Probably jumping the gun here, but I’m starting to come around to the idea that this virus simply does not spread to the same degree in warmer climates. If it did, there would surely have been at least one severe outbreak in a tropical country that we’d know about by now?
SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
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Yea i agree. I think it is 2021 at best before this dies down. You might have peaks and troughs though. Where we think it is gone and then three months later it is back and so on.
Just had a brief skim, I need to really go through it all, but it seems like there's absolutely no help for me bar maybe a delay to pay my corp tax.
As expected, feck all use that's going to see loads of small business go under.
There were cases in Nigeria recently. I think it will take off there soon.
India is going to be a disaster i have read. Spanish flu killed about twenty million in india.
its rampant in the middle East
The problem is that you have to specifically test it, otherwise it's no different to the flu in terms of symptoms. And by personal experience in West Africa for example, they are a bit vague when it comes to giving a reason for death, they will easily go with "short illness".
Even Monaco's prince has tested positive.
Well yeah it's a totalitarian regime that occasionally does super evil stuff. Like extracting organs from prisoners or killing students and charging their families for the bullets. It's normal to feel that way.
Think they just mentioned 3400 in the UK I just heard on the news. May have misheard but sounded like that's what it was.
Edit: Ah never mind, think they may have been talking about Italy. Italy has 3405 deaths.
Edit: Ah never mind, think they may have been talking about Italy. Italy has 3405 deaths.
If this is true and i honestly have no idea if it is, countries will simply go bankrupt, people will lose homes, modern day life will change for 2 years dramatically and the world economy will be over.
3296 total they just had on Sky.
Only starting to get warmer now in the Middle East. Iran is mostly wet and cold throughout the winter and early spring.
Useful graphic on social distancing.
Irish science guy says the rise in cases is in line with projections, will be another week before we see the impact of measures already taken, no immediate plan to increase measures for the time being. 43 the median age of those confirmed with the virus, 2% of cases admitted to ICU.
That is what I meant by on/off stages.
Not necessarily. I don't mean a total lockdown for 2 years, that just won't happen, but I think something like Singapore/Korea is gonna happen. No mass gatherings (so RIP football), social distancing all the time, but people will go to work (while being careful), and kids will go to school (and being tested heavily). With partial temp lockdowns when the situations worsens.
It is clear that the virus will stay with us, so it is either herd immunity (with tens of millions of deaths, if we extrapolate Imperial college numbers to the entire world, it is 90m deaths), or we need to chill down for 2 years or so until the entire world gets vaccinated.
I don't why but there is something strange. If you look at the most affected regions in European it's basically the area between the Po Valley and North Rhine-westphalia, of course these regions are cold at this time of the year but they are also densely populated and have a lot of contact with the world through their industries.
There's a 38 day gap there.
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Useful graphic on social distancing.
This. This is what people need to be having rammed down their throats until they get it.
In U.K people are treating this (thus far) as a fecking holiday, busy streets, shopping etc.
Just stay the feck away from each other until we've started to get a handle on this.
What a boomer
It's clear that it's the WHO under the incompetent (bribed?) leadership of Tedros that has played a huge part in this current pandemic.
The fact is they repeatedly advised against travel bans early in the outbreak and refused to acknowledge a pandemic despite clear evidence (hence the 38 day gap)
Im not so sure, here in Northern Ireland we have mostly small to medium sized bussinesses, like alot of smaller countries, in 2 days we have seen 2,000 confirmed jobs go. Thats 2000 people straight onto benifit and 2000 people at rish of becoming homeless, and we all know the problem with social housing. Its a ripple effect that job loses will have, less money, not having lunch in cafes, spendign on luxeries etc.
Even if the lockdowns are only in spells that gives n stability for any bussiness to stay viable. Even big bussiness like car manufacture are closing, while this may not be permanant the impact on a local economy will be massive for a prolonged period of time.
There is an actual 38 day gap in WHO statements and positions on this outbreak or is it selective presentation by the incompetent (bribed?) creator of the visual?
676 new cases in the UK - puts us about 15 days behind Italy doesn't it?
IMF and EBRD already offered exact numbers for loans and rates to our country for solving economical problems. Fecking state of the people we leave on this Earth with, fecking capitalists.
Good luck, they're extending the quarantine period here and considering more restrictions than we already have, which are bad enough. I knew they'd have to run it well beyond Easter week, that's a big deal here and everyone would be outside if they were told they could socialise again.
If you look at deaths, which is more interesting because it isn’t influenced by testing, we’re about 14 days behind and the next 7 days (if we follow their trend) is where shit starts to go off. They went from about 150 to a 1000 in the same time frame
So what's todays news? Pretty much same as yesterday, no lockdown, just advising people not to gather?
Cheers. It was on my watch later list, will definitely watch it now.
Oh, there will be catastrophic economical consequences, don't get me wrong. I think the recession is gonna be the biggest recession since the big depression and will make the 2008 recession look cute in comparison.
But I do not see any other alternative until the vaccine comes. You either cull 1-2% of the population (which will crash the economy anyway), or you accept the recession. I don't see a third solution.
I genuinely feel like we're in this awkward situation where good results aren't yet visible while still being affected by the new social distancing rules. We're really fighting an invisible enemy here.
Is there any explanation why the speed of new infections is not decreasing? When is that expected to happen?
All my Mum's social circle are going on as normal. Line dancing, pubs, having coffees, planning to see families for Mother's Day. My mother is giving me shit for keeping her in. I'm fighting a losing battle.
fecking Boris the shitc**t isn't messaging firmly enough and it's going to be a disaster if we follow the Italy numbers.
fecking Boris the shitc**t isn't messaging firmly enough and it's going to be a disaster if we follow the Italy numbers.
Its truely a mess, a vaccine or at least a successful treatment is the only thing we can hope for.
At this stage blaming him is stupid. There has been so much information on this from various legit sources, if people don't listen to it, then they have only themselves to blame.
Boris is still a shitcnut though.
Social media posts from doctors and front line medical staff in Bangladesh points to a very big cover up of deaths... I think south Asia is fecked.
Does anyone have stats regarding seasonal flu deaths in Italy in a regular flu season? Wondering how those numbers compare with the current covid-19 numbers.
His briefings are far too jovial. He isn't getting the seriousness across and he should be leading by making the hard decisions.