I don't think so. He just didn't think he was good enough.
SAF: Mourinho has done a great job
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He added the best players from France, Germany and Italy to his squad. Guys with a proven track record in terms of assists and goals. He is responsible for finding a solution to this problem. It was a problem last season, and it remains a problem. Hitting the post 22 times isn't bad luck.
There is no excuse for not finding a place for Tuanzebe on the bench. Thursday night is a good chance to do so. He would get to travel with the squad and witness and away atmosphere close up. Fosu-Mensah should have been loaned out if he wasn't planning on giving him more minutes. Nobody is saying he has to start every game. A few 20 minute cameos here and there would be a start. Schweinsteiger should not be taking up a place on the bench ahead of those two. Shaw and Martial's progress has stalled under him as well.
Mourinho has done well this year, although the goal scoring is a concern. I expect him to fix it this year and not wait to be bailed out by the summer signings next year.
ClassI think it's a hard fix, or one that will take a while to fix. You can work on it in training, but the pressure during the game is different and it gets to the players IMO. That's why Zlatan, who's mentally strong and can deal with pressure, has been our best player. Others lack Zlatan's self-belief
I got sad when I was reminded SAF is 75 at the top there.
What's bizarre about the management of Martial?
What's bizarre about the management of Martial?
He falls in and out of favour every fortnight. He's often dropped or rotated after showing signs of regaining his best form.
Another clueless football fan who just looks at the league table and not the whole picture. We are playing the best football we have played since SAF was in charge and if it was not for poor finishing would be up there with Chelsea maybe not top but a lot closer. If we keep play like we are in the longer term and when i say longer term i mean next season i fully expect us to be pushing for the title again.
Maybe. The way I've seen it is that he's not been a guaranteed starter because he's been pretty ineffective apart from a couple of good games. I think he's being managed well because it gives him a reason to fight to improve, like Fergie used to do to players. Avoiding players becoming complacent with poor performances is something we've been lacking and I'm glad is back. I think it'll do him good in the long run.
Trash.
Yeah no one ever celebrates a goal that draws their team level with a significant amount of time to get the winner. Just crazy behaviour, that.
Jose has been doing much better lately. It is obvious.
Saf said pretty much the same with lvg doing a good job last season as well. What was he suppose to say anyway?
The only interesting thing was he talked about youth players. I don't know what kind of context there was to talk about it.
Saf said pretty much the same with lvg doing a good job last season as well. What was he suppose to say anyway?
The only interesting thing was he talked about youth players. I don't know what kind of context there was to talk about it.
He's played rash and martial, he needs wins confidence and trophies. Worrying about youth will be the last thing on his mind right now as fergie said.
He needed the first team to perform better.
The goals are on the players making mistakes, the system is seeing us create a ton of chances.
Martial I agree, would be interesting to know what's going on behind closed doors
Not sure which one we're talking about; Firmino or Giroud. All I'm saying is that I love the culture SAF created (and José seems to "re-instate"), that draw is never good enough and I love it when the players' automatic reaction to scoring an equaliser is to get the ball and focus on scoring the winner.
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I understand being happy and celebrating a comeback (which shouldn't be finished) but just find those pre-thought celebrations in that kind of situations a bit stupid.
Not really
I wish Rooney was 21 now
I find 1-0 celebrations wierd, doesn't make any sense to me unless your a small team vs big boys in the fa cup. Just do some high fives, casually get to the half way line and re-focus. Score the 2nd goal and do what you want.
So if you score a 1-0 goal at the 87th minute away vs Pool in a game where a win will give you the title, just do some casual high fives?
Is this the first time he come out and praise a United manager since he left? I cant remember him praising Van Gaal or Moyes.
No he hasn't done a great job. A great job is challenging for the title, nothing less. We are talking about Manchester United here, not Liverpool.
I'm really getting tired of mediocre results being forced down our throats as "progress" or "the best we should expect". I remember when LVG finished 4th and many celebrated like it was a massive achievement. Then the following year, we finished 5th.
We need to start calling things as they are. Sitting in 6th place with one of the most expensive teams ever assembled and with a manager who has years of Premiership experience isn't a great job, its hugely under achieving. Lets start calling things what they are and expecting more from our club.
I'm really getting tired of mediocre results being forced down our throats as "progress" or "the best we should expect". I remember when LVG finished 4th and many celebrated like it was a massive achievement. Then the following year, we finished 5th.
We need to start calling things as they are. Sitting in 6th place with one of the most expensive teams ever assembled and with a manager who has years of Premiership experience isn't a great job, its hugely under achieving. Lets start calling things what they are and expecting more from our club.
I remember watching him in an interview on an American morning show and he had a lot of praise for LVG. He especially enjoyed the way he handled the media. He seemed to actually like him.
I cant remember anything about Moyes.
Anything SAF related love that guy.
love that guy.Did Ferguson really say that?!
It proves that spending money is not everything.
So next time we spend lot of money, keep your expectations low, so that you needn't think of the "money" argument in a discussion on performances.
A very good job yes, because we are watching football, not standing in the table.
He is laying ground works for a great team to emerge in a couple of years. It's a bit like us in 04-05. Drew too many. Hitting woodwork too many. And a couple of seasons later with proper additions .. Boom!
Yes, it is. An extreme bad luck.
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Seemed to make a small dig or hint to build the Club with youth too.
Fergie is right. The team is now playing in the image of its manager, and is displaying much more drive. We are resilient. We are scoring late equalisers and winners (Boro and Stoke are good examples of this spirit). We are also playing attacking football. We will win the EFL Cup and the Europa League which will not be a bad outcome given that it is Mourinho's first season (and a transitional one). We might still get back in the title reckoning. But the most promising thing is the foundations we are building. We need to be in a position to win the league next season and I am absolutely confident that we will win the league at a canter in Jose's second season.
Spot on from Fergie.
I just did not understand why people on here were losing their early on the season when it was obvious even then that it was going to be a matter of time
Not too bothered about the young players bit. The only young player good enough (Rashford) is getting loads of game time which is all I can ask for.
I just did not understand why people on here were losing their early on the season when it was obvious even then that it was going to be a matter of time
Not too bothered about the young players bit. The only young player good enough (Rashford) is getting loads of game time which is all I can ask for.
The main reason we're sat in 6th place instead of higher is because of the state van Gaal left us in. Mourinho took over a poor side low on confidence running into a brand new season, while still getting to know the players and his best team. It took him a couple of months to figure out his best side and to ride out a few bad results while he turned the teams confidence around and instilled a tougher mentality.
Here we are in January looking largely like he's done that, but the early results are holding us back. You really couldn't ask for any more looking at our current form.
I don't understand goal celebrations at all. You are just doing your job. People do not celebrate doing jobs. It just highlights EVERYTHING that is wrong with football!!!!
Pretty sure Ronaldo celebrated the third goal (3-2 up) where, at the time, we couldnt have known it was the winner.
Like I said previously, Giroud wasted precious seconds to celebrate his fecking scorpion kick from the match before. At least with Firmino, they had scored two within 15 mins of conceding two and had plenty of time for a winner.
Of course he didn't. If you've ever played team sports, it is quite natural to celebrate when you've come back from 0-2 to 3-2, lowers your opponent's morale even more. Re: Firmino, it is true that there was plenty of time to get the winner, I'm not saying he wasted precious time like Giroud did. It's more about what your natural reactions are - see United when equalising against Spurs with a lot of time on the clock.
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Jose like warriors in his side. He might just have doubts about Shaws dedication to keeping fit and Martial's mentality regarding his personal life, he might just be giving him time to get things sorted so his mind is completely clear.
I can understand the Firmino one as there was plenty of time left to get a winner. The Giroud one was stupid and cost his team the chance to get a winner, it was all about him. Wayne put the team first and wanted all three points.
I agree that there's a big difference between Giroud's and Firmino's.
I have to admit that I was slightly worried when I saw SAF was trending on Twitter this morning