SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)

Why does even make any sense to him?! Surely if things get that bad, lad, you're gonna have way bigger things to worry about than whether Joan from Church Street is buying 5 boxes of tissues...
 
Not claiming to know anything but could they just have been filed under death from pneumonia or flu? Considering it was flu season?
I'm not buying that either. Too many people have come out of the woodwork to claim they were infected back in December. Flu or not, none of their relatives died or anybody they knew.
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I'm not buying that either. Too many people have come out of the woodwork to claim they were infected back in December. Flu or not, none of their relatives died or anybody they knew.
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You do realise that a shit-load of people catch flu every December. Why would last December be any different?
 
You do realise that a shit-load of people catch flu every December. Why would last December be any different?
The hospital and death rates. Was anything reported as unusual in terms of this back in December?
Surely if 50 people on my Facebook claimed to have had it, then surely that would equate to hundreds of thousands of infections by March? No?
 
The hospital and death rates. Was anything reported as unusual in terms of this back in December?
Surely if 50 people on my Facebook claimed to have had it, then surely that would equate to hundreds of thousands of infections by March? No?

I’m not sure 50 people on your Facebook claiming to have it would meet the diagnostic criteria for a SARS-COV2 cluster.
 
There's over 10 million people living in Lima and every supermarket has 3-4 cops in it or outside it. Works fine over here.


What exactly are they policing, mate? Genuine question.
What business do they have there? Is it restricting numbers of people inside at any one time?
 
The idea of opening pubs any time soon is mental, as if drunks are going to abide by social distancing.

Open restaurants and hope they abide by half service. You want a social drink have it with a nice meal.
 
The idea of opening pubs any time soon is mental, as if drunks are going to abide by social distancing.

Open restaurants and hope they abide by half service. You want a social drink have it with a nice meal.


Yeah definitely, pubs are going to be one of the last things to resume. Some will break the pact though, in quieter places where they mainly just attract regular locals.
 
When you’re trying to convince stupid people to stop being stupid, you might have to say stupid things.

No you don't. Stupid people will do stupid things regardless. All you do is make normal people think that their police force is being run by a muppet who is going a bit mad. Keeping the public on side is key to maintaining the lockdown.

This. Maybe they can use the license fee vans to detect if people are at home watching TV or not.

Don't go giving the Derbyshire Chief Constable ideas... please.
 
What exactly are they policing, mate? Genuine question.
What business do they have there? Is it restricting numbers of people inside at any one time?
I think support for shop workers too. I was leaving the supermarket yesterday when it was due to close and there was a few fellas trying to convince the young man to let them in to shop. But one of the cops stepped in and they backed away.
Maybe in a volatile country like this, looting is more prevalent in desperate times.
 
If the virus was circulating in December we would have been the first European country to be affected, not Italy.

Doesn't make sense that it has taken 4 months for us to break critical care capacity considering it only has a 2 week incubation period.
 
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People are stupid and that's why these tough measures come into being. I saw in the news that in Western Canada it started to expand from a snowmobile event. Now during this Easter weekend they ( private people) are planning to have an ATV event. This is why it's needed.
It expanded in a cock fight in the south Philippines.
 
4204 new cases in Italy (3836 yesterday)
610 deaths (542 yesterday)

Fewer cured than yesterday also

Hopefully this is just a exception to the gradual decline, there are fewer people in intensive care compared to yesterday.
 
I think support for shop workers too. I was leaving the supermarket yesterday when it was due to close and there was a few fellas trying to convince the young man to let them in to shop. But one of the cops stepped in and they backed away.
Maybe in a volatile country like this, looting is more prevalent in desperate times.

For sure, man. If items are being restricted also, how is a small female cashier supposed to deny a bunch of blokes from panic-buying and snatching up everything in sight. You definitely need some kind of backup in place.

How is Peru doing in general?
 
I got a PM from someone called @fellwin re an interesting bit of research in Denmark. They tested everyone who donated blood and found 1.5% of them were producing antibodies. So they can extrapolate from that a similar % of the overall population is probably positive. Which is many more times higher than the official number of cases. Obviously, a long way short of herd immunity though, unfortunately.

@Pogue Mahone

Could be worth google translating this: https://www.svt.se/nyheter/inrikes/ny-studie-2-5-av-stockholmarna-bar-pa-viruset

But the quick run down. 773 random people tested in Stockholm between 27th March - 3rd April, 2.5% tested positive. This isn't an antibody test of course, so this was people bearing the virus there and then. With the time between now and then that'd give between 5-10% actually bearing the virus.

The health ministry will put this into their model and hopefully tomorrow give us an idea as to how many are likely to have had the virus in the Stockholm region. Watch this space!

Next week they will start a nation wide test.
 
I wish journos would shut the feck up about this ‘exit strategy’. All it does is cause impatience amongst the idiots who want out of lockdown.
 
I wish journos would shut the feck up about this ‘exit strategy’. All it does is cause impatience amongst the idiots who want out of lockdown.
Well they just love a good exit in the UK so I guess it sells papers
 


Speaking of stupid people. FFS.

(No need for “shouldn’t they have been on duty?” jokes. The twitter thread is already full of them)


They need to face punishments for things like that. Police here are allowed to issue fines that can enter the thousands. People actually pay for their stupidity.
 
4204 new cases in Italy (3836 yesterday)
610 deaths (542 yesterday)

Fewer cured than yesterday also

Hopefully this is just a exception to the gradual decline, there are fewer people in intensive care compared to yesterday.

Numbers always spike around Thursday and Friday as cases catch up from the previous weekend. It's been that way since the beginning, and by Sunday the numbers start dropping again.

The Health Minister said today for the first time the R0 has dropped below 1.
 
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How is Peru doing in general?
We're currently coming to the end of a 4 week quarantine and curfew which has now been extended to 6 weeks.

The government here needed to act much earlier as the healthcare system is non existent.

I suppose that's one advantage to living in the future, they can see what is coming from the other side of world by least 6 hours.
 
Seen reports of caravans heading for Cornwall today in their dozens. Source - Plymouth Herald.

I don't see why it's the government's fault if people are idiots. People in the UK have been told the right way to behave for weeks now.
 
I wish journos would shut the feck up about this ‘exit strategy’. All it does is cause impatience amongst the idiots who want out of lockdown.
They should have an exit strategy even if they don't yet know when to start implementing it. I don't think Raab understands the question
 
Maybe im deluded, but i thought that tonight's briefing was fairly positive. Particularly regarding rates of people entering critical care. Ive been fairly impressed throughout by the way each person takes time to answer the questions as fully as possible.
 
Seen reports of caravans heading for Cornwall today in their dozens. Source - Plymouth Herald.

Seems to be a theme - lots of reports from Ireland of affluent Dubliners fleeing to their holiday homes in Kerry and West Cork.
 
I don't see why it's the government's fault if people are idiots. People in the UK have been told the right way to behave for weeks now.

But this behaviour was totally predictable, hence the responsibility of government to implement suitable counter measures.
 
They should have an exit strategy even if they don't yet know when to start implementing it. I don't think Raab understands the question
I can understand why they are not saying what will happen yet. Still too many variables plus, the minute people get any hint of restrictions being lifted some numpties will take the piss and potentially put us back