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Finnish volunteers in Ukraine.

Are you sure? Most of the photos I've seen even of foreign fighters you see them with AK rifles, presumably because it is the ammunition they can more easily get resupplied of. Here they're all carrying M4/M16 style rifles.
 
I decided to waste some time by looking into the supposed funding of the Russian war machine. I did it by looking at imports of "Mineral fuels, oils, distillation products" according to the United Nations COMTRADE database, adjusted for population sourced from a simple Google search, meaning it's per capita. The results are normalised, with the Big Bad Germany as 1. Countries included are EU members, EFTA members (excluding Lichtenstein because of lack of data), and a few other countries that are relevant either because of proximity or as world players. (Edit: I did not include countries friendly to Russia, like Belarus, Serbia, China or India. Turkey is borderline, I guess.)

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If nukes are used in Ukraine, especially in the West, I think NATO will close the sky.

I really doubt it.

The more I review this the more it seems like a film I watched recently called don’t look up.
 
Are you sure? Most of the photos I've seen even of foreign fighters you see them with AK rifles, presumably because it is the ammunition they can more easily get resupplied of. Here they're all carrying M4/M16 style rifles.
The guy who posted it did his concript service at the same base as me and I know for a fact that he is in Ukraine right now. He has posted photos of himself too with an M4 rifle.
 
It is what it is. Could be better for sure, but it's something.

So nice when someone says it is what it is when someone is being fecked over. And you were eeling insulted. Amazing

And thats the key. Zelensky called out the "it is what it is" policy of germany to oppose to everything proposed by other countries of the west and to initial reluctantcy to help with arms.

Thanks to that pressure, the "it is what it is" is less of that
 
So nice when someone says it is what it is when someone is being fecked over. And you were eeling insulted. Amazing

And thats the key. Zelensky called out the "it is what it is" policy of germany to oppose to everything proposed by other countries of the west and to initial reluctantcy to help with arms.

Thanks to that pressure, the "it is what it is" is less of that
You do know that @stefan92 doesn't personally run Germany, right? And has said many times over that he doesn't agree with the decisions made Germany's government, blaming that primarily on the SPD?

Cause you seem to say here that it's his apathy that bothers you.
 
So nice when someone says it is what it is when someone is being fecked over. And you were eeling insulted. Amazing

And thats the key. Zelensky called out the "it is what it is" policy of germany to oppose to everything proposed by other countries of the west and to initial reluctantcy to help with arms.

Thanks to that pressure, the "it is what it is" is less of that

I don't think this is true. Outside of Germany, possibly Ukraine, and people f5ing threads like these, no one gives a feck about what Zelensky or Melnyk has to say about Germany or Steinmeier. This back-and-forth impacts the relations between Ukraine and Germany, probably nothing else.
 
I decided to waste some time by looking into the supposed funding of the Russian war machine. I did it by looking at imports of "Mineral fuels, oils, distillation products" according to the United Nations COMTRADE database, adjusted for population sourced from a simple Google search, meaning it's per capita. The results are normalised, with the Big Bad Germany as 1. Countries included are EU members, EFTA members (excluding Lichtenstein because of lack of data), and a few other countries that are relevant either because of proximity or as world players. (Edit: I did not include countries friendly to Russia, like Belarus, Serbia, China or India. Turkey is borderline, I guess.)

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Interesting, can you also list the total import figures for reference?
 
Interesting, can you also list the total import figures for reference?

Surprisingly that's more annoying than just energy, but give me a little while and I'll look into it. It'll probably feck up the UK the most because of all the financial services, but on the other hand that's pretty easy to cut down compared to energy.
 
The guy who posted it did his concript service at the same base as me and I know for a fact that he is in Ukraine right now. He has posted photos of himself too with an M4 rifle.
Got it. Best of luck to them, brave guys for sure.
 
I decided to waste some time by looking into the supposed funding of the Russian war machine. I did it by looking at imports of "Mineral fuels, oils, distillation products" according to the United Nations COMTRADE database, adjusted for population sourced from a simple Google search, meaning it's per capita. The results are normalised, with the Big Bad Germany as 1. Countries included are EU members, EFTA members (excluding Lichtenstein because of lack of data), and a few other countries that are relevant either because of proximity or as world players. (Edit: I did not include countries friendly to Russia, like Belarus, Serbia, China or India. Turkey is borderline, I guess.)

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Unclear how Norway is even a third as big an importer as Germany per capita, if Germany gets a significant amount of their energy from Russia. We're a a massive oil/gas exporter. I can only imagine it's importing electricity when it's cheap, but even then that seems like a lot.
 
I decided to waste some time by looking into the supposed funding of the Russian war machine. I did it by looking at imports of "Mineral fuels, oils, distillation products" according to the United Nations COMTRADE database, adjusted for population sourced from a simple Google search, meaning it's per capita. The results are normalised, with the Big Bad Germany as 1. Countries included are EU members, EFTA members (excluding Lichtenstein because of lack of data), and a few other countries that are relevant either because of proximity or as world players. (Edit: I did not include countries friendly to Russia, like Belarus, Serbia, China or India. Turkey is borderline, I guess.)

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What's the timeframe?
 
It's remarkable how much intel the US had. As if they were a fly on the wall in the Russian war room. They got it absolutely spot on.

 
Surprisingly that's more annoying than just energy, but give me a little while and I'll look into it. It'll probably feck up the UK the most because of all the financial services, but on the other hand that's pretty easy to cut down compared to energy.

Sorry I just meant the Monetary figures you were working off, but overall imports would also be pretty interesting!
 
Unclear how Norway is even a third as big an importer as Germany per capita, if Germany gets a significant amount of their energy from Russia. We're a a massive oil/gas exporter. I can only imagine it's importing electricity when it's cheap, but even then that seems like a lot.

Yeah. Surprisingly it's not even gas, it's refined petroleum that's the big one. Then crude, calcium phosphates and gas. Interestingly, rapeseed oil is 15 % of total imports, as much as refined petroleum.
What's the timeframe?

2021.
 
It's remarkable how much intel the US had. As if they were a fly on the wall in the Russian war room. They got it absolutely spot on.


I was just reading this. I didn’t realize how pivotal US intel was in the Battle of Kyiv, especially the critical early stages of it at the airport.

Is this the first official confirmation of the IL-76 transport plane being shot down?
 
I was just reading this. I didn’t realize how pivotal US intel was in the Battle of Kyiv, especially the critical early stages of it at the airport.

Is this the first official confirmation of the IL-76 transport plane being shot down?
I think so too, US officials had previously been hush hush about those plane shoot downs, to the point where I started to think it was a false claim.

Also to note that the US essentially tried to use this penetration of the Russian govt as a sort of deterrence for Russia not to invade. As a recent WaPo article on Sec Austin reported, he told Minister Shoygu that "he knew what they were up to" in terms of intent to invade. The Russian govt didn't make the connection that the US knew both the intentions and the plan, big mistake.
 
I think so too, US officials had previously been hush hush about those plane shoot downs, to the point where I started to think it was a false claim.

Also to note that the US essentially tried to use this penetration of the Russian govt as a sort of deterrence for Russia not to invade. As a recent WaPo article on Sec Austin reported, he told Minister Shoygu that "he knew what they were up to" in terms of intent to invade. The Russian govt didn't make the connection that the US knew both the intentions and the plan, big mistake.
And the NYT reported weeks ago that the US even went to China and asked them for help to convince Russia to cancel the invasion plans.

(Or something to that extent)
 
Im so sick of reading the Germany rethoric. Unless there is new news, then please leave it be its so fecking tiring.
May I present some news from Germany? ;)

https://www.welt.de/politik/deutsch...elembargo-gegen-Russland-fuer-handhabbar.html

Short summary: Germany imported 35% of its oil from Russia when the war started, we are now down to 12%. These 12% are caused by the refinery in Schwedt (close to the Polish border), that is connected to the Druzhba-pipeline and owned by Russian company Rosneft (so it doesn't really have interest in getting rid of Russian oil as such). There are discussions ongoing how to deal with this situations, but the key takeway in the title is: Habeck (who is our economy minister) believes an embargo for Russian oil is possible now.
 
May I present some news from Germany? ;)

https://www.welt.de/politik/deutsch...elembargo-gegen-Russland-fuer-handhabbar.html

Short summary: Germany imported 35% of its oil from Russia when the war started, we are now down to 12%. These 12% are caused by the refinery in Schwedt (close to the Polish border), that is connected to the Druzhba-pipeline and owned by Russian company Rosneft (so it doesn't really have interest in getting rid of Russian oil as such). There are discussions ongoing how to deal with this situations, but the key takeway in the title is: Habeck (who is our economy minister) believes an embargo for Russian oil is possible now.

Looking good, I take it you saw this?:
 
Looking good, I take it you saw this?:

It's the same news, both refer to Habeck's press conference today.

But your post clarifies nicely how the Druzhba pipeline could be filled with oil once Russian oil isn't pumped through it anymore.
 
It's the same news, both refer to Habeck's press conference today.

But your post clarifies nicely how the Druzhba pipeline could be filled with oil once Russian oil isn't pumped through it anymore.

Right, i see which refinary he is talking about. I take it that Rosneft has no say on what flows through the pipeline in Polish territory from Gdansk.
 
Does this mean Russia have made a deal with someone else? Or are they just gonna hoard gas/temporarily stop production?

Probably just getting ahead of things so they can pretend its their decision.
 
I decided to waste some time by looking into the supposed funding of the Russian war machine. I did it by looking at imports of "Mineral fuels, oils, distillation products" according to the United Nations COMTRADE database, adjusted for population sourced from a simple Google search, meaning it's per capita. The results are normalised, with the Big Bad Germany as 1. Countries included are EU members, EFTA members (excluding Lichtenstein because of lack of data), and a few other countries that are relevant either because of proximity or as world players. (Edit: I did not include countries friendly to Russia, like Belarus, Serbia, China or India. Turkey is borderline, I guess.)

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What about gas? Or is that included in distillation products?
 
You do know that @stefan92 doesn't personally run Germany, right? And has said many times over that he doesn't agree with the decisions made Germany's government, blaming that primarily on the SPD?

Cause you seem to say here that it's his apathy that bothers you.

The main point that we are discussing is not the apathy (secondary point). The main point is that he claimed zelensky insulted germans(among them him) when he didnt invite Steinmeier. And i am of tge opinion that this claim is more insulting for ukrainians as Germany had been dragging its feet to protect "just" the economy when ukraine is fighting fotlr suvival.

Then it branched out
 
What a waste of time. Guterres is just a deluded idiot if he even thought he'd get something from Putin now, and that's not saying what kind of message that is sent from the UN.

All of them who visit him only legitimize him and wind up getting lied to. Completely pointless imo.