Russian invasion of Ukraine | Fewer tweets, more discussion
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Yeah, ah I just think it's not that unusual to see any amount of praise for anyone knocked back in this context. Nobody is really doing enough.
how long are the Russian people going to tolerate this? Mass protests and arrests today. Surely this will reach boiling point soon..
Any news on Russians fleeing to Finland?
It's been about 100 years now, give or take.
Your probably right. It’s Sunday night and I’m tetchy
I'm always tetchy. (And we did get hammered today as well.)
They haven’t had this? Economy in tatters, everything pulling out of the country, prison for protesting or talking out of turn about the war..
You underestimate fear and complacency, unfortunately. The former in Russia, the latter in the West.
Talking to people in my circle in the West, everyone just accepts surveillance, saying they have nothing to hide. That's all well and good until someone decides they are going to find something you've hidden, real or not.
I'm not at all a military expert, but for what it's worth I say "no".
From what I've read, in a big city environs the attackers will lose troops in a roughly 6:1 ratio compared to determined defenders. I'd imagine there are many thousands of Ukrainian troops inside Kiev, well-armed, in defendable positions, highly motivated.
If the Russians really do try to take the city with troops who don't want to be there and whose hearts are really not in it, when their losses hit maybe10,0000 in and around Kiev - and the remaining Russian troops know that there are still many thousands of defenders left - the Russian army will disintegrate: large-scale desertions and surrenders in order to avoid the meat grinder.
The West is effectively returning Russia to the Soviet era. During Soviet times, you couldn't even buy chocolate without special tokens.
I don't know enough to give you too many examples but I recently have started asking my seniors a bit more about this, since it was never taught to me in school.
That bit was fairly predictable at least
They have had degrees of this over the last 100 years. They have a bigger tolerance for a strongarm state than most. Hopefully this is the tipping point though.
A sizeable chunk of change.
I think the big difference is that this time they've had two or three decades of (sort of) democracy and (mostly) free speech. They've never had them and lost them before.
Putin to begin selling t shirts with icebergs on them.
Maybe so, but Putin might be dead by then. In any case, in a few years, with continued sanctions, Russia will be in economic ruins, perhaps mired in civil unrest, and in no position to finance or mount another invasion. Moreover, the Ukrainian army, with NATO support, will be larger, better trained and better armed than now.
Besides, the only alternative to reaching some kind of deal with Putin would seem to be months of war, leading into years.
Indeed.
No, that happened the day they got booted from the Eurovision Contest.
Shelling during a cease fire for evacuations, classy them Russians. Seriously someone just put a bullet in Putin.
A couple of days ago a BBC news reporter was saying there's a constant flow but not a pouring of Russians crossing the border into Finland.
I wish TikTok was blocked in the West. I fecking despise it.
I agree and every time I mention this to my slightly younger colleagues, I feel like a boomer
.As for this piece of news, I think it's bad since a lot of intelligence is coming from TikTok and also Ukrainian videos.
Have you tried deleting the app ?
That’s brilliant & if they’ll keep up it can actually be very effective.
Big time.
The Russians always have/had good entries
Nice source.
I agree and every time I mention this to my slightly younger colleagues, I feel like a boomer
As for this piece of news, I think it's bad since a lot of intelligence is coming from TikTok and also Ukrainian videos.
Well, unless they define Ukraine as part of Russia then it shouldn't affect the Ukrainians you'd think? It will hinder protesters in Russia though.
It looks dodgy as hell but then this is yellow pages information, so I thought it's mostly public knowledge.
If it's bollocks, I'll remove the post.
I haven’t got the app mate. I just hate the TikTok culture (no, I’m not a boomer, or even an Xer).
It's about what Russians can see. All the other socials have already 'left', so all these appeals for Russian action on Twitter are slightly pointless.
My estimation of Anonymous has gone up by infinity. I'm sure they'll bring it back down again soon enough, but it's nice while it lasts.
The UK spends billions every year on the intelligence services which predicted and published freely to all exactly the scale of the problem Ukraine and Europe was facing. Only to be told by everyone we were fear mongering or panicking.
The reason the displaced people even have a chance at escape is because of the immense bravery of Ukrainian service men using in part British supplied weapons we flew in around the German no fly zone and the training UK soldiers gave to them which has helped to stop the Russian advance on Kyiv.
Do I wish the UK govt did more for the refugees, yes I do. I have never voted conservative and never will.
I think you have a memory like a sieve and chip on your shoulder.
The Russians have made it quite clear that it is the UK who they feel is most responsible for their pain and who they will be looking to respond against first/most. To me that says it all.
Тhe way this is going UA officers will be giving lectures in West Point on practical anti russian armor tactics.
Another scary thread hinting at a forced draft of young males all across Russia.