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Sounds like Russia is putting increasing pressure on Bakhmut, desperate for a victory no doubt.
 
Simbo said:
Sounds like Russia is putting increasing pressure on Bakhmut, desperate for a victory no doubt.
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Until they are ready to bomb some civilians looks like they’re trying to post some good news with a victory or two. They are already claiming Pavlivka (SW of Donetsk), though I wouldn’t worry too much as that is a place of brutal fighting where spots can change hands frequently.

 
A new US aid package has been announced.

Capabilities in this package include:
• Missiles for HAWK air defense systems;
• Four Avenger air defense systems and Stinger missiles;
• Additional ammunition for High Mobility Artillery Rocket Systems (HIMARS);
• 21,000 155mm artillery rounds;
• 500 precision-guided 155mm artillery rounds;
• 10,000 120mm mortar rounds;
• 100 High Mobility Multipurpose Wheeled Vehicles (HMMWVs);
• 400 grenade launchers;
• Small arms, optics, and more than 20,000,000 rounds of small arms ammunition;
• Demolition equipment for obstacle clearing;
• Cold weather protective gear.
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https://www.defense.gov/News/Releas...million-in-additional-assistance-for-ukraine/
 
Rajma said:
Thought the advances would have been slower but UAF have entered Kherson city already.
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Yeh, not much confirmed but its starting to sound like they have made a massive push as soon as night fell, not just on the city.
 
Cantonaaa! said:
If this is true it’s quite big news isn’t it? Beginning of the end of the war I would hope. Or the end of Putin I should say.
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Yes if it’s true, it would result in total capitulation from Russia in this war no two ways about it. There’s no coming back from this one.
 
The Firestarter said:
They still have forces in the Donbas, capitulation is a bit of a stretch.
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We’re in a fog of war but in the hypothetical scenario it turns out to be true and this group gets destroyed / captured I can bet with anyone one here that the war ends within month. However, I still doubt it’s remotely close to reality as that would be simply too crazy.
 
Rajma said:
Yes if it’s true, it would result in total capitulation from Russia in this war no two ways about it. There’s no coming back from this one.
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Wish I shared your optimism!

Reports of 15k-20k Russian troops on the west bank still and Antonovsky bridge might well now be unpassable by foot, with very few boats available. Its looking like it could be a huge blow...

However, until Russians that really want to fight for their country realise their enemy is in the Kremlin, Putin will continue recruiting and throwing bodies into the fire. I've not yet seen anything to suggest Putin's control will be challenged.
 
If confirmed, this is insanely good news for Ukraine. A Crimean front (something unthinkable 8 months ago) would stop being a distant possibility and start becoming a matter of when.

Let's hope there are no big surprises (AKA dam bombings, floodings, huge counter attacks) on the way.
 
Rajma said:
Yes if it’s true, it would result in total capitulation from Russia in this war no two ways about it. There’s no coming back from this one.
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I think a lot of the troops and equipment that where stationed around Kherson are already on the other side of the river, there have been reports for at least 2 weeks of Russian equipment being pulled away from the front lines in the area. My guess is that the only ones left in the city are the rear guard that where manning the defensive lines outside the city to protect the retreat. This is probably still quite a large amount of troops but not enough to make the Russians surrender.
 
Rajma said:
Yes if it’s true, it would result in total capitulation from Russia in this war no two ways about it. There’s no coming back from this one.
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The command structure and best troops and material are likely mostly already across the river. Many that remain are just mobik bullet sponges. They already prepared defenses on the left bank and deeper lines of defense elsewhere.

Let’s not get ahead of ourselves...
 
the hea said:
I think a lot of the troops and equipment that where stationed around Kherson are already on the other side of the river, there have been reports for at least 2 weeks of Russian equipment being pulled away from the front lines in the area. My guess is that the only ones left in the city are the rear guard that where manning the defensive lines outside the city to protect the retreat. This is probably still quite a large amount of troops but not enough to make the Russians surrender.
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Yup, if Russians were competent.
 
worldgonemad said:
Fantastic news on the face of it. God that
pantomime statement seems to be so false though. Why telegraph the retreat before it happens?
Makes no sense to me.
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Wouldn't surprise anybody if they've mined the streets and or plan to bomb the city into rubble once the Ukrainian Army have entered.
 
So its safe to say that the Russians are not mounting a counterattack any time soon, huh?
 
Simbo said:
As speculated overnight.
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I don't think it was likely Ukrainians would have crossed that bridge anyway, it's just a recipe for disaster. Any attempt to liberate territories in southern Kherson would need to be done from the direction of Melitopol IMO.
 
R'hllor said:
There were other means to stop that cnut. West didnt always view him in the same way how they did before NATO bombing, one day good guy, tomorrow bad, he must have change lul.

He and his familiy always were pricks, just one day he was good fit in the eyes of the west and not so much in the other, so spare me with whole im/moral good/wrong bullshit.

Its not you who were 15 year old back then and had to carry your grandma on your back towards hills when NATO was bombing my town for the first time, i was living in basement with my family for 2 months, no bed, just matresses on the ground with blankets, getting light from car battery because we didnt have always power.
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This morning few hours ago my dad died. Directly from PTSP and he already lost one leg (after Vukovar when you raped and killed everyone).

But you had to carry your grandma... And you lived in a basement? It is feckin hilarous comparing to what you did to everyone for around 4 years... You bombed the whole city for 3 months and then when you finally went in sing a song for the families that were in a hospital (there will be blood, there will be blood, we will kill Croats). But that is not all. Imagine how feckin stupid the whole country was when they think they didn't deserve it and thar NATO was bombarding you and without your fault.

And this is how Ukranians will feel.

Btw. if he this gent responds in any logical way (because I will not post anymore) this is the day they enter the city finally.



We will never forget. Ever.
 
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