Russian invasion of Ukraine | Fewer tweets, more discussion
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ReuTers innitReuters "lowest of the low"?
Come on dude.
They had to already backtrack and apologize (with public statements) for a lot of misreporting on Ukraine. This happens so regularly this is definitely anything but a coincidence.Reuters "lowest of the low"?
Come on dude.
They admittedly rank quite low with stuff regarding war in Ukraine.Reuters "lowest of the low"?
Come on dude.
Examples?
Just a handful I was able to find off the back of quick search but the pattern is evident and the angle they’re purposefully pushing.
Putin helping to export grain from Ukraine?
Russian armed forces = Ukrainian rebels?
Kherson separatists?
To anyone more knowledgeable than me please.
if the damage to the gas line is deliberate, what does that mean in terms of a possible reaction?
my view is that it’s going to mean explicit conflict between nato and Russia.
please convince me otherwise
if the damage to the gas line is deliberate, what does that mean in terms of a possible reaction?
my view is that it’s going to mean explicit conflict between nato and Russia.
please convince me otherwise
It'll be a nato/Russia conflict if the Norway pipe is touched.
It can't be proved that's russia. Also damaging pipelines might not be enough to trigger article 5, or be considered an attack. If an attack is in NATO waters, then yeah, it's an attack, but if it's in international waters, I'm not sure.
This one? Nothing at all. It wasn’t functioning anyway (cause Russia weaponized their gas export), and Europe was/is preparing without the Russian gas.
Almost surely it was a message that they might do this to the Norway pipeline. In which case, I assume NATO would escalate too cause that would be a total act of war.
If it is deliberate then surely the only possible option is Russia? I’m not buying that a nato country would have done it in order to escalate.
Russia owns the Nord stream lines I think
Basically they broke their own stuff... (The implication being if we can do that we could take out other lines) but I don't think a NATO Russia conflict will happen over them breaking their own stuff
Russia declaring the Donbas part of Russia tomorrow and presumably then accusing Ukraine of attacking russian territory ... Now that might escalate quickly if they demand Ukrainian withdrawal and start threatening tactical nukes etc
My apologies for the rather rude response the other night - I had been having an argument on the same topic with in laws and over- reacted a bit to your rather harmless post. And, joking aside, i’d rather read your never dull postings than some more abuse directed at Harry Maguire.
Thanks for the reply, from what I understand breaking this line might affect “legit” supplies from the nordics?
I don't think so
This happened the day a new Norway Poland line opened up and pretty close to it
And simultaneous explosions probably shows their ability to strike numerous Norwegian pipes at once
But to the best of my knowledge this will not impact any non russian pipelines
No it doesn't, those are different pipelines. It's just about the message that those could be destroyed as well.
Thank you for the reply.
Makes me feel a bit better about the situation.
If putin is just dipping his toes in the water then hopefully the reaction will prevent him from actually doing it
There’s a video clip of Biden saying that if Russia attacks Ukraine, then USA will take out Nord Stream.
https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMF8CLvaQ/
https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMF8CLvaQ/
Yeah if reaction is strong though something along the lines of Norway/USA coming out to say that article 5 will be activated right away should similar thing happen to their pipe.
Please read the last few pages.
Meloni replying to Zelensky.
I say that's not beyond the realm of possibilities that Putin is willing to do the same kind of shit that Saddam did to Kuwaiti oil fields as the Iraqis fled during the Gulf War. Both cnuts deserve(d) to end with a rope around their necks just for that shit alone.
Right now, NATO better send military ships to patrol around the Norwegian pipelines for starters.
Indeed. I say Twitter is just needing that kind of official designation to start waging a war against Russian bots based on the same algorithms that were used to fight ISIS. In fact, that war against disinformation from the Kremlin should have been waged several years ago.
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At least these latest “referendums” completely undermine those that previously happened in Crimea. Far fewer will take those seriously now.
Christ
Ukrainian railways still continue to impress and retain a sense of humour:
He's says Nord Stream 2 would end, and it did, very quickly after the invasion.
To what benefit?
People are wondering if Norway did it just because they’re about the only country that benefits from this. Which is quite a stretch.
He was talking about NS2 and he meant sanctions, which wasn't needed since Germany voluntarily stopped the pipeline when the war started.
Well... sanctions against Germany were implemented and didn't stop the progress of the project, the beginning of the war did. As obviously sanctions weren't enough it is a valid question what means the US would have taken (or possibly did).
The US trying to force Germany to buy their expensive fracking LNG isn't that well received here...
The point is, it's not the US blowing the pipelines, that's ridiculous.
That bots push the narrative it doesnt mean that Biden didn't say it
While the rest of Europe freezes this winter, partly because Germany refused to heed the warning on becoming reliant on Russian gas, we will all bear those misgivings in mind.
This is a vexing question. There was a post in the WaPo comments that suggested the reason may be internal. Putin blows the pipelines and the oilygarchs' power is diminished; a message is sent to those around him that he can break them without resorting to defenestration.
Absolutely nothing to do with the war, but does anyone know why Meloni has the Arabic letter "noon" in her name?
Its Spectre.