Medical woman on news said it yesterday and it could be anything upto 6 months.
Will drive people up the wall being inside for 6 months.
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Medical woman on news said it yesterday and it could be anything upto 6 months.
Will drive people up the wall being inside for 6 months.
How long do we expect to be in lockdown?
Taken from Italy, where lockdown was gradually tightened to the whole county between 8 and 10 March, and then on 20 March tightened even further to exclude all non essential outdoor movement. The highest number of cases was reached 13 days after 8 March, and 22 days later the government is finally saying whilst we are still right at the peak, there is a downward trend emerging, especially in hard hit areas that took the lockdown seriously from day 1.
China hit their peak almost 6 weeks ago and are only now emerging from restrictions in badly hit areas. Their downward trend was also slower than the initial growth (ignore that one day where they changed the testing criteria).
I'd say based on that, Italian restrictions won't be relaxed until May and the UK is a couple of weeks behind, at least.
Taken from Italy, where lockdown was gradually tightened to the whole county between 8 and 10 March, and then on 20 March tightened even further to exclude all non essential outdoor movement. The highest number of cases was reached 13 days after 8 March, and 22 days later the government is finally saying whilst we are still right at the peak, there is a downward trend emerging, especially in hard hit areas that took the lockdown seriously from day 1.
China hit their peak almost 6 weeks ago and are only now emerging from restrictions in badly hit areas. Their downward trend was also slower than the initial growth (ignore that one day where they changed the testing criteria).
I'd say based on that, Italian restrictions won't be relaxed until May and the UK is a couple of weeks behind, at least.
Big businesses around the world are the absolute scum of the earth, but if I was given this story and had to pick the one country I thought this happened in, my first guess would always be America.
No, the shares have bottomed out!
It's about touching surfaces then touching your face, not the virus going through your skin.
Without carrying hand sanitizer, I wear gloves, it can help remind you, as I stated clearly, to not touch your face. It can also prevent me cross contaminating my car and having to wipe it down. I've not seen hand santizer available anywhere and use soap and water at home. I use gloves outside for clearly stated reasons. Masks can help train you too as he says.
Watch the video.
The Deputy CMO said it in the briefing yesterday, but it was framed more like a warning than it being an announcement. Either way they're going to review it at Easter and then decide from there, but from what she said, we're looking at, at least the next three months of the current restrictions.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...-last-six-months-deputy-chief-medical-officer
I am Nigerian so will use Nigeria as an example. We have wet markets(live animals) not to the extent of the Chinese who sell live wild animals. Ours are mainly cattle and chicken. I cannot imagine a situation where Nigeria no longer has any wet markets. It's ingrained in the culture. Some people just refuse to buy any meat that is dead. To ensure it is fresh, they buy it live.
I don't k ow what motivates the Chinese.
Please...please take them to court.
Don't think she said full lockdown for six months, but the measures to some extent could be here till then.
I can't imagine complete social distancing will be a thing for the entirety, at some point groups of 2-3 meeting up will be permitted as some sort of middle ground.
It's pretty much the exotic animals that are the problem. From snakes to bats, deer, pangolins etc.
Fair enough. I am watching the video now and feel reassured that it chimes with my current understanding.
I have plenty of hand sanitiser for outside and enough masks. I have zero suitable gloves though!
Never seen those in Nigeria. Just the usual, cattle, chicken, turkey and pigs.
5 min walk from Mulhuddart village
Are you in ireland?
really poor choice by the carer there. Have the company not spoken to them about staying out of the care home if they have any symptoms?
If it is Covid-19 it’ll spread quickly throughout that care home
Probably not the right place to ask, but does anyone know if a BlueLightCard is acceptable to get in to the supermarkets in NHS hour?
I use single use gloves when I go to buy food. Only so that when I am finished, I take of the gloves and throw them in a bin, and if I then forget myself and touch my eyes (which is an old habbit of mine) then I at least do not have anything on my hands. Other than that, little use for the gloves.
Here in Norway nobody have been able to buy personal PPE or hand sanitizer since this began, it was hoarded in one day and we produce so little ourselves, having outsourced so much of our industries. I think it would have made a huge difference if people could actually get their hands on protective equipment.
For me the only risk is when I go to the supermarket, otherwise many healthcare workers aming my relatives so I do not see my sister or brother etc.
When it comes to the Covid-19 not being airborne. Yes, not airborne. BUT.. it is kind of borne on air. Studys have earlier showed that air in closed small compartments like toilets etc, where an infected has been can be contagious, also that other cases can appear where covid-19 aerosols can be blown up and into the air, from for example a toilet being flushed or other different scenarios. Of course hospitals have the worst of these scenarios with all the respirator equipment and infected patients, but I do think one should be really careful in small shops with air circulation keeping the air moving, or small compartments like small toilet rooms at gas stations and shops.
When it comes to shopping, we all know Covid-19 can survive for a long time on plastic, and most foodproducts are packed in plastic so disinfecting those, especially when living in a really conatimated area, should be done imo. Also fruit. Some people do touch the fruits to turn them over and see if they are rotten or have marks. So I avoid fruits, if they are not packed in bags. In my local shop they now pack oranges in plastic bags to avoid this. Apples though, not, so I have stopped buying them.
I also found out that I am allergic to soap perfume
Had to buy new soap, since all the washing made my hands look like a crater I am so lucky to live in the outskirts of my town below the forrest and mountain here, so during the summer I am going to spend a lot of time in the wilderness, picking berries and mushrooms and spending a lot of time out in the wild with my son, camping in tent, fishing etc. No people to meet far out in the wilds. Just have to wait for the snow to begone and the temperatures to rise a bit
Unlikely. The question is why would you try. Any NHS employee will have an ID badge
They appear to be selling cats, dogs, pangolins and bats right there and we are still in the middle of a pandemic. The only difference being no photography allowed.
I've been wondering how long we can expect to be in lockdown recently, for me this is week 6 of home working/social distancing/isolation/whatever you want to call it, and week 4 of actual lockdown.
Taken from Italy, where lockdown was gradually tightened to the whole county between 8 and 10 March, and then on 20 March tightened even further to exclude all non essential outdoor movement. The highest number of cases was reached 13 days after 8 March, and 22 days later the government is finally saying whilst we are still right at the peak, there is a downward trend emerging, especially in hard hit areas that took the lockdown seriously from day 1.
China hit their peak almost 6 weeks ago and are only now emerging from restrictions in badly hit areas. Their downward trend was also slower than the initial growth (ignore that one day where they changed the testing criteria).
Obviously the absolute numbers are all going to be off, but as long as the testing criteria stay the same in each country, it gives a representation of the trend. These are the figures the Italians are using and the Chinese used to assess the effectiveness of the measures they had put in place.
I'd say based on the above, Italian restrictions won't be relaxed until May and the UK is a couple of weeks behind, at least.
Taken from Italy, where lockdown was gradually tightened to the whole county between 8 and 10 March, and then on 20 March tightened even further to exclude all non essential outdoor movement. The highest number of cases was reached 13 days after 8 March, and 22 days later the government is finally saying whilst we are still right at the peak, there is a downward trend emerging, especially in hard hit areas that took the lockdown seriously from day 1.
China hit their peak almost 6 weeks ago and are only now emerging from restrictions in badly hit areas. Their downward trend was also slower than the initial growth (ignore that one day where they changed the testing criteria).
Obviously the absolute numbers are all going to be off, but as long as the testing criteria stay the same in each country, it gives a representation of the trend. These are the figures the Italians are using and the Chinese used to assess the effectiveness of the measures they had put in place.
I'd say based on the above, Italian restrictions won't be relaxed until May and the UK is a couple of weeks behind, at least.
1 in 20 (approx) admitted to hospital. Which is what I said.
So, cummings has symptoms and is self isolating.
These people weren't even practicing what they preached behind closed doors.
In a sensibly run business, even a smaller one, senior management will never fly together on the same plane. This should have been approached the same way.
Johnson and hancock shouldn't have been in the same room since January.
These people weren't even practicing what they preached behind closed doors.
In a sensibly run business, even a smaller one, senior management will never fly together on the same plane. This should have been approached the same way.
Johnson and hancock shouldn't have been in the same room since January.
I think it’s going to be minimum until the end of May and realistically until the end of September. Then places like restaurants will open but with limited capacity and additional safety measures. By mid-2021 we could be back to normal with people back in stadiums and crowded pubs.I've been wondering how long we can expect to be in lockdown recently, for me this is week 6 of home working/social distancing/isolation/whatever you want to call it, and week 4 of actual lockdown.
Taken from Italy, where lockdown was gradually tightened to the whole county between 8 and 10 March, and then on 20 March tightened even further to exclude all non essential outdoor movement. The highest number of cases was reached 13 days after 8 March, and 22 days later the government is finally saying whilst we are still right at the peak, there is a downward trend emerging, especially in hard hit areas that took the lockdown seriously from day 1.
China hit their peak almost 6 weeks ago and are only now emerging from restrictions in badly hit areas. Their downward trend was also slower than the initial growth (ignore that one day where they changed the testing criteria).
Obviously the absolute numbers are all going to be off, but as long as the testing criteria stay the same in each country, it gives a representation of the trend. These are the figures the Italians are using and the Chinese used to assess the effectiveness of the measures they had put in place.
I'd say based on the above, Italian restrictions won't be relaxed until May and the UK is a couple of weeks behind, at least.
Why do you say that?
Here you have to wear plastic disposable gloves in the supermarkets.
You don't know who has washed their hands before they go around touching all the food and packaging in the store. If you make everybody wear gloves at least you know those grubby hands won't be placing the virus on a tin of beans where it can sit waiting until the next person picks it up. Even if you wash your hands when you get home and after unpacking everything, the virus could still be there when you take the can out of the cupboard to eat it.
Ouch. And we reckon Johnson is bad. It could be worse, Macron might be in charge. BBC are reporting that French death figures are underestimated. Reason is that Covid 19 deaths that occur in hospital are recorded in daily figures but not those dying in care homes/retirement homes. Indications are that French figures have been seriously under reported. Very sad and worrying. Does highlight that it is almost impossible to compare data between countries.
Sounds like a false sense of security to me. People are going to contaminate the gloves putting them on. Some will still touch their face etc.
Spain +812 in the past day to a total of 7,340 deaths.
Confirmed cases +6,398 people since Sunday. 85,195 total cases now.
Confirmed cases +6,398 people since Sunday. 85,195 total cases now.
Just to bump this again. This video is excellent for explaining the agency you have in not catching the coronavirus, whilst not downplaying the significance of the pandemic, nor downplaying the complications you could get if you develop COVID-19. It goes through everything from hand sanitising, wearing any sort of mask both out and about, as well as when self isolating in the home.
Follow the rules and you and your family should be fine.
This video is excellent for explaining the agency you have in not catching the coronavirus, whilst not downplaying the significance of the pandemic, nor downplaying the complications you could get if you develop COVID-19. It goes through everything from hand sanitising, wearing any sort of mask both out and about, as well as when self isolating in the home.
Follow the rules and you are massively pushing the odds in your favour that you and your family should be fine.
The UK could be the same. When the UK Department of Health report the total deaths, they state "Of those hospitalised in the UK, x have sadly died."
I guess countries might only report those who died in hospital because they would still need to test those who died outside for Corona which could take extra time?
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The poster he quoted said “people will forget about it in two weeks”, regarding the virus. 3 months ago. He’s also admitted he was very wrong.
This guy is just recycling a pathetic jab that 3 or 4 others have already done to him. Nothing worthwhile.
Comparing mortality with other known killers is a really flawed way to put this in perspective. Yes, more people will be killed on the roads. Yes, more people will die from heart disease. So what? Those people will still die. What this pandemic means is that a bunch of people - including young people - will die who would otherwise be fine.
I do get your point about agency. There are measures to be taken which can reduce the chance of being infected. I hope everyone will take them.What annoys me though are young people who think that being infected poses no significant risk. This is just wrong. Plus it feeds into the shitty, selfish attitude that saw so many young people still gathering in groups and cramming into pubs for as long as they possibly could. Feck those guys. If they're shit scared now that's great. Took them far too long but I'm glad they got there in the end.
What's the policy of the care homes there once a patient gets it?
You could well be right mind you were coffins turning up at care homes in the UK in the sort of numbers as they are being reported in France I reckon we would have heard about it by now. I do accept though, given we are a few days behind France that we sadly might catch up
Fair enough.
Cummings in self isolation after becoming symptomatic: https://www.theguardian.com/politic...navirus-live-rate-infection-lockdown-covid-19
Also Tom Hanks.
Also Tom Hanks.
So has Tom Hanks caught it again?
You can get weekly figures here: https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopula...nalfiguresondeathsregisteredinenglandandwales
Not sure if there's a resource for the daily figure.
Edit - You can get historical daily data for the years 2015 through 2018 here:
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopula...ilydeathsenglandandwales2015to2018occurrences
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What a weird post. People dying outside of hospitals aren't diagnozed immediately(if they are at all), it's the case everywhere, so logcailly you can't have accurate daily figures. That particular stat should be available this week. And by the way it has nothing to do with Macron or Johnson.