SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)

So I'm curious.
As I'm supposed to go back to work in customer service on the 15th, I have my dad living with me at the moment who is classed as high risk. Should I actually be going back to work, what are the guidelines / rules on this?

Have you spoken to your employer? What are the safety measures they're taking in the office? Can you do your work from home? If you've not spoken to them, this should be your first port of call.
 
Some interesting conclusions on where we imported all our cases from in the UK. Mainly France and Spain apparently.

 
Some interesting conclusions on where we imported all our cases from in the UK. Mainly France and Spain apparently.



Funny how the imports from Spain peak on March 11, the same day as the Liverpool game.
 
Funny how the imports from Spain peak on March 11, the same day as the Liverpool game.
Could be, that would be an interesting subset to follow.

That said, as soon as half-term is over, in early March is when a lot of (no kids!) Brits head to Spain, especially those with holiday homes or similar links and ones traveling in groups.

I was preparing to travel (and so were my next door neighbours) to Spain when Italy's cases started to rise - I cancelled, so did my neighbours. Some of my family did go though and one of them died three weeks after his return.
 
Could be, that would be an interesting subset to follow.

That said, as soon as half-term is over, in early March is when a lot of (no kids!) Brits head to Spain, especially those with holiday homes or similar links and ones traveling in groups.

I was preparing to travel (and so were my next door neighbours) to Spain when Italy's cases started to rise - I cancelled, so did my neighbours. Some of my family did go though and one of them died three weeks after his return.

Sorry to hear that about your family member, and i think a lot will have similar stories. Travelling i expect will be the last thing to resume - Italy categorises airports at the highest risk level, alongside working in a hospital. I was flying on a weekly basis before this but i haven't stepped on a plane since February, and don't plan to any time soon. They can say what they want about air circulation and HEPA filters, flights were a major source of transmission during SARS and are proving to be so again now.
 
Some interesting conclusions on where we imported all our cases from in the UK. Mainly France and Spain apparently.



I had a lot of friends who were planning to go or were out skiing in France around those dates.

I don't think we can underestimate how much repatriation has had an impact to the infection rate. The lack of quarantine restrictions at that time is looking to be a tragic lack of leadership in the UK government.
 
Sorry to hear that about your family member, and i think a lot will have similar stories. Travelling i expect will be the last thing to resume - Italy categorises airports at the highest risk level, alongside working in a hospital. I was flying on a weekly basis before this but i haven't stepped on a plane since February, and don't plan to any time soon. They can say what they want about air circulation and HEPA filters, flights were a major source of transmission during SARS and are proving to be so again now.

Not that the distinction matters but i imagine the airports themselves are the major spreader rather than being in the plane itself?

The amount of people going through an airport often crammed together it's perfect conditions for something to spread.
 
Not that the distinction matters but i imagine the airports themselves are the major spreader rather than being in the plane itself?

The amount of people going through an airport often crammed together it's perfect conditions for something to spread.

It is not certain yet, however during SARS it was proven one person infected 20% of all passengers on his flight, and there were a disproportionate number of cabin crew catching the virus in the early days of the Covid outbreak.
 
Not that the distinction matters but i imagine the airports themselves are the major spreader rather than being in the plane itself?

The amount of people going through an airport often crammed together it's perfect conditions for something to spread.

I'd guess that is the plane travel itself rather than the airport. Recirculated air, general lack of cleanliness and hygiene with seating, trays etc
 
I see that Tegnell is essentially on repeat and that numbers in Sweden are still shit.
 
Not that the distinction matters but i imagine the airports themselves are the major spreader rather than being in the plane itself?

The amount of people going through an airport often crammed together it's perfect conditions for something to spread.

My guess would be that sitting in an airplane with a bunch of strangers for a couple of hours wouldn’t be much more risky than doing the same in a bus or train. If all of those strangers were from your local area.

The risk comes because that bunch of strangers can come from all over the world and have interacted with a load of other people, from all over the world, to get on that plane. So you’re a couple of steps removed from an enormous geographical spread.

I would, personally, be even more nervous in a massive sport event. Especially when a whole bunch of the people attending travelled there on a plane!
 
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14 states + PR hit their highest 7 day average for cases. Some of this will be increased testing, but at a glance hospitalizations are also up. They might try to spin this as the result of protests, but it is early for those to have that much of an effect on a 7-day average. Also, it doesn’t correlate to where the largest protests were: the trend seems to be Sunbelt states that were more likely to open up early.

 
14 states + PR hit their highest 7 day average for cases. Some of this will be increased testing, but at a glance hospitalizations are also up. They might try to spin this as the result of protests, but it is early for those to have that much of an effect on a 7-day average. Also, it doesn’t correlate to where the largest protests were: the trend seems to be Sunbelt states that were more likely to open up early.



Too early for any infections picked up during protests to feature in those stats, I’d say.
 
People who live alone can choose a household where they can act like they live with them.
 
It is not certain yet, however during SARS it was proven one person infected 20% of all passengers on his flight, and there were a disproportionate number of cabin crew catching the virus in the early days of the Covid outbreak.
Probably all the plane jumping up and cramming in like cattle upon landing when there’s a mad scramble for bags.
never understood that. I always wait and usually see most of those people in the airport so they haven’t got anywhere any quicker
 


Slight add on to Ferguson's earlier comments.

Also @Dancfc, he said 200 million people could die from bird flu if it mutated into a form as deadly as the Spanish flu. "If" being the operative word in that sentence.
 
It’s much harder to predict the future than comment on what’s already happened.

I would have thought ......than being wise after the event. Always amazing how many experts fall into that category. Just a thought.
 
I would have thought ......than being wise after the event. Always amazing how many experts fall into that category. Just a thought.

Yes. That’s true. But isn’t he being wise after the event about the mistakes that he contributed to? Which is basically how we learn.