Russian invasion of Ukraine | Fewer tweets, more discussion

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Are the people in Eastern Ukraine genuinely pro Russian or do they just not want to get shot?

I have never been clear whether the new Russian backed states actually have mass support.
There has never really been a Donbassian identity and so polling on independence or joining Russian never made much sense, but in short the answer is “no” or “not really”. Read something like this for a primer: https://www.historians.in.ua/index....-donbas-how-to-understand-its-past-and-future

We essentially are where are because Igor Strelkov/Girkin entered Ukraine to foment unrest and start armed insurgency, capitalising on the political unrest post-Maidan. It’s not hard to offer people a large increase on their salary to become parts of militias in that part of the world. The escalation of events was driven by a few key maverick protagonists though, mostly Russian, many of whom were then were killed by Russia themselves once they outlived their usefulness.

Of course, there are people living there, mainly of the older generation, who see Russia/Soviet Union as their home and have a warped sense of what has gone since 2014, but the idea of there a burgeoning sepratist movement, as in Scotland or Catalonia is just not supported by any evidence.

Speaking Russian or voting for pro-Russian parties shouldn’t be seen as wanting to be occupied by Russian-backed forces or Russia itself, anymore than being a Remaimer in the UK would mean supporting the EU seizing in the UK. You can be a Russian-speaker, (formerly) Russian-facing, but still identify as a Ukrainian and despise what has happened since 2014. My mother-in-law in Lviv is one such person. You can be a dyed-in-the-wool Communist who was a proud party member, who like Putin thinks the demise of the Soviet Union was a tragedy, and still be aghast at what has happened, now spending everyday bickering with your wife of 50+ years over who is the more Ukrainian. My grandfather-in-law is one such person.

It’s a complicated issue, one you can spend a lot of time researching and reading, but the creation of the DNR and LNR was not an organic process from people living in the area. It was driven by outsiders.
 
Everyone checking on this thread for the updates please continue supporting Ukraine (if you have means). The charity I recommend personally: https://blue-yellow.lt/en/. These guys have been in operation since the 2014 invasion and are mostly focused on supplying the necessary equipment to the front line fighters. Many Lithuanians who have gone to fight for Ukraine have been singling them out as the ones who provide crucial support for the units in red zones. Also, moral and financial support really makes them going, the Lithuanians who have returned from front lines say that Ukrainians are currently highly motivated as they feel the world is behind them with the support messages they’re receiving through various platforms at the moment and the worry for them is that as the war drags some other topics will become dominant in the western countries and the level of support will dramatically decrease. The importance of morale can’t be underestimated as they’re constantly under a huge amount of stress.
 
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Everyone checking on this thread for the updates please continue supporting Ukraine (if you have means). The charity I recommend personally: https://blue-yellow.lt/en/. These guys have been in operation since the 2014 invasion and are mostly focused on supplying the necessary equipment to the front line fighters. Many Lithuanians who have gone to fight for Ukraine have been singling them out as the ones who provide crucial support for the units in red zones. Also, moral and financial support really makes them going, the Lithuanians who have returned from front lines say that Ukrainians are currently highly motivated as they feel the world is behind them with the support messages they’re receiving through various platforms at the moment and the worry for them is that as the war drags some other topics will become dominant in the western countries and the level of support will dramatically decrease. The importance of morale can’t be underestimated as they’re constantly under a huge amount of stress.
Yes. I am literally a "house" giver both in the city of Constanta as well as in Mamaia in hotels. The money that comes back from that has nothing to do with many things that are popular, nor should they.

Just my opinion here, If somebody want's to help financially, do it through the red cross. I've seen super rich people with Porsche getting a save for this or that while the ones that actually need help are left in the dark.

Donate to the Red Cross. If you want to help.
 
"More than 7,000 dead Russian soldiers are being stored in morgues and refrigerated rail cars across Ukraine, Oleksiy Arestovych, adviser to the head of Ukraine's presidential administration, previously told The Washington Post.

"They said, 'We don't believe in such quantities. We don't have this number. We're not ready to accept them,'" Arestovych told the paper about the reaction of the Russian authorities.

More than 1,500 dead Russian soldiers are held in morgues in Dnipro, Ukraine, its deputy mayor Mykhailo Lysenko said on the TV channel Current Time on April 13."

https://www.businessinsider.com/700...left-in-morgues-ukraine-says-2022-4?r=US&IR=T
 
Yes. I am literally a "house" giver both in the city of Constanta as well as in Mamaia in hotels. The money that comes back from that has nothing to do with many things that are popular, nor should they.

Just my opinion here, If somebody want's to help financially, do it through the red cross. I've seen super rich people with Porsche getting a save for this or that while the ones that actually need help are left in the dark.

Donate to the Red Cross. If you want to help.
Please donate through various channels, I’m just recommending the one that I trust to deliver 100% of donated funds directly and swiftly to Ukrainian soldiers by obtaining them necessary equipment (drones, plate carriers, etc.).

Also, in the context of this war Red Cross have shown a very poor form:

 
"More than 7,000 dead Russian soldiers are being stored in morgues and refrigerated rail cars across Ukraine, Oleksiy Arestovych, adviser to the head of Ukraine's presidential administration, previously told The Washington Post.

"They said, 'We don't believe in such quantities. We don't have this number. We're not ready to accept them,'" Arestovych told the paper about the reaction of the Russian authorities.

More than 1,500 dead Russian soldiers are held in morgues in Dnipro, Ukraine, its deputy mayor Mykhailo Lysenko said on the TV channel Current Time on April 13."

https://www.businessinsider.com/700...left-in-morgues-ukraine-says-2022-4?r=US&IR=T

I fail to see how this isn't seeping into the Russian public, even with all the propaganda and clamping down of news sources, this should still be available on the likes of Telegram and other places.
 
I fail to see how this isn't seeping into the Russian public, even with all the propaganda and clamping down of news sources, this should still be available on the likes of Telegram and other places.
They can sense the scale by now and still call them fallen heroes and defenders. It’s totally fecked up country at this point.
 
Even whilst some Russian TV pundits call for escalation, others are now calling for Russian withdrawal. The cracks are starting to appear.

 
Please donate through various channels, I’m just recommending the one that I trust to deliver 100% of donated funds directly and swiftly to Ukrainian soldiers by obtaining them necessary equipment (drones, plate carriers, etc.).

Also, in the context of this war Red Cross have shown a very poor form:


Rubbish. For innocents the Red Cross is the one. I know this.

For the war effort is different. Most countries have a way to contribute to the defense.
 
Yes. I am literally a "house" giver both in the city of Constanta as well as in Mamaia in hotels. The money that comes back from that has nothing to do with many things that are popular, nor should they.

Just my opinion here, If somebody want's to help financially, do it through the red cross. I've seen super rich people with Porsche getting a save for this or that while the ones that actually need help are left in the dark.

Donate to the Red Cross. If you want to help.
The Red Cross isn’t the most well regarded charity for ensuring that the greatest percentage of donations get turned into tangible aid in a timely fashion, neither in Ukraine now or in any number of other conflicts or humanitarian disasters. I understand why people give them money, they are the most high profile brand, but there’s always a more local, effective and transparent charity for your cause.
 
I'm not going to use the devil's advocate phrase, because it's really dumb, but should we put so much faith into Twitter threads? Every page there's a new thread . This time the person has 112 followers and the thread itself has a grand total of 17 retweets and 31 likes. That doesn't mean its wrong, but it's a little bit like linking to a post on another forum and saying "here, read this 17 paragraph post".
 
I have seen that the Red Cross helps people with money they get from aliens and star wars and maybe, donations. They get people food and even phones to call their loved ones.
 
Oops, look's like India is no longer so impressed with Russian military equipment.

 
Re. Russian troops that came all the way from Vladivostok, in Russia's far East ...

Deputy commander of the 155th brigade of the Russian Federation still admitted catastrophic losses in the war – journalist

" About 80% of the bodies of dead servicemen could not be taken from the combat area. Today, the losses in the brigade amount to more than 500 dead and missing,” the report says."

https://ukrainetoday.org/2022/04/16...ed-catastrophic-losses-in-the-war-journalist/
 
I'm starting to think that Ukraine's estimate of 20,000 dead Russians may be the most accurate count out of those available.
 
Re. Russian troops that came all the way from Vladivostok, in Russia's far East ...

Deputy commander of the 155th brigade of the Russian Federation still admitted catastrophic losses in the war – journalist

" About 80% of the bodies of dead servicemen could not be taken from the combat area. Today, the losses in the brigade amount to more than 500 dead and missing,” the report says."

https://ukrainetoday.org/2022/04/16...ed-catastrophic-losses-in-the-war-journalist/
Looked into this for a second, found that on March 28th Putin signed a decree giving the 155th Separate Marine Brigade the status of Guards unit, so something definitely happened with them.