagner aims for Moscow, no, i wouldn't rule it out.
Funnily enough, y'all are one of the few teams that won a series against us thus far!
Where are Putin's special forces? I thought a plane went to Rostov, did they get lost or smth?
Oh, for god's sake, forget the nukes. It's just bullshit. Nobody will launch nukes.
For what it's worth, there is a sizeable Russian military presence in Ukraine that Putin could use to defeat Wagner. But that would mean leaving Ukraine.
Remarkable stuff.
Remarkable stuff.
Interesting to see who else comes out of the woodwork now. Putin has a long list of enemies both inside and outside the country, and they’ll likely never get a better opportunity to make a move than right now. Russian forces under pressure in Ukraine due to the counteroffensive, and internal turmoil with a military coup attempt. The scene is set.
Correction it's a special military operation to liberate Russia.
Trying to get into position for an assassination attempt I'd imagine.
Might be a stupid question at this point of the conflict, but: How does someone like me differentiate wagner groups in something like that from ordinary russian troops?
Russia denazifying itself.
So Wagner forces are in control of Voronezh?
That's a very nice summing up.
I would add though that Putin is probably slightly deranged.
It's not a stupid question, and I'd take with a pinch of salt anyone who says they definitively can.
When do we think the fighting starts?
My first thought was exactly this - What are 25,000 or 50,000 troops going to do against planes in the sky?
Doubt the oligarchy would run if it wasn't plausible that this attempt may actually succeed.
Shoot them with various types of SAMs
Well presumably try to shoot them down. You need a lot of missiles to take out 25,000 trained and armoured troops I should think.
Going by the state of the Russian supplies, I’d be surprised if they’re flight-worthy. Would likely just detonate as soon as some rusty bit caves in and thus obliterating the user.
They know they’re in shite condition. Agree that no nukes will be used.
Could be quite normal for two private jets to be flying to Turkey on a weekend?
People going about their daily business while soldiers position themselves for potential battle brings back memories.
Pinch of salt or bucket load?
Seems to be very little traffic in moscow (it's noon there):