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SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
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Tbh I thought about doing that but feel it would be necessary in the end. Figured people would be able to tell we live here but sadly not.
It'll be interesting to see whether the government communicate that a second lockdown is likely or not.
I'd hope they try and coerce people into maintaining lesser social distancing by explaining it'll make a second or third full lockdown less likely. Many will think when the lockdown is finished that it's 'over'
I'd hope they try and coerce people into maintaining lesser social distancing by explaining it'll make a second or third full lockdown less likely. Many will think when the lockdown is finished that it's 'over'
Lots of crazy people (mainly old people with nothing better to do) thinking they’re police officers without a clue of circumstances of people out giving orders. It’s kinda pathetic in all honesty.
The country is doing well I think with social distancing & just getting on with it so we can move in from this, don’t need jobsworths who think they know everything trying to give out orders.
The country is doing well I think with social distancing & just getting on with it so we can move in from this, don’t need jobsworths who think they know everything trying to give out orders.
But aren't we at "peak" now? If so why increase capacity?
I'm actually shit at it, I had to go shopping today, didn't even realise there was a path to follow in the supermarket. Luckily it wasn't too busy anyway. I just did it like a normal shop, just didn't barge past people and stuff.
Didn't mean to be shit at it, but alas, I am.
I'm best leaving the Mrs to the shopping.
This is the funniest thing about shopping lately. I see a lot of men taking pictures of items and waiting for their wives to confirm this is what they should be getting. It's quite funny seeing people have to navigate things they are wholly unfamiliar with.
My wife's best friend is heavily pregnant and was due for a cesarean two weeks ago as they felt a natural birth would be difficult for her for a few reasons. That was cancelled due to not enough staff and has been told even though there's serious dangers for her to give birth naturally, its the safer option. She's also had bad contractions for the last two days but they don't see her as a high enough priority yet. I would hate to be in that situation, not sure how I would cope.
Here in Canada - the supermarket have even marked out spacing for queues outside store and also at the checkout tills. A lot of them have also installed screens for the cashiers too.Ummm, there's a path?
Peak of this wave, as I understand it, with potential for a more deadly second and third wave once restrictions begin to be lifted.
But I'm a bit baffled about the language surrounding it too, tbh.
Ummm, there's a path?
In Tesco there was
arrows on the floor, you're supposed to go up and down every aisle apparently, the Mrs said it's the same in Asda aswell. Mental.Yeah that's the same here, have to queue round the carparks on the lines they've laid out at 2m apart. Luckily today there was no queue and I waltzed straight in, atleast I didn't think there was a queue
The only way I can see a potential for a more deadly second and third wave is if the government let everyone loose. But maybe that's what they're planning. Increase capacity and then get it over and done with?
That's pretty sad
Yep, that was me "yeah I'm at that potatoes, but there's different colours, different sizes, they're named different, why are they different prices?" I thought a potato was a potato. How wrong I was.
I guess it depends where it is. I had to queue up outside for a long time at Walmart in an NB town. Some groceries just make a show. Walmart was serious and not let anyone go inside as they want because they are controlling the number of people inside.
It is scary and will make attempts at developing a vaccine harder, but hopefully there’s enough researchers working on it to find a work around one way or another. In the meantime if one of the treatments show efficacy that’ll really help.
We’re not at the point in which we are able to use animal models yet (perhaps a couple of months away) but we will most likely be performing intranasal and sublingual administration to assess which is better. We’re based at Royal Holloway University in Surrey.
That’s great. You do your shopping at the same time and day. I found the biggest challenge in shopping is when it is busy. Just more stressful with making sure distance is kept with others even when they limit numbers allowed in at any given time.
God, you're honest!
Thought that entire university's raison d'être was to try and convince people Egham is in London...
That's pretty sad
We all take on different roles in a partnership. When I was married I hated going to the grocery store, now I have no choice.
One reason for extra capacity is in case you need it, in particular in case you need extra ICU beds. The other reason for having extra capacity is because the NHS isn't currently "business as usual".
A lot of their normal work is currently postponed or being turned into phone consultations and advice only hands off sessions. Cancer treatments are being delayed (understandably so as those patients will often be in a high risk covid group). Cancer referrals for diagnostic tests were operating way below normal levels.
Elective surgery like cataracts and joint replacements are on hold. Some A&E and other departments are already reporting that patients with serious (non-covid) symptoms are coming to them late, and sometimes too late.
Excess capacity, more PPE and changes in organisation/locations to allow for better social distancing are all part of the mix. Not just for getting through this covid peak, for getting through the normal ongoing health care needs that still keep requiring attention alongside the pandemic.
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So if everything was re opened in three weeks say, you’d go completely back to normal?
Don't. We'll just have another like-minded and affluent argument over "I'll follow exactly what the government say" despite it being proven that they were wrong all that time.
Sorry if asked before, but is there a reason the UK is the only place in this list that doesn't have a figure for recoveries?
Worldometers
Worldometers
France
106206 cases +2633
31779 hospitalized
6457 in intensive care
10643 dead + 514
Care homes
41657 cases +2287
6524 dead +924
106206 cases +2633
31779 hospitalized
6457 in intensive care
10643 dead + 514
Care homes
41657 cases +2287
6524 dead +924
He will have nowhere to go other than work, all of the social places will still be on lockdown. fecking nuts if everything goes back to normal in three weeks time.
Personally I would and I'd have every right to do so unless the government stopped me.
It's a moot point anyway as everything isn't going to be opening in three weeks anyway.
Yes,
When we get better from Covid-19 we have at least a couple of dozen other things to get better from before you could accurately describe us as recovered.
I think it was more the principle of getting back to “normal” as soon as allowed. There’s obviously a lot of things people can do differently to before, despite things being re opened. Like when the shops open again, is everyone just going to walk around aimlessly in city centres? Or will people only use them when needed for a while.
There’s a massive difference between being able to go and see your family again, or spending all evening in a pub, coming into contact with 50 different people.
There’s a massive difference between being able to go and see your family again, or spending all evening in a pub, coming into contact with 50 different people.
Cool. Interesting stuff to be working on. Best of luck! We’re all rooting for you.
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And it's exactly why this country could easily he brainwashed into martial law. If they're exaggerating the current orders imagine what they'll be like if the government go all in on movement restrictions?
It won't take much to be able to convince a significant number of people to accept and help implement it, good wording and clever spins on stats is all it will take.
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Yep. It will be quite easy too - just drench the media with 'war based language'. Keep reiterating that "we're fighting a war, we're on the front line, your job is to help defend this country" type jargon.
Scared people are easy to control. Tell them they're doing a crucial role and a lot of them would try PHYSICALLY imposing the rules, I am certain of that.
And it's exactly why this country could easily he brainwashed into martial law. If they're exaggerating the current orders imagine what they'll be like if the government go all in on movement restrictions?
It won't take much to be able to convince a significant number of people to accept and help implement it, good wording and clever spins on stats is all it will take.
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Yep. It will be quite easy too - just drench the media with 'war based language'. Keep reiterating that "we're fighting a war, we're on the front line, your job is to help defend this country" type jargon.
Scared people are easy to control. Tell them they're doing a crucial role and a lot of them would try PHYSICALLY imposing the rules, I am certain of that.
Sorry, what? Martial law? Bit of a fecking leap from people getting snippy on twitter about other people sun-bathing to the army brutally suppressing any dissent. I really don’t get the civil liberties complaints here. Seems to me that the way this is being policed is not even close to being inappropriately heavy-handed. People are generally doing the right thing and the police are generally being tolerant and patient. There’s a real sense of everyone working together for the common good. Obviously you’re getting some arseholes testing limits but there will always be arseholes. Such is life. Still absolutely ludicrous to use words like brainwashing and martial law in this context.
Eventually people will start playing percentages again at some point, whether that's either subconsciously or by choice.
Most people won't default back to normal straight away (they won't be able too anyway as measures will be reduced gradually) but eventually the daily briefings will stop, Covid19s news coverage will slowly erode and human nature will cause some natural order to restore, many will do it without realising. Some may insist that they will play safe long term but it would be like a new year resolution, at first you stick it to it religiously/stubbornly but slowly your resolve softens.
Even now with the virus near its peak less than 200 people out of a million are dying and ultimately there's more chance of dying on the road (for under 30s you can probably add plane to that too), there's only so long people will restrict themselves with such low odds.
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Speaking of arseholes being arseholes....
You have people moaning about taking excercise or buying stuff they deem to be non essential. Or reporting their neighbors for talking at a distance. Some people are trying too hard to be good little boys/girls they are going over the top, like the schoolkid who does extra homework that he just didn't need to do.
I think/hope the government would never attempt this but if they did, it really really wouldn't be that hard to get a significant number of people onboard judging by what I've seen/been told so far.
Isn't this a classic case of only hearing about these scenarios and therefore making it seem more like a problem than it is? People don't report on twitter about how good they've been at social distancing nearly as much as them complaining. I suspect there is an element of bias/lopsidedness in what is being seen/told.
I know that for a lot of people its impossible to imagine a situation right now where we aren't getting daily briefings from the government and people are more or less getting along with life with some restrictions. But that situation will be here.
We are not getting rid of this virus completely, it seems like it's here to stay but once the number of deaths and hospitalisations decrease to what's considered to be a less scary and 'acceptable' level, life will continue.
There will possibly never be a day when the UK can say "there were zero covid19 deaths today", but once it becomes a regular occurrence for that number to be around 50-100, life will begin to resume and get back to some normality.
Can we not disown that wagon and set her adrift in the North Atlantic?
She must have a lot of time on her hands now she can't travel the country taking photos of schoolchildren and posting them on the internet, I mean documenting the evils of multi-culturalism.
I also thought that Waters bollox had fecked off somewhere never to return after we legalised abortion.