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More sanctions!

Makes me laugh, I watched the Russian YouTube channel someone linked a couple of days ago on here, when asked if the sanctions are affecting them 95% of random people on the street said no.

Russia basically has carte blanche to do whatever it wants in Ukraine, short of using nukes, given than no one will intervene militarily.

and the other 5% were never seen again :lol:
 


My personal belief is that clearly Putin has no regard for lives, not even those of his own people - beyond their value to strategic calculations - and that his motto is: if I can, I will.

So unfortunately what Kasparov writes (and has for years) makes a lot of sense to me. Of course I also understand the counter argument of the risk of escalation, but how does that approach actually play out? Putin's army keeps killing, but only in the tens or hundreds of thousands and then at some point they just pack it in?

Is that really more likely than the Russians escalating the brutality further and further until they have finally gone too far? Especially considering what seems to be done against Mariupol?
 
These aren't necessarily desirable outcomes for a number of Russians though. Significant parts of Russian society, especially in the east, are strongly nationalist, distrustful of the western world and broadly supportive of an isolationist and a strongly anti western government.

Putin is a product of this, not the cause.

Never underestimate his popularity.
Russia surely has their “Fox News” style conservatives, as well as their “Trump style” true believers, who will embrace any illogical contradiction in defense of their “team”.
 
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Russia surely had their “Fox News” style conservatives, as well as their “Trump style” true believers, who will embrace any illogical contradiction in defense of their “team”.

The majority of mainstream Russian media is heavily state influenced, there are of course exceptions but in the main, the print and broadcast journalism isn't very nuanced.

You're right though, some people are naturally more open minded than others, but you have to remember that anti-western resentment is decades, if not centuries old and runs very deeply.
 


My personal belief is that clearly Putin has no regard for lives, not even those of his own people - beyond their value to strategic calculations - and that his motto is: if I can, I will.

So unfortunately what Kasparov writes (and has for years) makes a lot of sense to me. Of course I also understand the counter argument of the risk of escalation, but how does that approach actually play out? Putin's army keeps killing, but only in the tens or hundreds of thousands and then at some point they just pack it in?

Is that really more likely than the Russians escalating the brutality further and further until they have finally gone too far? Especially considering what seems to be done against Mariupol?


The US did pretty well in the Cold War funneling weapons and money to anyone willing to fight the Russians outside Russia. I expect the West is looking at who will be next on Putin’s list and preparing the groundwork for resistance, both with the government and the population.

Kazakhstan just had an attempt at Revolution, might be a good place to start. The west can out-spend Putin, so it might be best to push everywhere at once. Especially as Putin has the issue of wanting to manage everything himself, he can’t rely on anyone, I wouldn’t think. If he’s smart there’s no one in his close circle who thinks they have what it takes to do Putin’s job, and need him to stay in power themselves.
 
The majority of mainstream Russian media is heavily state influenced, there are of course exceptions but in the main, the print and broadcast journalism isn't very nuanced.

You're right though, some people are naturally more open minded than others, but you have to remember that anti-western resentment is decades, if not centuries old and runs very deeply.
What about the resentment for their own Secret Police and KGB/FSB style thought police? They haven’t had enough of authoritarian propaganda? I’d think they would know better than anyone. Or did most not want the USSR to collapse? I always got the impression the people were fed up, or was it just about money?
 
These aren't necessarily desirable outcomes for a number of Russians though. Significant parts of Russian society, especially in the east, are strongly nationalist, distrustful of the western world and broadly supportive of an isolationist and a strongly anti western government.

Putin is a product of this, not the cause.

Never underestimate his popularity.

So perhaps the best thing for all concerned is for Russia to become another North Korea?

Let them isolate themselves and keep them as separate as possible from the Global Economy.

It would be a shame for intelligent, progressive Russians, but the safety of the World can’t keep being compromised for the madness that Putin / Russia’s policies are increasingly showing.
 


My personal belief is that clearly Putin has no regard for lives, not even those of his own people - beyond their value to strategic calculations - and that his motto is: if I can, I will.

So unfortunately what Kasparov writes (and has for years) makes a lot of sense to me. Of course I also understand the counter argument of the risk of escalation, but how does that approach actually play out? Putin's army keeps killing, but only in the tens or hundreds of thousands and then at some point they just pack it in?

Is that really more likely than the Russians escalating the brutality further and further until they have finally gone too far? Especially considering what seems to be done against Mariupol?


So far Russia keeps drawing red lines in this conflict, that will escalate the conflict with NATO. NATO keeps backing off, backing off and Putin is emboldened to redraw the red line further and further.
NATO needs somebody, who is not afraid to be proactive, and draw their own lines, make their rules that Russia should fear overstepping. Western Ukraine (maybe Lviv region) should be no fly zone to allow civilians a safe passage. Idk what they can impose, but any tampering with nuclear power plants should be met with a strong response instead of expressions of concern.
 
Got off light thankfully…


There’s a possibility that it’s not the end. This one was for the video that she had recorded beforehand, urging people to protest, which is an administrative case (not criminal, I’m not sure if that distinction exists in British jurisdiction).

There’s still a high possibility of them opening a criminal case against her for this new law of defamation of the Russian military & spreading lies about the special operation.
 
I watched North Korean YouTube the other day and 99.99% said Kim was doing a fantastic job.

NK survey of 1000 Pyongyang Residents.

Q1. Are you happy that you are not dead from a war?
Yes or No

Q2. Who makes the key decisions in your life?
Kim or Elvis?


Survey Conclusion: 99.99% are happy with the Dear Leader's job performance.
And apparently there is one Elvis fan in Pyongyang.
 
NK survey of 1000 Pyongyang Residents.

Q1. Are you happy that you are not dead from a war?
Yes or No

Q2. Who makes the key decisions in your life?
Kim or Elvis?


Survey Conclusion: 99.99% are happy with the Dear Leader's job performance.
And apparently there is one Elvis fan in Pyongyang.
Last seen playing with an anti-aircraft gun.
 
So perhaps the best thing for all concerned is for Russia to become another North Korea?

Let them isolate themselves and keep them as separate as possible from the Global Economy.

It would be a shame for intelligent, progressive Russians, but the safety of the World can’t keep being compromised for the madness that Putin / Russia’s policies are increasingly showing.

I didn't say that being isolationist is in their best interest, I said that there are large sections of their society who believe it the most desirable option.
 


My personal belief is that clearly Putin has no regard for lives, not even those of his own people - beyond their value to strategic calculations - and that his motto is: if I can, I will.

So unfortunately what Kasparov writes (and has for years) makes a lot of sense to me. Of course I also understand the counter argument of the risk of escalation, but how does that approach actually play out? Putin's army keeps killing, but only in the tens or hundreds of thousands and then at some point they just pack it in?

Is that really more likely than the Russians escalating the brutality further and further until they have finally gone too far? Especially considering what seems to be done against Mariupol?


In maybe 3 weeks from now, if the war is still continuing, the Russian army in Ukraine will be totally fecked .
 
So far Russia keeps drawing red lines in this conflict, that will escalate the conflict with NATO. NATO keeps backing off, backing off and Putin is emboldened to redraw the red line further and further.
NATO needs somebody, who is not afraid to be proactive, and draw their own lines, make their rules that Russia should fear overstepping. Western Ukraine (maybe Lviv region) should be no fly zone to allow civilians a safe passage. Idk what they can impose, but any tampering with nuclear power plants should be met with a strong response instead of expressions of concern.
We don't have to. The longer this goes on, the more Russia is likely to lose. There is no need to get into escalation games with Putin. The aim should be to deny him tactical options, and contain him, not engage and open space up for him.
 
United with a dire loss and now Russia is seemingly starting amphibious assualts in the vicinity of Odesa. What a fecking night.
 
We don't have to. The longer this goes on, the more Russia is likely to lose. There is no need to get into escalation games with Putin. The aim should be to deny him tactical options, and contain him, not engage and open space up for him.

Yeap. Bleed him out and bleed him dry resources wise. Then let nature takes its course within the walls of the Kremlin.
 
We don't have to. The longer this goes on, the more Russia is likely to lose. There is no need to get into escalation games with Putin. The aim should be to deny him tactical options, and contain him, not engage and open space up for him.

Yep.
 
We don't have to. The longer this goes on, the more Russia is likely to lose. There is no need to get into escalation games with Putin. The aim should be to deny him tactical options, and contain him, not engage and open space up for him.
It will be messy, but a prolonged conflict will potentially ensure a loss for Russia. Keep targeting their softer targets like fuel & supply trucks & the war will be won through attrition.
 
Interesting given it's only about €260.
Any chance that the judiciary will refuse to support Putin?

A couple of russian twitter accounts I follow think that the fine is for the video message. She will be looking at 5-10 years for storming the news broadcast afaik.

And if you think the judiciary will refuse to support Putin, check out Navalny's court hearing from today. The judge took 3-4 breaks to call the president administration during the process.
 
A couple of russian twitter accounts I follow think that the fine is for the video message. She will be looking at 5-10 years for storming the news broadcast afaik.

And if you think the judiciary will refuse to support Putin, check out Navalny's court hearing from today. The judge took 3-4 breaks to call the president administration during the process.
Is that officially what happened or just a suspicion?

Although I'm sure the judge presiding over a high profile case like Navalny answers directly to Putin, I could still imagine that in less important cases involving protestors there might be more room to judge leniently.. even if it's unlikely.
 
Is that officially what happened or just a suspicion?

Although I'm sure the judge presiding over a high profile case like Navalny answers directly to Putin, I could still imagine that in less important cases involving protestors there might be more room to judge leniently.. even if it's unlikely.



 
:lol: Did you know Alexander Wendt is super into aliens?



Yes, he went a bit off the rails with his Quantum book and subsequent talk of Aliens. Why a world state is inevitable is imo the most important piece in IR since Waltz's dissertation in the late 50s. It will be remembered 100 years from now as the political theory piece that predicted the future of the world all the way back in 2002.