SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)

spiriticon said:
The key to a low death rate then seems to be testing testing testing.

South Korea also test loads and have a remarkably low ICU/death rate
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The one thing I haven't seen from Germany is how many tests they have actually done.

Even this comprehensive report from Germany (Robert Koch) doesn't include testing numbers: https://www.rki.de/DE/Content/InfAZ...chte/2020-03-16-en.pdf?__blob=publicationFile

It does show that their age distribution of confirmed cases is quite different to other countries, but that doesn't mean much alone. Italy's confirmed cases skew much high in terms of age.
 
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Jippy said:
Same- three and a half weeks in Singapore and Australia and all's calm and fine, then come back to a shitstorm with lousy weather. Can you 'work from home' there on a laptop?
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Yes I can, and have been so far!

Im fine here, just worried about not being able to get back to UK, if UK border closes or I cant get a flight back because airlines all shut down.

Having said that, situation also very fluid in this part of the world. Malaysia suddenly announced last night that they close their border to all foreigners.

Thailand has cancelled its huge new year festival 'Sonkran' on 1st April, enforced shut down of major tourist areas in Bangkok and the main 'sin street' in Phuket is also virtually empty. Lots of rumours about imminent announcements floating everywhere.

Cambodia has just announced it wont allow people from many counties (UK is OK).

Just like in Europe, things went abit nuts since Monday, because of what happened in Europe over weekend.
 
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Dans said:
I very much doubt this reflects the reality. How can it given the rest of the world's fatality rates? They are simply not testing.
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Surely the opposite is the case - they are testing so much that the rate is brought down?
 
Ffs I thought Iran had closed the shrines a couple weeks ago:



 
spiriticon said:
The key to a low death rate then seems to be testing testing testing.

South Korea also test loads and have a remarkably low ICU/death rate
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Yes it sure helps. If you can test people with mild symptoms they might be more inclined to stay home, keep from others if they know they have covid 19 and not a common cold or whatever.
 
Fener1907 said:
Crikey. Okay, what if we just blast some Adele into the caves which would be like giving them a human virus as payback.
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They don’t like classical music actually. A farmer near where I grew up had the old barn where bats liked to live.
He put a radio in there with Classic FM on to drive them away. In the UK they’re a protected species so if they start living in your roof it’s illegal to dispose of them, you have to let them live in there. He later sold the barn for development. It was pretty eerie walking past the barn on those dark foggy nights with no one around with only classical music playing, especially before I knew the reason for it.
 
marktan said:
Very unlikely they'll stop entry for UK citizens abroad, don't think that'll be legally allowed?

My sister's in Columbia and coming back in 2 weeks, the worry she has is that Columbia closes their borders to foreigners, which causes a big reduction in flights coming in to Columbia, and subsequently as a result they send less planes out for money reasons and so her flight may get cancelled. Not sure how likely that scenario though
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Am in Thailand. That is now also my only and sole concern.
 
Countries are stopping to test aggressively, most realize that it is too late. Some countries just lack those tests. Take a look at Russia, the growth in new cases is horrifying and eastern part of the country is full of Chinese citizens. Crazy times.
 
sammsky1 said:
Yes I can, and have been so far!

Im fine here, just worried about not being able to get back to UK, if UK border closes or I cant get a flight back because airlines all shut down.

Having said that, situation is also very fluid in this part of the world. Malaysia suddenly announced last night that they close their border to all foreigners.

Thailand has cancelled its Massine new year festival 'Sonkran' on 1st April, enforced shut down of major tourist areas in Bangkok and the main 'sin street' in Phuket is also virtually empty. Lots of rumours about imminent announcements floating everywhere.

Cambodia has just announced it wont allow people from many counties (UK is OK).

Just like in Europe, things went abit nuts since Monday, because of what happened in Europe over weekend.
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If you've got the funds I'd defo stay there, worse places to be trapped. I went there a few years ago and cannot imagine the strip being quiet- my first night there I saw two ladyboys having a massive bust up.
 
Did I miss his answer or did Boris just ignore the question about school closures ?
 
TMDaines said:
The one thing I haven't seen from Germany is how many tests they have actually done.
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We are not testing at all. Probably only seriously ill patients.

Experts think our infections are 10 to 20 times higher than the actual numbers (8k+).

Our death rate seems fake to me, i think our first death was a few days ago, which seemed unrealistic to me already.


First person in Cologne died to coronavirus today. :(
 
Maybe I'm being unfair because addressing the nation probably doesn't come under the job description, but I don't know if it's a good look for the CMO to look incompetent even though he was sharing a stage with Johnson.
 
Withnail said:
Didn't they restrict incoming visitors very early on, partnered with extremely aggressive testing/tracing/quarantine?

Their approach so far has negated the need for lock down.

It's too late for that in other countries.
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They did, but also they have a top class health service, people are looking at infection rates which really now are pointless as we dont really know how much testing is going on. Germany also doing well while infection rates are higher their death rate is low and crtically ill is low. This is what we need to emulate now.
 
OutlawGER said:
We are not testing at all. Probably only seriously ill patients.

Experts think our infections are 10 to 20 times higher than the actual numbers (8k+).

Our death rate seems fake to me, i think our first death was a few days ago, which seemed unrealistic to me already.


First person in Cologne died to coronavirus today. :(
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Some Italian virologist speculated that there’s a difference in postmortem classification e.g. not classing people with comorbidities as having died from it or something.
 
InLevyITrust said:
They did, but also they have a top class health service, people are looking at infection rates which really now are pointless as we dont really know how much testing is going on. Germany also doing well while infection rates are higher their death rate is low and crtically ill is low. This is what we need to emulate now.
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Germany is NOT doing well. Only yesterday it felt as if 1/4 of my town was out in the park enjoying the sunshine. Germany is seriously late in doing anything about this - we even had local elections all over Bavaria on Sunday. Madness. They are either not testing or not reporting.
 
Jippy said:
If you've got the funds I'd defo stay there, worse places to be trapped. I went there a few years ago and cannot imagine the strip being quiet- my first night there I saw two ladyboys having a massive bust up.
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I'm at a place called Soi TaiEd, which is now basically the worlds fitness 'Mecca'. Its a 1km long road/village which has 8 mega gyms catering to all fitness sports ranging from MMA, Muay Thai, boxing, BJJ, cross fit, HIIT, weightloss boot camps etc, supported by loads of healthy eating restaurants, sports/non dodgy massage houses and cheapish accommodation. Place is full of like minded people: want to get fit through to elite fighters getting ready to become professional.

Its bliss for me right now: I do cross fit and powerlifting: workout 2 or 3 times a day, great food, new people all with common interests. Beach is 10 min ride away. Sin Street 25 mins away, if that floats your boat!

Coming back to UK sounds like nightmare!!
 
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Boris has fecked you over in GB.
Lack of action last week looks like such a bad move now
 
My parent are still on their month long Australia trip.
I dont think they have any intention coming back at the present time.
They're staying with family and seem to be having a fabulous time. :lol:
 
sammsky1 said:
I'm at a place called Soi TaiEd, which is now basically the worlds fitness 'Mecca'. Its a 1km long road/village which has 8 mega gyms catering to all fitness sports ranging from MMA, Muay Thai, boxing, BJJ, cross fit, HIIT, weightloss boot camps etc, supported by loads of healthy eating restaurants, sports and non dodgy massage houses and cheapish accommodation. Place is full of like minded people: want to get fit through to elite fighters getting ready to become professional.

Its bliss for me right now: I do cross fit and powerlifting: workout 2 or 3 times a day, great food, new people all with common interests. Beach is 10 min ride away. Sin Street 25 mins away, if that floats your boat!

Coming back to UK sounds like nightmare!!
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Stay there if you’ve got the cash, sounds like heaven :drool:
 
Pretty much everyone I work with who has kids (manchester) is saying their schools have closed today. Might not be a government instruction but looks like most schools are making the decision themselves.
 
Dans said:
Germany is NOT doing well. Only yesterday it felt as if 1/4 of my town was out in the park enjoying the sunshine. Germany is seriously late in doing anything about this - we even had local elections all over Bavaria on Sunday. Madness. They are either not testing or not reporting.
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If thats true its worring but would they really cover up reason for death?
 
sammsky1 said:
Fair and very valid points. Thanks for honest objectivity.
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Just be careful in airports, try to find gloves and masks and touch nothing unnecessarry. Also be a bit more paranoid and think about often washing your hands during your travel.
 
Revan said:
I know, but starvation is hardly an option. I don’t touch them, and then wash my hands immediately. I know it is not an ideal situation.
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On the bright side, if you've been eating American take away every day since you moved there, you'll probably die of something else before the virus gets you.
 
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