How long do people think this will last?
Idealistically i think till next April. Realistically i am thinking late 2021.
Idealistically i think till next April. Realistically i am thinking late 2021.
SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
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Hope you and your wife are fine.
I don't think you should thread ban someone just because you don't agree with their opinion
Half the thread would be banned if he did that. Thats not what he did
What did he do?
That is very much appreciated my friend. Thank you.
My wife has had a cough for over 4 weeks and has lost her sense of taste and smell. Her breathing is often tight. So on that basis, we request the kits.
I have to say that, primarily because Amazon delivered the kits exactly when they were scheduled, and the testing kits are easy to perform, with a video instructions, the process is pretty simple.
Hopefully we will be negative.
Thank you.
I listened to Dr Liam Fox yesterday saying that the UK figures, as a rate per population, put the UK in the middle of the European deaths rate.
However, using the available numbers and dividing by the country's populations, we are still very close to the top.
Moreover, he actually said that we were about the same deaths rate as Germany. Which is complete rubbish.
And he must know that he is telling lies, but said it as if it was a fact.
We are not even close to Germany as a rate.
So. Trust me I am a Doctor???
I thought a thread ban was lenient personally. He didn't make sense, which might not have mattered too much if he didn't relentlessly spam his not making sense.
Well my pulse ox meter arrived, and it helped allay some fears. Sats all at a good level and have established a good set of baseline readings now.
The irish government strategy plan is detailed, well thought out and depressing all at the same time. Looks like my planned holiday is a no go and no chance of delaying it until later in the summer.
Given their numbers have been lower than UK I can see that the government willhold back on giving such detail. It's a hammer blow to hospitality, tourism and travel sector.
They will be forced to either nationalise or prop up several huge businesses that will be going to the wall if the UK copies the Irish government's homework. (Boris has form for doing this with Europe).
The irish government strategy plan is detailed, well thought out and depressing all at the same time. Looks like my planned holiday is a no go and no chance of delaying it until later in the summer.
Given their numbers have been lower than UK I can see that the government willhold back on giving such detail. It's a hammer blow to hospitality, tourism and travel sector.
They will be forced to either nationalise or prop up several huge businesses that will be going to the wall if the UK copies the Irish government's homework. (Boris has form for doing this with Europe).
I would not dream of getting on an aeroplane for about another year and a half.
Wouldn't be the government killing the pubs would it ? They aren't in control of covid-19
They would lose more money doing this and would be better off staying closed as many pub landlords have come out and said already.
You need to wake up to the reality that things are going to change big time over all of this, many pubs and restaurants won't survive.
I don't know why the government even bothers to lie - they've got the media in their corner (any other Party's government would've been pressurised into falling long before now) and we're years away from an election; so why bother? Even prominent columnists (Crace, Hyde etc) have wilfully fallen into the American trap: instead of anger, they express wry sarcasm in lieu of humour, which isn't good enough or apt - news has been reduced to Fallon-esque "Let's laugh at what our wacky President's been up to today" weakness when there should be pressure and fury.
I think a lot of businesses are in trouble. Consumer confidence is so low and then people are avoiding going into places because of the fear of contracting the virus.
Gyms, restuarants, pubs, hair salons etc. They could all be in trouble.
This is much worse than the recession of 2008/2009.
Edit: dentists in Ireland are in severe trouble. They might pull through though because dental problems would push people to overcome their fear of catching the virus.
The british doctors aren't happy with chinese ventilators:
British doctors warn some Chinese ventilators could kill if used in hospitals
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/...ilators-could-kill-if-used-hospitals-n1194046
Only 20 out of 65.000 Lupus patients got the Cornavirus. Since hydroxychloroquine is a common treatment among them it seems to be confirming that it at least has some benefits.
In Italy, only 20 out of 65,000 chronic Lupus patients got COVID-19.
https://internetprotocol.co/hype-news/2020/04/30/covid19-explanation-hcq-works/
Original Source in italian, if someone fluent in italian wants to double-check: https://www.iltempo.it/salute/2020/...-terapia-idrossiclorochina-sars-cov2-1321227/
Sweden still with increasing cases - especially compared to Norway and Finland. They are also testing less by quite the margin. We will see how it is going to develop, but as of now it seems like the gamble didn't pay off in absolute numbers - but depending on the growth of the virus it may pay off economically.
British doctors warn some Chinese ventilators could kill if used in hospitals
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/...ilators-could-kill-if-used-hospitals-n1194046
Only 20 out of 65.000 Lupus patients got the Cornavirus. Since hydroxychloroquine is a common treatment among them it seems to be confirming that it at least has some benefits.
In Italy, only 20 out of 65,000 chronic Lupus patients got COVID-19.
https://internetprotocol.co/hype-news/2020/04/30/covid19-explanation-hcq-works/
Original Source in italian, if someone fluent in italian wants to double-check: https://www.iltempo.it/salute/2020/...-terapia-idrossiclorochina-sars-cov2-1321227/
Sweden still with increasing cases - especially compared to Norway and Finland. They are also testing less by quite the margin. We will see how it is going to develop, but as of now it seems like the gamble didn't pay off in absolute numbers - but depending on the growth of the virus it may pay off economically.
Get with the times, you are not allowed to express anything that goes against the official spread of information. You might have to fight for your life in Gulag otherwise.
By the way, masks are no longer mandatory in my country and they lifted the heavy ban on visiting parks or similar public places. Hopefully we get back to some sort of normality soon, or we might have to relive similar events as the darkest times of the communist era.
This is a really good deep dive into vaccine/antiviral development for sarscov2 over the next few years.
Was forwarded it by actuary friend but the overview is as good as any I’ve seen from medics. One interesting - and obvious - point he brought up that hadn’t even occurred to me is that vaccine trials require the virus to be in circulation to reach their endpoints.
The lower r0 is the longer it takes to develop a vaccine. How’s that for a catch 22!
Without a doubt, I really do feel sorry for them all.
I imagine dentists will survive though like you say.
My mum is 71 and has had a cough for well over a month so she registered online for a test and is going to a nearby centre at 6pm this evening.
It’s the only symptom she’s had so no idea what to expect but I guess at least she’ll know.
My old man hasn’t had any symptoms at all so he didn’t register, apparently they’re only asking for people with symptoms at the moment.
It’s the only symptom she’s had so no idea what to expect but I guess at least she’ll know.
My old man hasn’t had any symptoms at all so he didn’t register, apparently they’re only asking for people with symptoms at the moment.
Hope it's nothing more than a cough mate.
I fear for sparkys sanity if pubs don’t reopen soon. He mentions pubs in almost every 2nd post so he must be bored shitless.
Like you, I can’t see how pubs come out of this. They won’t get licensed if they can’t come up with a physical distancing plan. That’s before you think of the additional costs of plastic glasses, increased cleaning costs and perhaps having to totally redo toilets.
Then throw in money losses from having to limit patrons.
I think a lot of pubs are fcuked
Wish your mum luck @Rado_N
Short, sweet and to the point
Best wishes to you and yours, mate.
I'm coming off it and sending myself straight to the pit, comrade!Oh come off it
I'm glad I am not the only one who has noticed this, I thought I was going mad for a while.
Cheers mate.
I’m reasonably relaxed about it as I think if there was anything sinister it would have escalated by now, and even if the test comes back positive it’ll be a minor case.
Don’t get me wrong I’m fully aware it needs to be taken seriously, but they’re already isolating etc and literally haven’t left the house since early March.
It’s been weird not being able to see them properly for so long, just doing shopping runs for them and leaving stuff on the doorstep waving through the window
Even if things eventually go back to normal, pubs won't have the custom they once did, people will realise they didn't need the pubs and probably frequent less.
I personally love the pub though, the locals, the bar staff, I know a lot of people from the local. Alot of people who live alone or retired just go in for something to do and to socialise. Hope my local pulls through. Should do hopefully though.
Food and health is generally safe. Although restaurants will have to offer takeaways instead.
I know what you’re saying but I think the social aspect of the pub might be appreciated a whole lot more after this.
Don't agree with your first paragraph at all. Funnily enough for the reason you state in your second.
For the people that live alone, might not have friends, the pub is one of the only places in which they can have a conversation.
Yeah that's going to be a huge challenge. Really wished they had started human trials earlier!
I think it'll come down to sample size, incredibly high efficacy rate (in terms of v low infection rates), good safety profile (hopefully just the usual pyrexia, headache post-shot) and maybe if we can see this thing in action during the ease of lockdown measures we will see
Why I am somewhat more hopeful now is the building consensus on possible immunity with the re-infections now attributed to faulty tests that there is light at the end of the tunnel.
I think it'll be a huge challenge to walk the tightrope with regards to declaring a vaccine as effectively the cure for this due to the financial incentives of getting their first. But also messing this up would have enormous risks of losing public confidence in the scientific community with regards to tackling this disease.
Yeah it is a really strange one. Both my remaining grandparents are stuck inside, but in all fairness they should be as they are both in poor health.
I myself am on the vulnerable list so work have given me the 12 weeks off, luckily my wife works for the same company and they've given her the same time period off so that she isn't putting me at more risk. If the lock down for the vulnerable gets extended beyond these 12 weeks though I'm not sure if work will allow her to have another 12 weeks off, and the thought of not going outside at all for 6 months is really tough to take. It's been 6 weeks now and I've gone from working, training, playing rugby and nights with friends to not leaving the house once since March.
I could actually deal with it if they extended the lock down, but made it so it was the same as what most peoples lock down is now, so I can go for a walk or a run rather than having to stroll around my garden.
As I’m in lockdown it’s been a bit like one of those old Hitchcock movies, just being able to look out the window.
It’s like there is no restrictions, loads of people walking around, some pushing peaks, loads of kids, no physical distancing in sight. Not a mask to be seen
It’s like there is no restrictions, loads of people walking around, some pushing peaks, loads of kids, no physical distancing in sight. Not a mask to be seen
Have you taken to spying on your neighbours yet?
Good luck having proper conversation when you’re 2 metres apart.
“What did you say Roger?”
“WHAT??”
“WAIT A MINUTE ILL TURN THIS HEARING AID UP”
Yes but feck all happening
They reduced it to 1 metre in Norway now, so we're pretty much all set.
Apropos spying on your neighbours, I wonder how WeasteDevil is getting along in all this.