Russian invasion of Ukraine | Fewer tweets, more discussion

I don't get it. It is espionage. They had to be booted out, with or without the invasion.

Every country has 'known' spies that are official diplomatic employees of an embassy with all the perks that brings, and they're kind of tolerated by the host nation. Sounds like they're being booted out here to make a statement.

Every country also has the undeclared spies and they're the ones that get the firing squad when they're caught.
 
I don't care either way. I just want folks to stop acting like FIFA and UEFA did this for Ukraine.

Of course they didn't. They did it because no one wanted to play a Russian team and they had no choice.

UEFA did sever ties with Gazprom though, who had brought a lot of money. That's something at least.
 
You hopefully also know as well as I do that the Russians have been using their air force in this war since Day 1. As have the Ukrainians.

I really don't understand what "escalation" you expect to happen here. The air has been a part of this war the whole time.
I'm actually surprised the air battles haven't happened to the scale I thought up in my head (based on the air skirmishes between India and Pakistan in 2019...a lot of birds were involved there)
 
What europe should do as well is turn off the oil and gas taps from Russia and get them elsewhere. I imagine it would be difficult. But that would really cripple the russian economy given 30 to 40 percent of their GDP is from selling oil and gas to europe and elsewhere.
That is not feasible at this point in time is think.

What this war has made abundantly clear is that energy politics is security politics. I expect the EU will be putting all their efforts into achieving energy independence from potentially hostile actors asap. But that is years away.
 
I hope Putin doesn't decided to nuke the international criminal court. That's like 2 miles from my house :nervous:
Bit selfish of you since it's only 400 miles away from mine as well.
 



I cannot wait for the next general election.


What the feck is this shit. I really struggle to put into words how much I hate this government.

Unless I’m reading this wrong, I think about my partner who is from Slovenia, she wouldn’t have a single family member eligible to come over. Parents, grandparents, little niece and nephews. Like what the feck.
 
Yup. Looks like the only real one who exists is meme called General Denaturov.

The forever drunk Russian general who was handled a military title through connections with Putin. He never fired a weapon, he was just a bodyguard and suddenly he's leading the invasion and he don't know what's happening around him. Also he's directly responsible for Roma gypsies stealing a Russian tank in village of Ljubimovka.

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He looks the definition of ‘afternoon sesh’
 
What the feck is this shit. I really struggle to put into words how much I hate this government.

Unless I’m reading this wrong, I think about my partner who is from Slovenia, she wouldn’t have a single family member eligible to come over. Parents, grandparents, little niece and nephews. Like what the feck.
Nice.

Agreed with the rest Of your post feck the Tories
 
What the feck is this shit. I really struggle to put into words how much I hate this government.

Unless I’m reading this wrong, I think about my partner who is from Slovenia, she wouldn’t have a single family member eligible to come over. Parents, grandparents, little niece and nephews. Like what the feck.

It's the way that they so brazenly lie that really sticks with you. No morals, no principles, no shame. Absolute shower of cnuts and so is anyone that votes for them.
 
The Russians will likely expel the same number of diplomats from the US mission in Russia. If some of those are actually CIA case agents, then that's fewer case agents the US has to work sources in Russia.

That’ll all be taken into account when making the decision. Also getting expelled from Russia now is probably a blessing.
 
I always suspected you lived in Musselburgh.
Instead of thinly veiling it, why don't you just come out and call me a scabby cnut?
 
Depends what they’ve been up to. Sometimes it’s a calculated risk to keep them around and just follow them, but the invasion gives them the pretext to boot them out without too much fuss (although we’ll see).

Very likely. Or that they've been caught doing something particularly naughty.
 
Michael Kofman is saying now that he is starting to see a shift in tactics from the Russian army that will likely lead to more success for them (waiting for logistics to catch up, using multiple units in concert after softening areas with artillery and airstrikes). Will be concerning to see if this leads to an increase in civilian casualities and/or inability of UKR military to maintain the success they have so far.

This needs more discussion and focus I think
 
That’ll all be taken into account when making the decision. Also getting expelled from Russia now is probably a blessing.
I'm sure they've taken it into account and have accepted the costs, I was just pointing out that it is not a costless action.
 
Who has acted like that?

It’s more unusual you don’t care or see the benefit in showing solidarity across all fronts with this
Plenty of folks in my neck of the internet woods.

Oh now we're about showing solidarity with downtrodden of the world. I'm just feeling cynical about all this. This banning of sport teams does nothing significant for my money. It's just FIFA and UEFA scoring cheap political points.
 
Don't think the following has been posted.

But this is exactly the kind of stuff Russia is liable to do under Putler. The guys is itching for a fight like a cornered rat.

 
It's the way that they so brazenly lie that really sticks with you. No morals, no principles, no shame. Absolute shower of cnuts and so is anyone that votes for them.

I don’t really understand how I can scroll through the whole bbc news page and this isn’t a headline anywhere. It’s scandalous.
 
Of course they didn't. They did it because no one wanted to play a Russian team and they had no choice.

UEFA did sever ties with Gazprom though, who had brought a lot of money. That's something at least.
They'll make their nut from somewhere else. This move scores them points in boardrooms throughout Europe.
 
Claims of Russia using cluster bombs containing forbidden Petal mines in Kharkiv :

 
Don't think the following has been posted.

But this is exactly the kind of stuff Russia is liable to do under Putler. The guys is itching for a fight like a cornered rat.



Desperate bluster. Putin is already using another country to kill Ukrainians, so he himself has already set the precedent of third party nations getting involved.
 
Desperate bluster. Putin is already using another country to kill Ukrainians, so he himself has already set the precedent of third party nations getting involved.
And the Ukraine is a country defending itself. Denying them arms sales at this point would effectively mean denying them their right to self defense.
 
It's the way that they so brazenly lie that really sticks with you. No morals, no principles, no shame. Absolute shower of cnuts and so is anyone that votes for them.
There's a whole European continent out there, we are not part of the EU. Hence brexit. We've been taken for absolute mugs for too long in the past.

Although I would take in refugees in warfare until they could return to wherever they feel safe.
 
Don't think the following has been posted.

But this is exactly the kind of stuff Russia is liable to do under Putler. The guys is itching for a fight like a cornered rat.


It was posted many pages ago. Just a bluff most likely by Putin.
 
There's a whole European continent out there, we are not part of the EU. Hence brexit. We've been taken for absolute mugs for too long in the past.

Although I would take in refugees in warfare until they could return to wherever they feel safe.
Read the room, man
 
What the feck is this shit. I really struggle to put into words how much I hate this government.

Unless I’m reading this wrong, I think about my partner who is from Slovenia, she wouldn’t have a single family member eligible to come over. Parents, grandparents, little niece and nephews. Like what the feck.
Yes. My wife and son are Ukrainian. We can not bring anyone over. Usually we could at least apply for a tourist visa for family or friends. They have closed that route off now too. I cannot emphasise at how performative our Government is being at making grand gestures and then not following it up on a humanitarian front. But these are the people responsible for Windrush, so nobody can be surprised.
 
Don't think the following has been posted.

But this is exactly the kind of stuff Russia is liable to do under Putler. The guys is itching for a fight like a cornered rat.



It hardly seems fair that we get to take the credit when the Ukrainians are the ones risking their lives :D
 
Don't think the following has been posted.

But this is exactly the kind of stuff Russia is liable to do under Putler. The guys is itching for a fight like a cornered rat.



It's a bit fecking late for that, isn't it.
 
There's a whole European continent out there, we are not part of the EU. Hence brexit. We've been taken for absolute mugs for too long in the past.

Although I would take in refugees in warfare until they could return to wherever they feel safe.
I believe this is your very first post outside the football forums, and certainly in this thread? That says a lot.