SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)

So I’m in work today, there must be between 300-400 staff who work here. People coming back from Spain just working away as usual, fire alarm goes off and now 300+ people are stood grouped up in the car park.

Absolute fecking shambles.
 
JPRouve said:
It's a flawed fact, the vast majority of people don't have their IQ tested now and almost no one had it tested in the past. And the test itself is flawed.
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This, from my understanding it was developed to show people who were struggling, so works quite well for discovering people who are mentally disabled but not very well beyond that.
 
MaxiPaxi said:
I'm just parroting this info by the way but to me it feels like people are less intelligent, certainly going by the way we're acting now. Anyway full article is in the link below.

"A defining trend in human intelligence tests that saw people steadily obtaining higher IQ scores through the 20th century has abruptly ended, a new study shows.



The Flynn effect – named after the work of Kiwi intelligence researcher James Flynn – observed rapid rises in intelligence quotient at a rate of about 3 IQ points per decade in the 20th century, but new research suggests these heady boom days are long gone."

https://www.sciencealert.com/iq-sco...telligence-boom-flynn-effect-intelligence/amp
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Norwegian teenagers don't need to perform in school to have a safe and resourceful life(far from anyone, but on average which drags the average score down). Incidentally, the scores started to drop off some time after they found oil and the life standard/social security increased... It is one of the fallacies of having too much welfare. Welfare/social security should be cornerstone in any modern society, but to much makes the population lazy, unambitious and costly over time. While there are no longitudinal studies as far as I know about this, I reckon one would see the same development in some animal populations if they would never need to search/hunt for food or hide from animals higher up in the foodchain over time or 1/2 generations.
 
This is why government has to take action.

These guys have to go to work else they don;t get paid.

The construction companies won't shut down until they have to, because they will be on massive penalties for any schedule delays on the project.

And this is what that means in practice.

 
Castia said:
So I’m in work today, there must be between 300-400 staff who work here. People coming back from Spain just working away as usual, fire alarm goes off and now 300+ people are stood grouped up in the car park.

Absolute fecking shambles.
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I work inside a busy warehouse employs upwards of 3000 people and no sign of slowing down.
 
People really need to stop taking every out of context picture tweeted with a clearly agenda-fuelled caption as gospel. Piers Morgan is a fecking nightmare for it.
 
Castia said:
So I’m in work today, there must be between 300-400 staff who work here. People coming back from Spain just working away as usual, fire alarm goes off and now 300+ people are stood grouped up in the car park.

Absolute fecking shambles.
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What?! Where is that?
 
Red_toad said:
No longer survival of the fittest. Lazy dumb people like to reproduce and spawn children with similar values toward society and their futures.
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MaxiPaxi said:
That was my thought process. Smarter people are busy building careers etc. Don't have time for families and when they do it's planned around financial situations. Then on the other hand you get bums just spawning next generation yobs by the dozen. Of course this is all just conjecture but it certainly feels like it.
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Weird analogy during these times fellas. Do you want it to be survival of the fittest or do you want to wait out a vaccine?
People appear to finally be coming around to the science behind this, this isn’t going away. We lost our chance when it was in Wuhan, and we all now know we should have sealed off China.
Lockdowns will give hospitals time to prepare better (buy them time if you like), but I don’t see them as any long term solution.
 
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https://www.mdpi.com/2077-0383/9/3/841/htm
 
Apparently lots of people are reporting a loss of sense of smell and taste.

Permanent damage is scary, really don't want that happening. Might just be a temporary thing while you're infected though, don't know.
 
Offside said:
People really need to stop taking every out of context picture tweeted with a clearly agenda-fuelled caption as gospel. Piers Morgan is a fecking nightmare for it.
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Assuming that is aimed at me.

Dan Dobson is a Union rep, so what exactly do you believe his agenda is beyond the welfare of those workers?
 
Nogbadthebad said:
This is why government has to take action.

These guys have to go to work else they don;t get paid.

The construction companies won't shut down until they have to, because they will be on massive penalties for any schedule delays on the project.

And this is what that means in practice.

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I’m a self employed electrician that sub contracts to a company and we’ve got a few sites like this. Luckily I’m working elsewhere but the building I’m in probably isn’t much better. Think everyone who I work with is just waiting for the order to stop now and hopefully a little help from the government.
 
Jack-C20 said:
I’m a self employed electrician that sub contracts to a company and we’ve got a few sites like this. Luckily I’m working elsewhere but the building I’m in probably isn’t much better. Think everyone who I work with is just waiting for the order to stop now and hopefully a little help from the government.
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Good luck mate.

And yes, in addition to forcing the site closures, they need to do something for all self employed in general and IR35 workers in particular.

The easiest thing would be to just pay everyone a flat rate of national average wage, so £500 or so a week for the duration I should imagine. The fairest would be to go on past earnings, but I think that would be too complex and time consuming to get done quickly for everyone.
 
I think our disaster planners need to rethink what they've been doing. Aren't we supposed to have people who make plans every few years for horror stuff like this?
 
Grinner said:
I think our disaster planners need to rethink what they've been doing. Aren't we supposed to have people who make plans every few years for horror stuff like this?
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Yup.

They even did a complete scenario for a flu type pandemic in 2016.

The results said we are under-prepared, the NHS didn't have the equipment or manpower.

Nothing was done to solve it.
 
Nogbadthebad said:
Good luck mate.

And yes, in addition to forcing the site closures, they need to do something for all self employed in general and IR35 workers in particular.

The easiest thing would be to just pay everyone a flat rate of national average wage, so £500 or so a week for the duration I should imagine. The fairest would be to go on past earnings, but I think that would be too complex and time consuming to get done quickly for everyone.
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Yes exactly. I dread to think of the poor buggers that are doing all the work behind the scenes to get pay sorted out for people whilst they’re off work. There’s going to be millions of people soon who’ll need sorting out.

I’m lucky to be in a position where money has never been a huge concern of mine as long as I have enough to get me by. It’s the people with families to support who I feel for. Going to be an interesting week I think.
 
klayton88 said:
Is there an update on your colleague mate?
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They tested his blood and said he had a virus but it "wasn't too bad" so he should just go home. 3 weeks later they actually took it seriously when he still wasn't feeling too super (but no longer had breathing difficulties) and gave him the proper Covid-19 test for which he came up negative. They then contacted him again last week asking if they could test his blood for antibodies as they think he might have had it and then got a 2nd virus at which point he tested negative for it. Haven't heard the results yet but if he did have it I am probably a super spreader since I was with him in China and sit next to him in the office and I (until last week) took the train to work every day from London. So yeah, I might be living evidence of the government's abject failure at contact tracing.
 
Classical Mechanic said:
Had to laugh doing my Asda shopping online, the only baked beans they have in stock are the Heinz 'no added sugar' variety. People don't seem to like the healthy option even in times of pandemic panic buying.
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You wouldn't be laughing if you tasted them.
 
MaxiPaxi said:
I'm just parroting this info by the way but to me it feels like people are less intelligent, certainly going by the way we're acting now. Anyway full article is in the link below.

"A defining trend in human intelligence tests that saw people steadily obtaining higher IQ scores through the 20th century has abruptly ended, a new study shows.



The Flynn effect – named after the work of Kiwi intelligence researcher James Flynn – observed rapid rises in intelligence quotient at a rate of about 3 IQ points per decade in the 20th century, but new research suggests these heady boom days are long gone."

https://www.sciencealert.com/iq-sco...telligence-boom-flynn-effect-intelligence/amp
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It is important that the balance between Omega 3 and Omega 6 in our diet be maintained at a maximum ratio of 1:1.
Delta 5 enzyme should only be converting 20:4 into 20:5. The omega 6 pathway should end at 20:3.
An overload of Omega 6 leads to Delta 5 enzyme converting 20:3 to 20:4 in the Omega 6 pathway and no EPA and DPA is being formed in the Omega 3 pathway.
All processed foods are pumped full of Omega 6 vegetable oils. The end result is a population of unhealthy and stupid people.
If everyone was to change their diet and eat nothing but vegetables (green vegetables in particular) and fish (fish devoid of Omega 6 vegetable oils only) then the population would be far more healthy and far more intelligent.
So why is that not the case?
 
Grinner said:
Are the Spain numbers for today? Doesn't that seem early for reporting?
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I don't think it's the number of new cases today specifically but rather the number of new cases/deaths since they last reported yesterday, so basically over the last 24 hours. Seems each country does it at a different time. Italy is around 5pm I think?
 
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