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Also, we should not forget all those in the West who believed the Russian lies. And especially those who were helping spread these lies.
Some people in the West really believed that the Russians are going after some Nazis in Ukraine and that was the main reason for the invasion. Is it astounding that some people really believed that 12 months ago, Russia amassed over 150,000 soldiers with the only goal to go and eliminate the Nazis from some other country, and then they'd just leave peacefully and everyone would be happy. Just a quick special operation involving an army of 150,000.
Blinken is warning allies that China may step up the support to Russia by providing lethal weapons. It will be almost entirely on Biden’s admin as they have failed to provide Ukraine with everything they needed to drive Russia away ages ago, it’s going to be a consequence of piss weak policy regarding weapon supply and all sorts of stupid restrictions they have put on themselves.
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Exactly
It's days like this where I can really hate the Western way of doing things at times. Doing the right thing should not come with restrictions nor unnecessary delays.
As for China, it's time to warn them that sanctions in the same ilk as the ones on Russia would come if they send lethal weapons. That is another one worthy of being treated as a pariah state if they keep on going down the road. In any case, their behavior in the last decade has been nothing short of what pariah states do.
It was obvious from the start that China will aid Russia in this war against western expansionism to the east. It is in their best interest.
Those bloody westerners poking their noses into everything, can't even have a good genocide these days.
If you like to support those dictatorships, go ahead and live there. You should not even enjoy the perks of capitalist and democratic life in the US.
I am enjoying perks of my hard work. I am also enjoying perks of of my ancestors first getting slaughtered in Jasenovac, then ethnically cleansed in August of 1995. I have no issue with organic capitalism, but I do have issues with US military industrial complex.
Those that complain how west is giving Ukraine weapons one spoon at the time. That is not a failure of Biden administration. That is the exact plan of Biden administration.
Russia and China should ask themselves why countries want to shift to the West.
Because if they don't shift to the west and allow forever growing expansionism, they get sprinkled with a bit of democracy.
Ah so Ukraine were getting invaded soon from the West right?
So Poland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Romania, Bulgaria, Finland and Sweden all joined/are joining NATO because of military threats fom the west?
So you think Putin - a totalitarian, fascist dictator is better than democracy do you ?
Can they afford to do the same to China, with all the manufacturing and such that takes place there?
What I find utterly pathetic from all of Putin's apologists is how clueless they are about history as a whole. The reason why those countries joined NATO at various points in time was the following of historical elements in this order: Russia's behavior during the First Chechen War, Russia's support for Milosevic's regime despite what was done in Kosovo, and now this in Ukraine.
The decoupling process is already advancing well. A good chunk of clothing I find in stores nowadays are made in other Asian countries, such as Cambodia for the most recent United shirt I bought. Also the recent measures on semi-conductors avoid a dependency on China for high-tech devices. Japan, by far the most important economic neighbor to China, have been moving most of their manufacturing away from China and back to the homeland.
Anyway, I'm not straying off-topic any further here.
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I do not think highly of Putin, no. One doesn't have to like Putin to be against western expansionism. I don't see this as goodies vs badies. It's one corrupt system against another fighting for control.
Brainwashed.
You seem to be confusing Russian expansionism as western expansionism. Remember, its Putin who thinks Ukraine isn't a real country (it is) and thinks it should be a part of Russia. He invaded because he's afraid Ukraine will be come a strong democratic country, which could weaken him domestically given that he's authoritarian. Therefore the correct way to look at this is that it is Putin who is fascist dictator seeking to invade his neighbors (Georgia, Ukraine, the Baltics, Moldova etc) if they don't capitulate to his demands. He is therefore the one in the wrong and must be defeated. It is up to the Ukrainian people to decide which direction they want to go in and they have done so. It is not up to Putin to decide what the public of a foreign nation have already decided for themselves.
@ExoduS why don’t you reply? Is it because your brainwashed brain can not put together a cohesive answer when confronted with a reasonable question?
This saying springs to mind ‘those who start burning books finish by burning bodies’
You could say so. I do not have a good answer why most of Europe is in NATO. I am curious what future has for that organization. Maybe they will conquer Russia eventually or collapse.
As we've seen in recent years, NATO has been both useful and needed in combating Putin's expansionist vision of a Russian Empire. Without the support of NATO, Ukraine would already be fully controlled by Putin right now. Once Putin and authoritarian Russia go away, the concept of NATO will have less meaning. Until then, it is not only needed, but essential in preventing Putin from invading Europe.
Most of Europe is in NATO because they know individually they could not win a war against Russia, however, given the Russian military performance in Ukraine one or two might think otherwise now
No. Countries are in NATO, because they don't want to have war against Russia and that's the sole reason more want to join.
It's nothing about who could take anyone on alone.
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Why do you think NATO was formed in the first place?
Time will tell. I hope we all live to see how this conflict shape the future of forever changing geo-political map of the World.
You seriously wonder why someone living in Latvia or Poland might currently be looking at Ukraine or previously looking at Georgia and then looking at their own countries and thinking why most of Europe is in NATO?
You could play the Königgrätzer Marsch in the background and yet it would not sound so out of place. Just sad.
Goose-stepping morons should try reading books instead of burning them.
It always baffles me how many of the apologists for Russia take a view in which Russia is not only a victim of Western agression, but they give the Ukrainian people no agency. No agency at all. They don't deserve to decide which way they want their country to be governed.
This is a central point, and I don’t understand how people miss it so casually.
Russia invading a neighbor = western expansionism
Mind blowing how someone can actually think like this.
It's not that they miss it. They deliberately ignore it. It goes against their narrative.
Sometimes you also hear the argument that the West should have just said "no" to these countries wishing to join NATO. Or specific to Ukraine: the people were fine with Yanukovych and Maidan was a Western plot.
This is their biggest mistake and it was also Putins biggest miscalculation leading to the war. It's not the west or NATO or the EU or the US that is standing up to the Russian aggression, it's the Ukrainian people that is doing it. 40 million people from all walks of life, trained soldiers to old babushkas, they are all doing their best to keep the Russians out. Sure the weapons that have been donated are helping a lot but even without those weapons the Ukrainians would still fight for every inch of their land no matter what anyone in Europe, America or Russia tells them.
Small update on Finnish Leopard tanks. The Finnish defence minister just said in an interview that Finlands participation in the Leopard coalition will be finalised in the comming days. He also said that he thinks Finland will contribute to both the German and the Polish battalion, Finland has both 2A4s and 2A6s in it's inventory.
Exactly, agency of Ukrainians is only ignored when they disagree with it. Yanukovych winning presidential election in 2010 has been used dozens of times in this thread to justify claiming that Russian-speaking Ukrainians actually support the invasion.
Bill Browder taking no prisoners here.