SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)

Boris is an utter twerp but the man was following the advice of Sir Patrick Vallance, and when that advice changed, his strategy for the country changed with it.

He’s got a baby on the way, I hope and I’m sure he’ll pull through.
Yeah, I'm not sure that you can blame Boris for anything during this crisis. They've been reactive, obviously, because this virus is inevitable not matter how much you prepare for it in advance. The government have put a lot of stuff in place that's working, as well as the financial help for millions of people. Ok, it's not perfect and our NHS is a mess but I'd put that blame on Cameron and Osbourne. Maybe Blair and Brown as well, but definitely not BoJo. His government has made all the right moves imo.
 
Most countries wouldn't create panic in the minds of everyone by giving minute to minute updates on PM's ill health.
No need for updates but don't insult peoples intelligence by claiming going into hospital was merely precaution.
 
They are obviously trying to play it down to not panic the country.
The fact he needed to be given oxygen to aid his breathing before being moved to ICU says it all. Wouldn't surprise me if he's on a ventillator.
 
Lack of transparency at a time like this is another major feck up by this government.
If he died we probably wouldn't know until a proper response has been organised. Well, unless the news leaks which it probably would.

Also can we make a rule about posting if the worst does happen? Fake news can spread so easily in this situation, it wouldn't surprise me if people just started spreading rumours on twitter
 
Don't like him or his party one bit, but I certainly don't want him to be going through this either. I hope he pulls through. Whatever you think of his leadership, it's a scary time to not have any leadership at all. Especially as the alternative is Raab.

Give it Corbzy til the end of the season.
 
He's not exactly an old man but it doesn't look like he lives a healthy life, imagine the pressure he must have been under for the past few weeks.
Anyone else with the virus would have been under total rest, with zero mental exertion.

Boris has most likely been clocking the hours trying to run the show, as well as worry about his pregnant partner too.

Im sure working over the past few days, while he's been sick, hasn't helped him. Would that extra stress and exertion have further weaken his immunity system while suffering from covid19?
 
Boris is an utter twerp but the man was following the advice of Sir Patrick Vallance, and when that advice changed, his strategy for the country changed with it.

He’s got a baby on the way, I hope and I’m sure he’ll pull through.

I can't believe you are still finding a way to reason that decision almost one month later. It doesn't matter if he listened to fecking Pope, the point was that he was going against what WHO recommended and against what entire world was doing. If he told him that he jumps off a bridge, does that excuse him of making a suicide?
 
While obviously I hope Boris pulls through, hopefully he now understands how disastrous and idiotic his initial strategy and delayed response to the pandemic were. He wasted precious time and initially was prepared to plow straight on for "herd immunity" despite it being obvious that tens of thousands of people would die. It's very rare for politicians to have to suffer the repercussions of their own actions in the same way normal people do. Hopefully Boris will be one of the lucky ones who make it through, but there will be thousands deaths that might have been avoided with a more competent response.

What a stupid fecking post. Just wish him the best and then take him to task when he recovers.
 
People still can’t quite get their heads around the following... until the UK health service is overwhelmed, no-one but Covid-19 is responsible for any deaths.
I'm sorry, that is an idiotic commentary. You know nothing about this, and the fact you learned nothing in the past few weeks, unlike most posters in here, is quite unnerving.
 
Probably because said politician and his party have been responsible for so many actual deaths?

Edit: I haven't clicked on the tweet and won't, nor do I wish death upon him. I'm just explaining why some may struggle to find sympathy since that's what you asked.

How would you have acted differently?

Because plenty of other countries have had an even worse time of it than us.
 
I can't believe you are still finding a way to reason that decision almost one month later. It doesn't matter if he listened to fecking Pope, the point was that he was going against what WHO recommended and against what entire world was doing. If he told him that he jumps off a bridge, does that excuse him of making a suicide?

Do you think the UK health service is gonna end up overwhelmed @Amar__?

And bullshit ”the entire World” was doing it. France got fecked, The US might end up monumentally fecked, Belgium, Holland. All hit at least at hard if not worse than Uk.

If you wanna blame Boris for listening to the advice of his experts, who can absolutely have a different view to the WHO (who aren’t at all blameless in this), fair enough, but that’s a big fecking call to make. Might as well disband all of your national teams of experts & rely solely on international bodies instead.
 
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You're not sorry, you're just a monumental insensitive bellend. You're welcome.
How did you work that one out? Do tell.
Did you just describe our PM, and more importantly a fellow human being, as "it?"

You need to take a look at yourself, not just for that, but for the sentiments in this. Not the time or the place.

That was a genuine typo tbh I'm posting off my phone, but I'm not overly about the sentiment tbh.

People can take some sort of morale high ground but the fact is, he was happy to let thousands die, based off advice or not.

I'm not going to suddenly forget who is and why we're in this situation because he's victim of his own stupidity and is in ICU.

That's all I'll say on the matter but I'll end up arguing all night.
 
15th September, CPH half.... please be back to normal by then.
It'll be a close shave. I had the 1st of August wrong. It's the end of August.
This whole movement to try and get things moving again seems so premature.
If you look at the graph on this page (should be self explanatory) it might be alright to test some measures. It's all conditioned by people adhering to social distancing etc.
 
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Is this wannabe hunk in charge of the UK right now?
 
Most countries wouldn't create panic in the minds of everyone by giving minute to minute updates on PM's ill health.

I think a lot of countries would have an absolute meltdown if their leader was in this position, in fairness.
 
I dont get why people must tell your their political affiliation on here or on twitter, before they say whether they want him to survive or not...
 
How did you work that one out? Do tell.


That was a genuine typo tbh I'm posting off my phone, but I'm not overly about the sentiment tbh.

People can take some sort of morale high ground but the fact is, he was happy to let thousands die, based off advice or not.

I'm not going to suddenly forget who is and why we're in this situation because he's victim of his own stupidity and is in ICU.

That's all I'll say on the matter but I'll end up arguing all night.

Because you spouted a load of crap.

You said:
I'm not gonna sit here send him my best wishes.

The man was happy to let thousands die to achieve herd immunity so it's quite ironic if he's one of them.

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The first sentence (yes I picked the second clause) makes you a wanker, the second shows your ignorance of the situation. Crack on.
 
I dont get why people must tell your their political affiliation on here or on twitter, before they say whether they want him to survive or not...

I think it's a defence mechanism, in that knowing how social media works, if you even hint at support for someone, like saying you hope Prince Charles recovers, you'll get a bunch of moronic anti royals starting ranting about why has he had "special" treatment etc... so for the use of a quick "I'm no royalist" it wards off the more hard of thinking.
 
Look, if you don't have anything nice to say about Boris as he lays in intensive care with his pregnant wife in bits then maybe don't say anything at all, yeah?
 
How would you have acted differently?

Because plenty of other countries have had an even worse time of it than us.

I wasn't referring to this pandemic.

To answer the question though I'm already on record as saying they should've brought in strict lockdown measures sooner than they did, so that, for starters. I wouldn't have even entertained the idea of herd immunity and sacrificing so many vulnerable older people. And on a personal level I wouldn't have been giving it the big un about how many hands I've continued to shake in defiance of common sense.
 
Because you spouted a load of crap.

You said:
I'm not gonna sit here send him my best wishes.

The man was happy to let thousands die to achieve herd immunity so it's quite ironic if he's one of them.

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The first sentence (yes I picked the second clause) makes you a wanker, the second shows your ignorance of the situation. Crack on.
Ironic.
 
How did you work that one out? Do tell.


That was a genuine typo tbh I'm posting off my phone, but I'm not overly about the sentiment tbh.

People can take some sort of morale high ground but the fact is, he was happy to let thousands die, based off advice or not.

I'm not going to suddenly forget who is and why we're in this situation because he's victim of his own stupidity and is in ICU.

That's all I'll say on the matter but I'll end up arguing all night.

If you don’t want to end up arguing all night, stop posting knob head posts.
 
I dont get why people must tell your their political affiliation on here or on twitter, before they say whether they want him to survive or not...

A period of our polarizing political ideologies creating an environment were all the worst elements of humanity must be ascribed to the side you disagree with. A loss of nuance and reasoned discussion.
 
Look, if you don't have anything nice to say about Boris as he lays in intensive care with his pregnant wife in bits then maybe don't say anything at all, yeah?

There's definitely a fair few who have outed themselves on here that could be done with being picked off, and removed.
 
I dont get why people must tell your their political affiliation on here or on twitter, before they say whether they want him to survive or not...

It is a bit weird to be honest. Disagree with your stance on taxes, but hope you'll pull through mate.