SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)

SalfordRed18 said:
I think it's bollocks. I think he's been in there since yesterday (hence that Russia report) and this is potentially getting the public ready for the worse.
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Sorry If I have missed something obvious, what is this russian report ?
Drawfull said:
I bought two month's worth of ale 6 weeks ago. That's gone well. And gone a long time ago. :lol:
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I know the feeling :lol: I have been picking up my weekend ale on a Monday after work and running out before the weekend starts and having to restock and so on.
 
Just got to thinking about all the shit that's gone down in the UK over the last 5 years now with Boris being hospitalised.. in an alternate world we could've had Ed Miliband elected in 2015 instead of Cameron and only now would we be coming to the end of his term, with probably about a tenth of the drama we've had
 
marktan said:
Just got to thinking about all the shit that's gone down in the UK over the last 5 years now with Boris being hospitalised.. in an alternate world we could've had Ed Miliband elected in 2015 instead of Cameron and only now would we be coming to the end of his term, with probably about a tenth of the drama we've had
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jymufc20 said:
He really has and he won't even get the credit for it, instead everyone will just blame him for his scientists feck ups.
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Mate people are throwing a shit-fit in here if someone so much dares to criticise the racist, not to mention he just recently romped the election with a massive majority. What's more likely to happen is that if he survives this and recovers well he'll be the second coming of Churchill and will be near enough untouchable as far as public persona goes.

Also, the guy who makes the final decisions getting the blame for said decisions is generally how stuff works, yeah.
 
Bebestation said:
It's okay to wish people die on a pandemic but when you accidentally wish an injury purely for a sports competition then you get points and warnings.

Not right and people are people.
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jymufc20 said:
Just quoting this incase anyone missed it, if you have nothing nice to say get on twitter with the rest of the numptys, the poor guy could be on his death bed.

And that goes for the posters wishing it was Trump instead, yeah the guys a bit of a maniac but wishing potential death on someone is pretty fecking sick in my opinion.
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Bobski said:
Any medical theories on the male/female split? Appears to be a consistent trend of male numbers being higher.
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I think possibly because pre-menopause women have hormones that are cardioprotective (especially oestrogen), which is why women's risk of heart attacks only really catches up to men post-menopausal and why men have heart attacks earlier. Might also be differences in gender expressions of ACE2 protein along with loads of other things like smoking with increased prevalence in men
 
Dwazza Gunnar Solskjær said:
You haven't seen a women's bathroom.
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Enlighten us. I know there was some nasty stuff happening in the girls' bathroom in high school (used tampons in the toilet paper holder and such stuff). But in general I refuse to believe that women are anywhere near as careless as men when it comes to washing hands etc.
 
Virgil said:
We did lose Spencer Percival to assassination in the early 19th century. He was MP for my home town.
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Prime Minister Lloyd George nearly died of Spanish Flu in 1918. He was 55 and was seriously ill for 10 days on a respirator. Same age as Boris, Hopefully Boris will have the same outcome and be ok.
 
Samid said:
Enlighten us. I know there was some nasty stuff happening in the girls' bathroom in high school (used tampons in the toilet paper holder and such stuff). But in general I refuse to believe that women are anywhere near as careless as men when it comes to washing hands etc.
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Only going on what I've been told in the past by women. There's a reason they invented the hover.
 
golden_blunder said:
I have a bad feeling that we will wake up to the news that he’s died
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I've had that feeling since last night. VDO below (shared a few days ago by @Raoul) easily explains how the virus evolves and wreaks his havoc, once it enters your body. Generally speaking, its not a major threat for vast vast majority of people. But when it becomes a problem, you are in serious trouble. The numbers also back that up.

My sister told me a few days ago the degradation post ICU can be very rapid and that she's overseen patients die within a few hours after entering ICU. There is very little doctors can do, aside from make you more comfortable, buy your immune system some extra time via a ventilator, and hope your body can repair itself.

The language in the Press Release is written by savvy spin doctors, trying their best to make it sound least alarming as possible. But Im in no doubt, BoJo has entered the genuine problem phase, and could be just hours away from his end.

 
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Trump:
We are working with London with respect to Boris Johnson. He’s been a really good friend. He doesn’t give up ... We’ve contacted all of Boris’ doctors ... When you get brought into intensive care, that gets very, very serious.
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Now is not the time to talk about the litany of intentional decisions Boris Johnson and those like him have made in recent times, which have landed the UK in this situation, with thousands of people less fortunate than him being in far worse situations. Don't you know he has <insert emotive topic which also can relate to those affected by his decisions>?
 
I wonder what Boris's doctors think of Trump contacting them and interrupting them while they're working :rolleyes:

I bet he's pushing HCL too, the cnut.
 
It's quite incredible and also scary that in the space of about 3 weeks Boris has gone from bragging about shaking hands with patients to being in intensive care. I hope he pulls through this. There's also a clap for him tomorrow night apparently.
 
dwd said:
It's quite incredible and also scary that in the space of about 3 weeks Boris has gone from bragging about shaking hands with patients to being in intensive care. I hope he pulls through this. There's also a clap for him tomorrow night apparently.
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Got no interest or joy in the geezer dying but a fecking clap? Get stuffed.
 
dwd said:
It's quite incredible and also scary that in the space of about 3 weeks Boris has gone from bragging about shaking hands with patients to being in intensive care. I hope he pulls through this. There's also a clap for him tomorrow night apparently.
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It's really crazy.
 
Anustart89 said:
Are you alluding that the people working around the clock to try to save lives in the ICUs around the world aren't doing their best for the patients that aren't the prime minister, and that they could squeeze out an extra 5% of good old fashioned healthcare if the patient's important enough?

If so, you might want to rethink that incredibly disrespectful armchair statement. Have you ever been to an ICU and seen what goes on?
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It wasn't aimed in the slightest against doctors. I meant it purely in a macro sense. Where I assume ICU personnel usually have to divide their attention and resources between several patients (or worse, if they got hit hard by the virus), I assume that BoJo as PM will either already have a dedicated doctor or someone in a suit will pull a doctor and tell them they have basically one patient now.
 
sammsky1 said:
Which are these 'two companies' who have some kind of magic dust?
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Guardian: Some context on Trump’s claim he is working with the FDA and companies are ready to assist London:

In the week beginning 30 March, the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) provided hydroxychloroquine with an “emergency use authorisation” to use on coronavirus patients in some circumstances. State officials in New York have said that about 4,000 seriously ill patients are now being treated with the drug.

But critics point out a side effect is heart stoppage, meaning the drug is potentially deadly. Some medical experts have called for the drug to be used to treat the virus but others have cautioned its need for more trials and controlled testing to avoid worsening the pandemic.
 
Anustart89 said:
I wonder what Boris's doctors think of Trump contacting them and interrupting them while they're working :rolleyes:

I bet he's pushing HCL too, the cnut.
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Don't be surprised if Bojo's partner opts for the experimental Remsdivir injection from Gilead (screw HCL). As he's a PM, he'll have privileged access to it, rightfully so. Good advert for Gilead too if it works. Hush, Hush if it doesn't.
 
do.ob said:
It wasn't aimed in the slightest against doctors. I meant it purely in a macro sense. Where I assume ICU personnel usually have to divide their attention and resources between several patients (or worse, if they got hit hard by the virus), I assume that BoJo as PM will either already have a dedicated doctor or someone in a suit will pull a doctor and tell them they have basically one patient now.
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I think that's fair although I get why he got a bit shirty with you.
 
SteveJ said:
But critics point out a side effect is heart stoppage, meaning the drug is potentially deadly.
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Thats ok. Most drugs in US are advertised on TV with disclaimers like "Known side effects include headache, nausea, diarrhea, breathing problems, heart stoppage, brain hemorrhage and death" or 'This medicines were effective in almost 95% of patients. Rest died"
 
Garethw said:
Or maybe he’s just a concerned friend?
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Even if he is, do you think all concerned friends should call into the ICU to check up on him? I mean, he's probably got lots of concerned friends. Do you think that nurses and doctors should spend their time on the phone or by the patient's side?
 
SteveJ said:
Guardian: Some context on Trump’s claim he is working with the FDA and companies are ready to assist London:

In the week beginning 30 March, the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) provided hydroxychloroquine with an “emergency use authorisation” to use on coronavirus patients in some circumstances. State officials in New York have said that about 4,000 seriously ill patients are now being treated with the drug.

But critics point out a side effect is heart stoppage, meaning the drug is potentially deadly. Some medical experts have called for the drug to be used to treat the virus but others have cautioned its need for more trials and controlled testing to avoid worsening the pandemic.
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Is this the same drug used for Malaria?
 
Just FYI. Bottom line is nobody know if hydroxychloroquine works. But as far as I know every inpatient in USA gets it. I have seen improvement in some patients but does nothing in ICU patients. Makes you think the improvement was just luck. But no one knows. In the meanwhile we use it cuz we want to feel like we are treating it. And the patients and families want to feel the same.
 


Wishes Boris, his family and the British people all the best, and a quick recovery to Boris in particular.

Didn't know he had a baby on the way. Hopefully he makes a full recovery and we get some good news in the coming days.
 
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