Russian invasion of Ukraine | Fewer tweets, more discussion

Dancfc said:
I noticed on Thursday watching ITV news there was only one piece on news coverage covering the war compared to even a week before where it was the only thing being covered.

I hope I'm wrong but I feel war fatigue may kick in with the west and arguably it already has. Even if we look at this thread, last week i come back on here after sleeping and it's double figure pages to catch up on, now it's four at most.
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I don't think it's just the war fatigue, it's just how many times can you report the same thing. Russians are shelling the cities, they are making very limited, if any progress. Basically the state of war is the same for almost 10 days now. Basically there is nothing new going on and it's hard to talk and bring anything new of note do discuss.

My parents have accepted Ukrainian refugees (we are not in UK), I've met them a few days ago, so this war is always on my mind, but it's simply hard to contribute anything to discussions. Basically it's wait and see how the next few weeks/months go and hope Russian front and economy falls apart or something.

Dancfc said:
When I say worried i was thinking more in the sense of willingness to help (in terms of donations etc). Not saying it makes people bad but it's human nature to not be as on the ball 6 months in as it is 2 weeks in (another example would be the slow erosion of things like clap for key workers and the all in this together spirit over the lockdowns).
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Well, my business is raising some funds for a donation this month, so it will come due in two weeks. But yes, personal donations won't be as significant in the coming weeks. However, those are not that important, the important donations are from governments and I can't see those stopping coming in. UK, EU and USA will want to support Ukraine as much as possible and they will do it, because they will know war is going on and governments don't care about news cycles (in this context, of course they care if there's something dodgy being reported) but rather strategic goals, and handling Putin will remain a strategic goal for Western powers. At least I believe it so.
 
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Dancfc said:
I noticed on Thursday watching ITV news there was only one piece on news coverage covering the war compared to even a week before where it was the only thing being covered.

I hope I'm wrong but I feel war fatigue may kick in with the west and arguably it already has. Even if we look at this thread, last week i come back on here after sleeping and it's double figure pages to catch up on, now it's four at most.
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A case of no news is good news? This means that the Russians have not progressed and are bogged down. Same shit different days ain't newsworthy.
 
Dancfc said:
I noticed on Thursday watching ITV news there was only one piece on news coverage covering the war compared to even a week before where it was the only thing being covered.

I hope I'm wrong but I feel war fatigue may kick in with the west and arguably it already has. Even if we look at this thread, last week i come back on here after sleeping and it's double figure pages to catch up on, now it's four at most.
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I’ve watched BBC News, Sky News and Channel 4’s Youtube content since the invasion began, and whilst the news cycle has definitely slowed down, it is still absolutely dominating. I don’t really watch ITV News, but I think they have gone for quite a strong regional news focus in recent years?

The only two stories though to get any real significant attention on all of these broadcasters, outside of Ukraine, Russia and the reactions from the West, have been the release of the Iranian prisoners and the P&O mass dismissals. That’s pretty much been it for over three weeks now, which feels unparalleled. Even COVID didn’t quite dominate in the same way.
 
The story is the Sun quoting the Star, so bullshit squared, but how close to readiness for the battlefield are full-on Iron Man-style suits?

Fears Russia’s deadly ‘Robocop’ exoskeleton suit may be used in Ukraine but armour has one major flaw

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https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/18000760/russia-exoskeleton-suits-armour-ukraine-robocop-iron-man/
 
Dancfc said:
I noticed on Thursday watching ITV news there was only one piece on news coverage covering the war compared to even a week before where it was the only thing being covered.

I hope I'm wrong but I feel war fatigue may kick in with the west and arguably it already has. Even if we look at this thread, last week i come back on here after sleeping and it's double figure pages to catch up on, now it's four at most.
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It does genuinely feel like Ukriane has ground Russia to a bit of a standstill in some places and massively slowed it’s main attacks that were destined for Kyiv so it’s hard to know what has changed bar more shelling. I guess the news has to pace their updates to keep the masses interested - sadly I think this desensitisation is just part of the social media world now, you can’t change it but you can manage it.
 
Jippy said:
The story is the Sun quoting the Star, so bullshit squared, but how close to readiness for the battlefield are full-on Iron Man-style suits?

Fears Russia’s deadly ‘Robocop’ exoskeleton suit may be used in Ukraine but armour has one major flaw

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https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/18000760/russia-exoskeleton-suits-armour-ukraine-robocop-iron-man/
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I remember them looking at these about 10 years ago, the power consumption is massive and they're quite cumbersome things still. The US canned their program a few years ago.

They're useful for enhancing single tasks like helping somebody carry heavy objects or increasing endurance but not for front line soldiering, we're a long way off an Ironman style bullet proof suit.
 
11101 said:
I remember them looking at these about 10 years ago, the power consumption is massive and they're quite cumbersome things still. The US canned their program a few years ago.

They're useful for enhancing single tasks like helping somebody carry heavy objects or increasing endurance but not for front line soldiering, we're a long way off an Ironman style bullet proof suit.
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Interesting the US canned it- I guess it has to be so multipurpose to be effective. The cost of these things must be prohibitive for mass rollout across thousands of infantry too you'd imagine too.
 
Jippy said:
Interesting the US canned it- I guess it has to be so multipurpose to be effective. The cost of these things must be prohibitive for mass rollout across thousands of infantry too you'd imagine too.
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It makes you wonder how many the Russians would really have at their disposal if the Americans thought it wasn't cost effective. The Russian military budget is probably lower than my weekly Cadbury's allowance.
 
Raoul said:
Beyond the invasion, the subsequent looting, theft, and random destruction of property have had something to do with ti.
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The rule by criminal gangs - kidnapping for ransom, robbery, murder, rape and torture - who now run the eastern areas that were "liberated" by Russia years before this invasion also has something to do with it. Word of this has long since spread across the contested border to any Russian-speaking Ukrainians who might once have been well-disposed towards Russia. They now staunchly oppose Russian "liberation", not least because they know the same gangster-state future awaits them if the invasion succeeds.
 
So are we now saying Russia's top tech is better than the US's, not to mention China?

If true, Americans have been taken for an even bigger ride by their weapons lobby than I thought.
 
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This will not deter anything that NATO is doing. And if the Russians think that firing a hypersonic missile is going to stop hundreds of cars, vans and other vehicles from ferrying weapons into the interior of Ukraine each day, then they need think again.
 
GlastonSpur said:
This will not deter anything that NATO is doing. And if the Russians think that firing a hypersonic missile is going to stop hundreds of cars and other vehicles from ferrying weapons into the interior of Ukraine each day, then they need think again.
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I think the Russians are just looking for something to frame as a win to domestic constituents. Putin has been chest pounding about his hypersonic program being ready for some time, so a successful use of one in an actual war would be something for him to gloat about amidst broader Russian incompetence over the past month.
 
British volunteer fighters are feared to have triggered a deadly airstrike on a Ukrainian military base after their phones were detected in the area, the Telegraph can reveal.

At least 35 people were killed, potentially including three British ex-special forces troops, when 30 Russian cruise missiles pulverised the Yavoriv facility, near the Polish border, on March 13.

The target on the base is believed to have been the International Centre for Peacekeeping and Security, where Ukraine has been training foreign civilian recruits for its international brigade.

Now, the Telegraph has learned that around 12 to 14 phone numbers starting with +44 were visible to surveillance equipment in the area in the hours before the missile strike.

Security sources said mercenaries paid by the Wagner Group, a secretive military company with links to the Kremlin, were suspected of operating on the ground at the time.
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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-n...er-fighters-may-have-triggered-deadly-strike/
 
Rightnr said:
So are we now saying Russia's top tech is better than the US's, not to mention China?

If true, Americans have been taken for an even bigger ride by their weapons lobby than I thought.
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It's impressive but for all we know they only have two of them.
 
So I’ve not been posting but I’ve been following: let me get this straight; Russia are going to achieve its political goals and Ukraine are going to concede some of their self determination objectives; after a about 10 thousand deaths between our families? …sounds about right.
 
Jippy said:
The story is the Sun quoting the Star, so bullshit squared, but how close to readiness for the battlefield are full-on Iron Man-style suits?

Fears Russia’s deadly ‘Robocop’ exoskeleton suit may be used in Ukraine but armour has one major flaw

NINTCHDBPICT000429294232.jpg

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/18000760/russia-exoskeleton-suits-armour-ukraine-robocop-iron-man/
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I mean, they can’t even get functioning tanks onto the battlefield with fuel and ammo in them….are they really about to unload futuristic full-body power suit stuff
 
Paxi said:
So I’ve not been posting but I’ve been following: let me get this straight; Russia are going to achieve its political goals and Ukraine are going to concede some of their self determination objectives; after a about 10 thousand deaths between our families? …sounds about right.
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Can a win be a loss?
 
Paxi said:
So I’ve not been posting but I’ve been following: let me get this straight; Russia are going to achieve its political goals and Ukraine are going to concede some of their self determination objectives; after a about 10 thousand deaths between our families? …sounds about right.
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Are Russia achieving anything apart from creating rubble in Mariupol?
 
spiriticon said:
Are Russia achieving anything apart from creating rubble in Mariupol?
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Of course they are. They have Zelensky admitting that Ukraine will never be part of NATO.
As a Slav whom has Russian and Ukrainian blood, this is particularly difficult and I just want this to end now. The fact that we’re going to end up with what Russia asked for, thats a bit fecking bitter. Did all this need to happen?
 
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