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Not in Ukraine, but cool…
I remember reading that the USSR extensively used fake equipment to fool US satellite and spy plane photography into thinking their armed forces were more formidable. So this would be expected.
Not in Ukraine, but cool…
When you would spend as much time in the woods looking for your slice as I used to, you're gonna find more balls than you left with! One round I actually had to stop taking them my bag was full.Like me playing golf
Malcolm Nance went to Ukraine?
https://www.msnbc.com/the-reidout/w...f-territorial-defense-of-ukraine-137997381811
Yep, he did and he has been there for around a month now. He posted this photo on his Twitter account too.
He is a former United States Navy Senior Chief Petty Officer with 20 years of service (1981-2001) with a specialization in naval cryptology, which means that he was involved in numerous counter-terrorism, intelligence, and combat operations. That's the kind of special set of skills that would help the Ukrainian forces a lot.
Russia’s messaging to the people at home is already that they are fighting NATO and that’s why it’s taking so long. They can’t really up the ante from that in terms of propaganda regarding troops on the ground.Is there a danger of a “straw that broke the camel’s back” narrative here?
One American/UK/French/German soldier feels the call to take up arms and go join the Ukrainian armed forces defending Ukraine. Then another. And another. They’re using western imported/donated weapons and acting on western intelligence.
From a Russian POV, at what point are these people individuals helping Ukraine and at what point are they NATO forces? Is it 1? Is it when a Ukrainian regiment has 10% western troops helping it? 50%?
Nothing more than a thought exercise really but it would be interesting to know what Russia would do if they found 10/15 western troops among the dead when they’re clearing out a city.
Is there a danger of a “straw that broke the camel’s back” narrative here?
One American/UK/French/German soldier feels the call to take up arms and go join the Ukrainian armed forces defending Ukraine. Then another. And another. They’re using western imported/donated weapons and acting on western intelligence.
From a Russian POV, at what point are these people individuals helping Ukraine and at what point are they NATO forces? Is it 1? Is it when a Ukrainian regiment has 10% western troops helping it? 50%?
Nothing more than a thought exercise really but it would be interesting to know what Russia would do if they found 10/15 western troops among the dead when they’re clearing out a city.
Malcolm Nance went to Ukraine?
https://www.msnbc.com/the-reidout/w...f-territorial-defense-of-ukraine-137997381811
Is there a danger of a “straw that broke the camel’s back” narrative here?
One American/UK/French/German soldier feels the call to take up arms and go join the Ukrainian armed forces defending Ukraine. Then another. And another. They’re using western imported/donated weapons and acting on western intelligence.
From a Russian POV, at what point are these people individuals helping Ukraine and at what point are they NATO forces? Is it 1? Is it when a Ukrainian regiment has 10% western troops helping it? 50%?
Nothing more than a thought exercise really but it would be interesting to know what Russia would do if they found 10/15 western troops among the dead when they’re clearing out a city.
It will be a problem the moment Russia decides it want to see it as NATO involvement.No I don’t think there is a problem with it. These are individuals who wanted to join the fight and have nothing to do with NATO.
It will be a problem the moment Russia decides it want to see it as NATO involvement.
But it doesn't matter, they can see any of the help NATO gives as an act of war and decide to act about it. And definitely weapon deliveries are much more crucial involvements than a few fighters.
Exactly, the moment Russia acknowledges they are in a hot war with NATO they are expected to fight this war, and they simply can't (except by nuclear escalation)They still won’t be able to do anything about it since they can’t respond in kind. Putin has also been using mercenaries and other countries like Belarus and Syria to help him, and knows he will have little grounds to complain. His best option will be to capture one or two US or UK third party fighters for a propaganda win.
Yep, he did and he has been there for around a month now. He posted this photo on his Twitter account too.
He is a former United States Navy Senior Chief Petty Officer with 20 years of service (1981-2001) with a specialization in naval cryptology, which means that he was involved in numerous counter-terrorism, intelligence, and combat operations. That's the kind of special set of skills that would help the Ukrainian forces a lot.
On August 20, 2016, Nance told MSNBC viewers that the Green Party's presidential nominee Jill Stein "has a show on Russia Today."[37] Glenn Greenwald later wrote: "there is no disputing the fact that Nance’s statement was a falsehood, a fabrication, a lie. Stein did not have a show on RT, nor did she ever host a show on RT."[38] Nance also accused Greenwald of being "an agent of Moscow" and "deep in the Kremlin pocket." He also stated that Greenwald "helped Snowden defect" and "reports in to [his] masters in Moscow." Greenwald accused Nance of lying.[38] In 2019, Nance stated to New York Magazine, "I was speaking rhetorically on Twitter... that was in relation to [Greenwald] being in Moscow with Edward Snowden, and having a sit-down with Edward Snowden. And he talked about it on Russia Today."[36]
On August 26, 2021, Nance posted a tweet following a terrorist attack in Kabul, Afghanistan that killed 13 US service members. Nance tweeted "20 YEARS- FYI there have been terrorist suicide bombers killing civilians nearly DAILY in Afghanistan. This ain’t new. It’s why we are leaving. #DealWithIt".[39][40] Nance later deleted the tweet and issued an apology, stating "I would never intentionally disrespect my brothers & sisters in arms. I also sincerely apologize to their families, and I pray for them. ... I posted before there were any serious casualties reported. I should’ve waited."[39]
or he's a 60 year old who was a non commissioned naval officer more than two decades ago who is trying to sell his book
from his wiki page
so yeah im not sure what to make of him but I have by doubts that he is going to be that useful to the ukranian forces
It's not quite cos play though, they are entering a hot war zone. I mean, if you're willing to take a cruise missile on the forehead, you must really want to sell your book.Anyone who feels the need to advertise that they're helping Ukrainian forces are never going to be great. They're the billy bullshitters of the group's, just there for attention and likes.
The real deals are the guys who just go and do it, no need for all the attention.
Yep, he did and he has been there for around a month now. He posted this photo on his Twitter account too.
He is a former United States Navy Senior Chief Petty Officer with 20 years of service (1981-2001) with a specialization in naval cryptology, which means that he was involved in numerous counter-terrorism, intelligence, and combat operations. That's the kind of special set of skills that would help the Ukrainian forces a lot.
or he's a 60 year old who was a non commissioned naval officer more than two decades ago who is trying to sell his book
from his wiki page
so yeah im not sure what to make of him but I have by doubts that he is going to be that useful to the ukranian forces
Russia will not use nuclear weapons in Ukraine, Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov says.
Asked about the issue in an interview with TV channel India Today, Lavrov says: "Conventional weapons only."
Early on in the war, Vladimir Putin ordered Russia's nuclear forces be placed on high alert, and a number of Russian government figures have signalled the country would be willing to use them in certain circumstances.
Lavrov also says, with Russia's offensive now focused on Ukraine's east, the war is entering a new phase, echoing similar comments from the Ukrainian military.
"The operation in the east of Ukraine is aimed, as was announced from the very beginning, to fully liberate the [self-proclaimed] Donetsk and Luhansk republics. And this operation will continue," he says.
"Another stage of this operation is beginning, and I am sure this will be a very important moment of this entire special operation."
Source : BBC
Well this is worrying - usually when the say they won't they will, and when they say they will, they don't.Russia will not use nuclear weapons in Ukraine, Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov says.
Asked about the issue in an interview with TV channel India Today, Lavrov says: "Conventional weapons only."
Early on in the war, Vladimir Putin ordered Russia's nuclear forces be placed on high alert, and a number of Russian government figures have signalled the country would be willing to use them in certain circumstances.
Lavrov also says, with Russia's offensive now focused on Ukraine's east, the war is entering a new phase, echoing similar comments from the Ukrainian military.
"The operation in the east of Ukraine is aimed, as was announced from the very beginning, to fully liberate the [self-proclaimed] Donetsk and Luhansk republics. And this operation will continue," he says.
"Another stage of this operation is beginning, and I am sure this will be a very important moment of this entire special operation."
Source : BBC
He is a bit of grandstander. His previous role in the military won't be of any help to the Ukrainians given that he left in 2001 and the way the military functions today in terms of technology and methods is very different. Fair play for him putting his neck on the line though.
Some thread this:
Some thread this:
This is just a fancy way of saying that Russians think their culture is superior to that of Ukraine, a superiority that gives them to right to force Ukrainians to become Russified, and that this is supposedly the driving force behind the invasion.
There may be some truth in this, but overall I don't buy it as the major factor. For me, the major factor that drove the invasion is the fear of Putin's regime that a free, democratic, independent and westward-looking Ukraine will give ideas to the people of Russia and Byelorussia.
So you think Putin wants to make sure that there is only one pan-Russian way of living in Russia, Belarus and "Little Russia" (as Ukraine is often called there). Sounds to me a lot similar to Galeev's point.This is just a fancy way of saying that Russians think their culture is superior to that of Ukraine, a superiority that gives them to right to force Ukrainians to become Russified, and that this is supposedly the driving force behind the invasion.
There may be some truth in this, but overall I don't buy it as the major factor. For me, the major factor that drove the invasion is the fear of Putin's regime that a free, democratic, independent and westward-looking Ukraine will give ideas to the people of Russia and Byelorussia.
So you think Putin wants to make sure that there is only one pan-Russian way of living in Russia, Belarus and "Little Russia" (as Ukraine is often called there). Sounds to me a lot similar to Galeev's point.
Some thread this:
There may be some truth in this, but overall I don't buy it as the major factor. For me, the major factor that drove the invasion is the fear of Putin's regime that a free, democratic, independent and westward-looking Ukraine will give ideas to the people of Russia and Byelorussia.