Russia's at it again

the change was necessary to bring domestic violence offenses into line with other battery charges. Russia decriminalized assault and battery that did not lead to actual bodily harm in 2016.

In a speech to the Duma Wednesday, Mizulina said: “In the traditional family culture in Russia, parent-child relationships are built on the authority of the parents’ power,” adding: “The laws should support that family tradition.”

So currently smacking your childs bum would be a criminal offence with up to 2 years in prison- but your neighbour wouldnt be committing a criminal offence?

In truth that probably does warrant some legislation (and you could of course argue you need to criminalise it both ways but in truth some consistency would seem needed)

“If you slap your mischievous kid, you’re threatened with up to two years [in prison]. But if your neighbor beats your child — everything ends with an administrative punishment,”

probably more nuanced and complex than the title headline suggests but we are not exactly in an age of balanced and nuanced reporting so yeah russia is legalising battering your wife half to death etc etc
 
The idea that assaulting anyone in your family should not carry any risk of being a criminal offence unless there's evidence of ABH is clearly abhorrent.

The same is true of assault on strangers fwiw. Can only assume that change in legislation was a reflection of Putin's alpha male macho bullshit.
 
The idea that assaulting anyone in your family should not carry any risk of being a criminal offence unless there's evidence of ABH is clearly abhorrent.

The same is true of assault on strangers fwiw. Can only assume that change in legislation was a reflection of Putin's alpha male macho bullshit.
possibly - as I say the strange one seems to be the reclassification of all non family assaults a few years ago which I certainly don't recall hearing about at the time - as it stands its a strange anomaly of law that would let you discipline my child but criminalise me for the same actions?
 
possibly - as I say the strange one seems to be the reclassification of all non family assaults a few years ago which I certainly don't recall hearing about at the time - as it stands its a strange anomaly of law that would let you discipline my child but criminalise me for the same actions?

It is an anomaly. One that came about because of the 2016 legislation. This most recent change isn't any less despicable because the ball was set rolling a while ago. Like I said, their whole mindset is regressive macho bullshit and it's clear that's coming from the top down.
 
Spanking children etc, is still legal in parts of the world, including the US. I'm more surprised that Russia decriminalized non-family assault that doesn't lead to actual bodily harm. What could be the reasoning behind that? Does it aid other politically supported moves, such as the victimisation of gays or Putin's persecution of political opponents?
 
Spanking children etc, is still legal in parts of the world, including the US. I'm more surprised that Russia decriminalized non-family assault that doesn't lead to actual bodily harm. What could be the reasoning behind that? Does it aid other politically supported moves, such as the victimisation of gays or Putin's persecution of political opponents?

Yet assaulting them would be a crimiinal offence. A protection that the Russian parliament voted in an overwhelming majority to remove.

The difference between justifiable spanking and criminal assault might be vague but I'd rather a court of law make that decision than take it out of their hands entirely.
 
Yet assaulting them would be a crimiinal offence. A protection that the Russian parliament voted in an overwhelming majority to remove.

The difference between justifiable spanking and criminal assault might be vague but I'd rather a court of law make that decision than take it out of their hands entirely.
How is spanking someone *not* assaulting someone? What's the difference? In some states, even merely touching a stranger can be classed as assault.
 
This article illustrates the work flow of how it was done. Nothing will be released in terms of hard information until the investigation is complete just before Obama leaves.

http://www.nytimes.com/news-event/russian-election-hacking

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/07/27/us/politics/trail-of-dnc-emails-russia-hacking.html?rref=collection/newseventcollection/russian-election-hacking
Unfortunately I didn't have much time to follow up on this, but we could continue now, with you having an extra month worth of new info and facts, I assume...

So what you're saying is, all what Russia is accused of right now, and the whole thing you're mad about was just revealing to the public how the democratic party operates? Is that what "rigged the whole election"? Is your "democracy" dependent to this extent on hiding the truth from the public and lying to them that the moment the people know what kind of sh*t they're voting for, it's broken?
 
Those fake stamps are great!
 
Richard Spencer hilariously playing the race card in defending Uncle Vlad

 
Putin seems to have been president for a while, do they have election over there? When will he be out of office? Do they have maximum period over there?

He'll be around indefinitely as long as he can change the rules about how long a leader can stay in power.
 
Read an article today that said Russian banks and the Central Russian Bank are getting clobbered by SWIFT hacks and other payments fraud. 2.87 billion roubles worth of these were attempted in early 2016 alone.

Estimates are that Russian banks lost 1.8 billion roubles between August 2015 and February 2016...all to a group known as Buhtrap.
 
Putin seems to have been president for a while, do they have election over there? When will he be out of office? Do they have maximum period over there?
You're allowed to be President for two consecutive terms, so when he finished his original two he switched over to Prime Minister instead and had Medvedev as President (in name), before coming back when he was constitutionally allowed to.
 
He'll be around indefinitely as long as he can change the rules about how long a leader can stay in power.

To be fair, even with completely open elections, Putin would probably win as long as he was allowed to run. He's quite popular. Russians are also a little bit different than us in the west, they seem to be more pragmatic, and a considerable number, perhaps not an outright majority, seem to prefer a strong leader, to a completely democratic one.
 
To be fair, even with completely open elections, Putin would probably win as long as he was allowed to run. He's quite popular. Russians are also a little bit different than us in the west, they seem to be more pragmatic, and a considerable number, perhaps not an outright majority, seem to prefer a strong leader, to a completely democratic one.

From what I know they dig a strong man at the helm. Putin would handily win open elections.