Why don’t you enlighten me as to what you’re referring to, then?
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Why don’t you enlighten me as to what you’re referring to, then?
Putin's ultimate goal was always to return the Soviet Union to its former glory, and taking Ukraine is basically the crowning jewel of that achievement. Not exactly realistic without massive suffering and loss of human lives and very maniacal, but that is his perspective and I am in no way defending or rationalizing it.
What changed now is that information disseminates across the world so quickly with today's technology, so as the clear agressor in this conflict, Putin has been getting nothing but near universal international condemnation in a matter of days.
It's only a shame because the Russian people who don't want these wars are who are gonna suffer the most via economic sanctions and fallout.
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5 more years of Tory rule, can't wait
Yeah fair enough. I’ve just never seen the government explicitly say they’re “allowing” Britons to fight. They made it very clear that no one was allowed to go to Syria and fight with the Kurds, despite the YPG not being a terrorist organisation. Not sure if Abadi went with the governments blessing either and was on an MI5 watchlist for good reason (even if it didn’t prevent the atrocity).
Imagine if they’re caught though. At least now they could have a cover story (that the Russians would obviously know as bullshit). Also I’m not too sure we’d commit to pinging SAS into frontline roles. Maybe there to spy on the Russians and gather intel but that’s about it. We haven’t got too many of them and they’re incredibly valuable assets, so could very well be being held back. But this gives them plausible deniability.
Untrained UK citizens who can presumably not speak the language, what could go wrong. Idiotic call to make by the UK government.
Good thread.
Clearly. He is however a lot more impulsive and prone to irrational decisions.
Putin is more wicked, calculated and cunning. But his sociopathic nature doesn't make him more prone to pushing the nuclear button 'because he's a lunatic'.
I worry if these guys really know what combat looks like. I know they're saying things like "I know I can die" but saying those things is easy when you're emotional and care about what's going on in Ukraine. They might find themselves in some Kyiv or Kharkov alley at night, surrounded by Russians waiting to blow 'em up. It's hell.
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They belong to the US though. Germany aren’t considered a nuclear power and would only be used with the US.
You're right, it'll be the SRS using non-British issued kit doing recon.
There is likely an SAS/SBS squadron that has moved to Eastern Europe I would expect.
This is an interesting read on history of Ukraine and links with Russia Europe etc.
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/...src=ngp::int_cmp=amp::int_add=amp_readtherest
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/...src=ngp::int_cmp=amp::int_add=amp_readtherest
Not really relevant as US would use them if Russia launches, no one is going to nuke Russia unless it retaliatory.
Which is?
So what happened? The Russians missed? Or they were told to surrender, told the Russians to go feck themselves, then surrendered?
Glad the snake island troops are alive. Another example of how twitter and war reporting is absolutely useless.
Dunno, UKR navy only confirmed they were still alive.
I agree but I am not saying he would fire them because of his mental status. Thing is he thought it would be relatively easy taking over Ukraine but his plan has backfired immensely. They are fighting back harder than he imagined. Russians have made big losses on the battleground and the nation has been hit with enormous economcal sanctions.
Now we have a man who have threatened to use nukes backed into a corner and my point is when such a situation arises you never know what may or may not happen.
Him and Lee have been class.
I thought the airforce had been involved though (post 14), the 1st attempt at Gostomel was 20+ Ka-52’s (lots of video evidence) and some plane involvement, the second attempt was reported by a number of good outlets as ~200 attack helicopters and planes. I believe Kofman even speculated what some of the second wave’s armour carrying aircraft were so believed it was good info at the time. Maybe that doesn’t constitute major involvement in the grand scale of things I guess?
As far as I’m aware in the case of Libya it was more turning a blind eye. They knew fighters were going and let it happen. Maybe with Syria they were hardline on it because they didn’t want more Brits getting beheaded in ISIS propaganda, as a guess.
Has the government said they can go here? It says in the article that Ben Wallace is saying not to go.
Ok. I think social media has obviously been extremely helpful in all of this but it is interesting how things spread. I guess we’ll find out the truth eventually
It is I was responding to the EU. There’s only France who is a nuclear power within it.
Getting tired of this delusional shite now, have some self respect man.
The sanctions and bans are designed to apply pressure. They aren’t attributed to people directly involved in what’s going on.
What has been known to happen before is a number of active troopers “take leave” together…what they do on their holidays is nothing to do with the government…
I think that we can say of Putin that he wouldn't push the button without some gain calculated.
If his temper were more like trumps I'd consider him more likely to push the button for little reason other than he wanted to in the moment.
Of course you never know what may happen. But I think he'd consider the likelihood of simply being assassinated by his own if he tried a sufficient deterrent.
I hope you're right.
Not just the rhetoric from Putin, but serious analysts on the news being unsure of how far this could escalate has had me quite anxious lately.
Just a few days ago I was on here going on about how nuclear war won't happen, Putin can't win, he isn't stupid, etc etc. But now I'm just not sure, and I hate that.
From the BBC…
International Criminal Court to investigate invasion
The International Criminal Court will open an investigation into alleged war crime conducted by Russia in Ukraine.
"There is a reasonable basis to believe that both alleged war crimes and crimes against humanity have been committed in Ukraine," Karim AA Khan, the ICC prosecutor has said.
"It is my intention that this investigation will also encompass any new alleged crimes falling within the jurisdiction of my Office that are committed by any party to the conflict on any part of the territory of Ukraine".
International Criminal Court to investigate invasion
The International Criminal Court will open an investigation into alleged war crime conducted by Russia in Ukraine.
"There is a reasonable basis to believe that both alleged war crimes and crimes against humanity have been committed in Ukraine," Karim AA Khan, the ICC prosecutor has said.
"It is my intention that this investigation will also encompass any new alleged crimes falling within the jurisdiction of my Office that are committed by any party to the conflict on any part of the territory of Ukraine".
Our top diplomat Liz Truss said she’d allow Britons to go and fight because, you know, “ooo great optics Liz, that’s slashed your odds to be next leader”. Wallace just saying the obvious thing. It’s unbelievably moronic to go there.
I agree, it’s a crazy call to make. One thing being passionate, another defending your home town from foreign invasion. The latter gives you the courage and confidence to do a good job (you also speak the language and know your way around). These guys just have passion, but lack the language and local knowledge to be effective. It’s reckless and stupid.
Yes, actually you're right. Even during Syria, the government had allowed it by turning a blind eye. This was during the initial stages of the uprising. When ISIS became a huge problem and threat globally then this is when the government put a stop to it.
I hope Putin doesn't decided to nuke the international criminal court. That's like 2 miles from my house 
What europe should do as well is turn off the oil and gas taps from Russia and get them elsewhere. I imagine it would be difficult. But that would really cripple the russian economy given 30 to 40 percent of their GDP is from selling oil and gas to europe and elsewhere.
fecking hate that my first thought reading this was “woah cool”.
If nuclear hell breaks loose, better get directly hit straight awayI hope Putin doesn't decided to nuke the international criminal court. That's like 2 miles from my house
I just can't imagine that's even remotely possible, despite all the bluster. If someone can provide that evidence then I'll gladly accept I'm wrong. I think despite all the big talk we still need Russia and vice versa. Very difficult situation.
I hope Putin doesn't decided to nuke the international criminal court. That's like 2 miles from my house
Don't worry you wouldn't even know it..
It is utterly stupid. I did 1 tour in the ME, someone from that tour has since killed himself. That is someone who passed medical tests and went through the training which is designed to train you to operate under stress.
I saw men who gave it the big stuff beforehand freeze in place when we started taking fire for the 1st time, who needed the senior guys who had been there before kick into gear and start barking orders. Even I thought it was all surreal. Wait? They're shooting at me? How the feck some civvies not knowing the language are going to cope is beyond me.
She would be ashamed of herself and offer to pay the medical bills for the inevitable PTSD some of these will come back with out of her own pocket.
That popped into my head a couple days ago. It seems as if nearly all ground combat has been dictated by the Sun.