SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)

Nogbadthebad said:
So, just had an email from a hobby shop saying they are preparing for completely shutting down for 5 weeks starting on Thursday.

I suspect they've already been told to do this and they have come out before the official announcement.

They say:
  • We are making plans for a Government enforced 5-6 week despatch operation shutdown
  • We are acting as if this will commence on Thursday 26th March
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Can't really see that happening
 
Rhyme Animal said:
Wasn't being reported at all though in any official sources throughout all this, 'til very recently.



I don't think the people describing this symptom, as in the video that @Rado_N posted are simply suffering from a 'blocked nose'.

I've had chronic sinusitis for over a year and a permanently blocked nose because of it, but can still taste / smell.

People are describing a complete loss of smell and taste that continues after they've recovered.
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We can only speculate, but I've had similar experiences several times during my life when struggling with a cold or similar illness. It's that typical, constant, never-changing but slightly foul sense of smell and taste that I've come to associate with illness. It's so constant that I can imagine other people experiencing it as a loss of taste and smell. As to why they're only reporting it now? Could be that initially no one thought it worth mentioning until someone said it and several other people started thiking "you know what, that's also what I'm experiencing". Or perhaps it's a slightly different strain, it's hard to tell at this point. It would be premature to start drawing any conclusions just yet I'd think.
 
Rhyme Animal said:
Wasn't being reported at all though in any official sources throughout all this, 'til very recently.
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Nothing was reported until recently and ageusia is one of the possible symptoms for pneumonia but also the flu and a simple cold, and in general inflammation of the respiratory system. It was probably under reported because it's not remarkable, the patient needs to actually complain about it and we didn't had a lot of cases.
 
Hancock on his feet in the Commons, very impressive performance and man on top of his brief... funny never rated him before, "cometh the hour cometh the man".
 
Ainu said:
Yeah I read that earlier, it's a fascinating read. The most important conclusion is that buying time right now by imposing heavy measures will be invaluable to be much better equipped by the time we relax those measures. Higher availability of personal protection equipment, faster, more reliable and more widespread testing, better and more focused treatment of patients, more ingrained good practices by the public to avoid spreading the infection and a general greater knowledge about the virus. It boils down to, would you rather fight the peak empty-handed right now or use all of the aforementioned weapons to fight it in a couple of months? I know what option I'd pick.
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Yes indeed. It beggars belief, how blasé the attitude from government has been towards human life, and front line workers.
We have 2 weeks worth of infected, yet to hit the hospitals. We need to cap that last week.
 
ryansgirl said:
That's scary but don't take individual experiences out of context yet.
I spoke to somebody the other day who is fairly sure they experienced the new virus in January this year after going home for vacation via Hong Kong in December.
It was around 17 days after they were around in HK for their layover.

Back at work they felt strange, had digestive problems and a small gastro-intestinal problem, felt nauseous and had chills. This lasted about 5 days.
The chills showed infection but some people's temperature doesn't rise - it goes down as the body's way of fighting infection varies from person to person.
They think they might have had COVID-19 but its effect was different from some usual symptoms. This person is rarely sick and seems to have a great immune system.
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Isn't it pretty unlikely for them to have caught it in December? Maybe they had a really bad flu. I had one and I rarely ever get sick as well.
 
Apologies for a stupid question, how do I clean banknotes? Lots of shopping in Uzbekistan is still done by using cash. No jokes about money laundering, please.
 
Water Melon said:
Apologies for a stupid question, how do I clean banknotes? Lots of shopping in Uzbekistan is still done by using cash. No jokes about money laundering, please.
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Wear gloves, wash your hands when you've finished.

Got to be honest, the amount of people I've seen hawking up a lung infront of the card machines in shops, I've been using cash as much as possible too.
 
Water Melon said:
Apologies for a stupid question, how do I clean banknotes? Lots of shopping in Uzbekistan is still done by using cash. No jokes about money laundering, please.
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If you can gather as many of these Uzbekistan bank notes as possible and then send then to me I can arrange to cleanse them thoroughly and send them back to you. It might be an idea to get all your friends and family (and anyone else you bump into to) to do the same thing as I provide this service free of charge. Just remember to send me a stamped address envelope. Lets all contribute to staying safe.
 
Verminator said:
A long but worthwhile read.
Covid-19 strategy

https://medium.com/@tomaspueyo/coronavirus-the-hammer-and-the-dance-be9337092b56
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Until a few weeks, Tomas Pueyo was just another Silicon Valley entrepreneur. He has no background or credentials in this whatsoever.

It might still be an interesting read, but it's a Medium article from a rent-a-mouth, rather than the work of someone who should have any influence whatsoever on what strategies governments should pursue.
 
golden_blunder said:
The general public are like lemmings. They need to be led and told literally what to do. It’s about time the governments realized this very simple fact and stopped with the ambiguous, wishy washy messaging. Lock it down. Give them access cards to go to the shop in turns. Anyone else on the street? Arrest them, shoot them I don’t care.
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Agreed.
 
Rhyme Animal said:
Absolutely terrifying...

The loss of taste / smell development is also very, very odd.
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My friend who's had the symptoms for the last 2 weeks (fever, cough) has completely lost his appetite and says the taste and smell of food revolts him.
 
rpitroda said:
Does anyone know of any reputable sources which explain why the death toll within the US and Germany are considerably less (relative)?
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I posted something before I think (not sure if this thread) from an FT piece I read (sheer fluke, don't read FT all the time).

Germany have more tests which include more young people (as opposed to a lot of countries which are priority driven and have a higher % of older people).

More tests = more cases, but

More young people = less deaths (from positive cases)

So death rate lower per case
 
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Anyone else got this channel on their telly? No idea where it came from or who's in charge of it. They're playing relaxing music but every time there's an update they're using something resembling the 24 theme song :lol:
 
Rado_N said:



Doctors in the US basically ruled out Coronavirus because he hadn’t been to China recently :wenger:
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The worrying this is he's not cleared yet, and I think there's about a month since he initially got the symptoms? Does this suggest the virus can lay dormant in cases - similar to HIV?
 
I reckon the lock down we will see implemented tonight will be the London Boroughs.
 
I get chronic sinusitis and my taste and smell are nearly always reduced with an attack making them disappear completely. Seems a normal symptom that one might have with this.
 
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