SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)












…..what an absolutely crazy time we live in right now. I’m for everything and anything as long as it’s not forced at any people’s at the expense of their livelihood. “Involuntary”, as they like to call it.

What I find most outrageous is how somehow the general public for the most part has been convinced that these (corrupt) corporations and governments somehow are looking out for their best interests and have gladly handed over their own well being/life into the hands of these entities. It’s quite sad and shocking that at the end of it all, they can’t see it either gives those entities money or power. As if they care for your well being. Look at their track records.

& this is coming from someone who had cancer recently as 4 years ago. It sure as hell doesn’t mean I can’t be critical of said pharmaceutical manufacturers when things are going on in the world as they are.

PS — if you can’t see already, I’m not even talking about the drugs itself. Purely off the moral/ethics/humanity aspect of it all which is black and white as can be. If someone somehow disagrees with that, then there’s nothing really left to say.




Following Russell Brand is like some kind of idiot test.
 
Just cancelled our joint 40th party (the other half and myself, same day) for Saturday. because some of our guests although jabbed would definitely count as vulnerable, and others work in the NHS, and although they would have come are quite rightly nervous and didn't want to have them feeling bad if they decided not to come. Absolutely the right call imo but still beyond gutted. No football, no party, feck covid. (Im not fishing for sympathy, i know so so many have lost loved ones, jobs, and more besides, just need to vent at someone who wont feel bad about it)
My big 30th last year was cancelled, and my wedding had to be delayed. I feel your pain.
 
Got boosted. Moderna this time (Pfizer first two). Absolutely banging headache and general drowsiness but otherwise fine. Went for a walk in as my appointment was 29th and was seen in an hour. The queue was long but they were going through them very quickly. Nice to see people of all ages there trying to get their jab.
 
Had a really bad reaction to 2nd Pfizer- big fever, 10 days of sore swollen lymphnodes - booster has been way better. Just 3 days of soreness and no big fever spike.

No idea what that means with regards to protection mind.
 
Jaysus. Really? In my experience it’s impossible to swab your own sinuses with anything like the same enthusiasm as a professional.

I had assumed the same, but my university has now had 18 months of weekly self testing data from thousands of students and found no difference in positivity rates between self-swabs and external ones.
 
I had assumed the same, but my university has now had 18 months of weekly self testing data from thousands of students and found no difference in positivity rates between self-swabs and external ones.

There is one simple answer to this. The data is fake. :angel:
 
@jojojo

What’s testing capacity like in the Uk? In Ireland the delta surge has us rattling along at a positivity rate of just over 14% with at least a 24 hour wait to get a PCR test. 2 or 3 weeks back you would have had to wait a couple of days in some parts of the country.

If daily cases double or triple from here (which is inevitable?) there’s going to be a serious bottle-neck when it comes to getting tested. I guess we need to plan for how that works. Assume every viral illness is covid and isolate accordingly?
 
Just cancelled our joint 40th party (the other half and myself, same day) for Saturday. because some of our guests although jabbed would definitely count as vulnerable, and others work in the NHS, and although they would have come are quite rightly nervous and didn't want to have them feeling bad if they decided not to come. Absolutely the right call imo but still beyond gutted. No football, no party, feck covid. (Im not fishing for sympathy, i know so so many have lost loved ones, jobs, and more besides, just need to vent at someone who wont feel bad about it)
Me and most of my mates turned 40 last year. I'm not normally one for celebrating, but I had plans last year I was looking forward to. Little did I suspect that I'd be postponing it for 2 years at least.
 
Me and most of my mates turned 40 last year. I'm not normally one for celebrating, but I had plans last year I was looking forward to. Little did I suspect that I'd be postponing it for 2 years at least.

You are fooling no one, you will still be 42. :nono:
 
:lol:

He's Marvel I'm DC, but we're both the good guys. It's the Sinister Six that have it in for ole spidey!

On a serious note, what do you think about the packed cinemas though?
I was looking forward to going and watching this, but it might be the first film I'm bothered about that I'll not go out and see. I'm not sure I can feel comfortable wearing a mask for the best part of 3 hours while surrounded by strangers.
 
Just cancelled our joint 40th party (the other half and myself, same day) for Saturday. because some of our guests although jabbed would definitely count as vulnerable, and others work in the NHS, and although they would have come are quite rightly nervous and didn't want to have them feeling bad if they decided not to come. Absolutely the right call imo but still beyond gutted. No football, no party, feck covid. (Im not fishing for sympathy, i know so so many have lost loved ones, jobs, and more besides, just need to vent at someone who wont feel bad about it)
My big 30th last year was cancelled, and my wedding had to be delayed. I feel your pain.

Sorry to hear that. That sucks big time.

I've been doing my best to steer clear of big shops over these last few months, unless I absolutely need to go in. Popped into the local Co-op this morning to get some dinner on the way to work and was taken aback at just how many people weren't wearing masks. It was a 50-50 split. Fecking mental. Staff weren't wearing them either. No distancing either in the queues, or at least no attempt by people to distance. :wenger:
 
@jojojo

What’s testing capacity like in the Uk? In Ireland the delta surge has us rattling along at a positivity rate of just over 14% with at least a 24 hour wait to get a PCR test. 2 or 3 weeks back you would have had to wait a couple of days in some parts of the country.

If daily cases double or triple from here (which is inevitable?) there’s going to be a serious bottle-neck when it comes to getting tested. I guess we need to plan for how that works. Assume every viral illness is covid and isolate accordingly?
In theory I think capacity is about 800k PCR tests per day but actual tests done are below 600k. DIY swabs account for most of those, swabs done by healthcare staff maybe 100/150k per day.

From what I've heard, getting kits to people seems to be a bigger bottle neck currently than getting tests processed.
 
Is this true about camps in Australia? I live there and never heard of it

Yes it is. Probably because it’s not made mainstream. I have friends there that say the same thing. Unless you’re not following independent journalists that bring light onto this, it’s hard to know really.
 
Impossible to take you seriously when you follow and share tweets from so many obvious bad actors. You seem to be stuck in a particularly toxic echo chamber. This is not good for you. Please try and seek more diverse and better informed opinions.

Ok but you haven’t refuted anything I said. Very brave of you to assume such a thing about a stranger on the internet. Those are just a handful of sentiments I agree with. I could care less who it’s coming from.


That sentence alone disqualifies you from any serious discussion. It's an argument that's thrown around so often by the anti-vaxxers and it's simply stupid.
In a functioning society, mandatory regulations are needed. If, according to the current state of science, a vaccination helps to ensure that vital interventions and operations and the whole health sector can be carried out without delay, then it damn well has to be done. And if some idiots do not comply with this because they believe it would restrict their self-determination or freedom, then such a vaccination simply has to be compulsory. That's it, and there's no room for further discussion.

Again, no need to get yourself so uptight. If you didn’t get all fiery red eyed, you’ll see I didn’t speak ill of the drug. In fact I stated it. My post was only about the ethics and morals of all the ramifications coming as a result in so many different places in the world. “You’re the Nazi”, sounds even more comical when you replied with such moral high ground and authority assuming as much as you did. Actually remind me of the Australian official in that RBrand video in the tone your post came off…


Following Russell Brand is like some kind of idiot test.

LOLL. I used to think that too years ago. But he’s in fact turned out to be one of the best journalists out there. Sources everything clearly and his short videos are informative and to the point. So yea regardless of what your or anyone’s opinion is of him, doesn’t dispute the accurateness of his content/reporting :]
 
Yes it is. Probably because it’s not made mainstream. I have friends there that say the same thing. Unless you’re not following independent journalists that bring light onto this, it’s hard to know really.

can you link some of the journalists?
 
Yes it is. Probably because it’s not made mainstream. I have friends there that say the same thing. Unless you’re not following independent journalists that bring light onto this, it’s hard to know really.
To add context:
They are camps where primarily Ozzies returning from abroad are held until quarantine is passed and some occasional examples of outbreak control.

It is also covered in the mainstream media, most notably recently (very late Nov) in relation to the recent Howard Springs camp escape.

Australia, of course, has actual detention camps such as Manus Island and Nauru where people have been treated like shit for years as part of Australia's increasing hostile immigration policy, a model my country's home secretary has disgustingly proposed imitating for years.
 
can you link some of the journalists?

this Brand video covers a good portion of it and it’s sourced which will give a clear picture of it all. Sorry I’m just at work so hard to get the specific links. However if you would still like me to, I will do it later on in the day. Just didn’t want to leave you hanging right now :)



To add context:
They are camps where primarily Ozzies returning from abroad are held until quarantine is passed and some occasional examples of outbreak control.

It is also covered in the mainstream media, most notably recently (very late Nov) in relation to the recent Howard Springs camp escape.

Australia, of course, has actual detention camps such as Manus Island and Nauru where people have been treated like shit for years as part of Australia's increasing hostile immigration policy, a model my country's home secretary has disgustingly proposed imitating for years.

Yep. In my honest opinion, these camps are inhumane. Leave it to a certain nations to think they’re better than the rest of the world. It’s all in the name of safety and people’s best interest but it’s just a piss take if you ask a lot of folks. Most Australian’s are against these camps but they can’t do much as they were implemented without their consent (*hint hint, ramifications sound oddly familiar with a lot of other things). It’s also not just for returning citizens, they can and have arbitrarily picked and chosen anyone that’s been residing there. Regardless of if they have covid or were a close contact or even for “quarantining” for people who’ve come from abroad even if their covid tests show up as negative.

When they made the camps, like everything that’s marketed they showed it out to be a beautiful place. Reality is, it’s gloomy and literal cage for humans which their basic rights are stripped for no good reason. Places like the US will never have this because the people would fight before bowing down to such measures. It’s all really insane. So much ridiculousness. Zero morals or ethics.
 
Looks likely that Spider-Man will become a super villain this Christmas!

Nearly every screening I've looked at of the new movie from tomorrow (Wednesday 15th December) onwards, is half full at least or three quarters to full up completely.

Hundreds of people all queuing, buying food etc then sitting together for two and a half hours, most wont be mask wearing because they'll all be filling their faces and drinking, talking etc. Hopefully I'm wrong and it's not as bad as it sounds..

Spider-Man: Omicron Rises. Opens in cinema's everywhere from Wednesday 15th.

My spider sense is definitely tingling!
Yeah this is why I'm going at the drive-in.
 
LOLL. I used to think that too years ago. But he’s in fact turned out to be one of the best journalists out there. Sources everything clearly and his short videos are informative and to the point. So yea regardless of what your or anyone’s opinion is of him, doesn’t dispute the accurateness of his content/reporting :]

:lol::lol:
You know you're too far down the rabbit hole when Russel Brand is your most trusted source of information
 
:lol::lol:
You know you're too far down the rabbit hole when Russel Brand is your most trusted source of information

Could care less about labels or whomever it is and doesn’t discredit his accurately sourced content either.

if it makes you feel better though ;)
 
Beta was another immune escape variant, wasn’t it?

Just occurred to me. What would have happened if we had omicron straight off the bat? If it turns out to be less virulent than previous variants that will be mainly be driven by the protection against serious illness from past exposure and/or vaccination.

Mind boggling to think what virus as transmissible and potentially lethal as this could do in a completely naïve population.
Ya, Beta was really rough here. It would’ve ripped through everywhere very quickly - mass scale of what we saw early on in Italy I think (those pictures and videos are still harrowing over 18 months later). Honestly these vaccines are probably humanity’s greatest work of all time - not sure what comes close?
 
Ya, Beta was really rough here. It would’ve ripped through everywhere very quickly - mass scale of what we saw early on in Italy I think (those pictures and videos are still harrowing over 18 months later). Honestly these vaccines are probably humanity’s greatest work of all time - not sure what comes close?

Penicillin?
 
LOLL. I used to think that too years ago. But he’s in fact turned out to be one of the best journalists out there. Sources everything clearly and his short videos are informative and to the point. So yea regardless of what your or anyone’s opinion is of him, doesn’t dispute the accurateness of his content/reporting :]

He's not a journalist. He's a comedian, who uses overly complex language to make himself sound like he knows what he's talking about. He doesn't.
 
I know so many people who haven't had any vaccinations and still refuse to have them.
 
He's not a journalist. He's a comedian, who uses overly complex language to make himself sound like he knows what he's talking about. He doesn't.

Okay? Does that make any of the stuff he’s saying wrong or factually incorrect? If so, feel free to refute it.

Again what does it matter — some people seem to be so stuck on labels even if it’s more accurate reporting than more “credentialed” people. I guess a credentialed-wrong is more accurate than an uncredentialed-right with your logic. Whatever it was supposed to demean or discredit, holds zero water as far as I’m concerned using such straw man arguments (if one could even call it that).
 
Could care less about labels or whomever it is and doesn’t discredit his accurately sourced content either.

if it makes you feel better though ;)
Ya, Beta was really rough here. It would’ve ripped through everywhere very quickly - mass scale of what we saw early on in Italy I think (those pictures and videos are still harrowing over 18 months later). Honestly these vaccines are probably humanity’s greatest work of all time - not sure what comes close?

Combustion engine. Printing Press. The invention of musical notation. I could go on?