But hang on. When have I ever said in any of my posts that I hold no blame for the PM and the Tories? Regardless of new strain, of course the level of incompetence is and should be clear for all.
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But hang on. When have I ever said in any of my posts that I hold no blame for the PM and the Tories? Regardless of new strain, of course the level of incompetence is and should be clear for all.
Ah man this Christmas is cancelled for me 
But at times like these, I just look back at fortune that my family are safe and hope it continues. Same towards everyone here and society in general.
It sucks Christmas and the festive period will be bleak but if you're healthy then you're more fortunate than many. Look at it that way.
But at times like these, I just look back at fortune that my family are safe and hope it continues. Same towards everyone here and society in general.
It sucks Christmas and the festive period will be bleak but if you're healthy then you're more fortunate than many. Look at it that way.
I completely agree, the new strain has given them a get out for their lack of balls in putting us into a Christmas lockdown in the first place.
That’s one thing, but I’ve been astonished at anyone actually thinking we can all relax over Christmas anyway, regardless of what the government have been saying. Morons. Anyone planning for anything other than a very small Christmas were dumb in the first place.
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The data would suggest that there is some uncharacteristic rapid growth of the virus. More than what we've seen of restrictions being relaxed.
https://assets.publishing.service.g..._Conference_Slides_-_Saturday_19_December.pdf - slides 3 & 4 show some very steep growths, more than what you would see from a change in lockdown to tiering.
Saying on the news now. Detected in November and the growth indicates it was around in August.
Ah man this Christmas is cancelled for me
But at times like these, I just look back at fortune that my family are safe and hope it continues. Same towards everyone here and society in general.
It sucks Christmas and the festive period will be bleak but if you're healthy then you're more fortunate than many. Look at it that way.
Exactly. Everyone so upset about their ‘ruined Christmas’ simply because they can’t have big family gatherings should spare a thought for those who couldn’t anyway through losing loved ones.
It'll be even more disappointing when they win the next election at a canter too.
[Peter Kay voice] Here, who remembers Eat Out To Help Out? What were that about?
This year has been the perfect storm of government incompetence and selfishness from a good part of the population resulting in the perfect shit storm
stick this vaccine in my arm ASAP
stick this vaccine in my arm ASAP
Precisely.
But this is a huge part of the problem here in the UK. I don't know if 11101 is correct, but given the record over the last year, many of us are wondering exactly the same thing. All confidence has been lost by the constant lies and propaganda spewing from the cabinet.
What will he/you do now given Boris latest announcement?
It's a new strain. It goes to a different school, you won't know it.
Its the hope that kills you. Inevitable rush to get turkey etc today / Tomorrow.
Surely they can't, I fecking hope not anyway. I'm desperate for them to get booted and to hopefully never return.
People can't use the paying higher taxes as a reason not to vote elsewhere because we will certainly be paying higher taxes regardless to pay back the debt despite the party in power.
Got my results yesterday, tested positive. Flu like symptoms started on Wednesday, incl. a ridiculous cough. Went to the mobile testing center on Thursday, got the message on Friday. Now in quarantine for the next ten days.
So hang on, what's the difference between having a bubble on Christmas Day but not Boxing Day? Do things magically change over night?
Feel so sorry for my daughter - she was really looking forward to seeing her cousins for a few days - she misses them so much.
That seems pretty consistent and believable to me. It is highly unlikely that the prevalence goes from 28% to 62% (or whatever the numbers were in the slide) in a month by chance only.
Hope you feel better soon.
My dad was due to go in for a hernia operation two weeks ago, isolated for a few days and took a covid test all ok and hospital cancelled his appointment. A week later same process but this time tested positive, thankfully no symptoms at the moment. My mum got a test as soon as they found out but hers has come back negative much to our surprise.
I suppose reduce the risk etc but I agree with you - we’re seeing 1 other family on Christmas Day. If they have COVID or we have it - then we will pass it on - 1 more day makes no real difference?
I laughed
Nobody is saying there is no mutation. There undoubtedly is.
The government got the Christmas rules totally wrong and just 3 days ago were digging their heels in. Now they have realised the mistake and need an excuse to backtrack and pass blame when it all goes wrong. This new variant is exactly that.
It will be talked up to be incredibly dangerous over the next few days, despite the scientists themselves saying they dont know how dangerous it is yet.
I assume, based on not much, it’ll put people off making long journeys for single day and less people from different regions will be taking it to areas with lower case numbers
He will no doubt carry on regardless , whether his guests will I don`t know as I don`t know them . I will also carry on as planned spending Christmas with my son as my wife is working christmas eve , christmas day , boxing day and the day after , will pop and see my mother and father in law as I have done every day since March , they have been isolating since then as he is 80 with alzheimers . Even though in Anglesey we are at around 35 per 100 000 and only 70 000 people live in Anglesey.
Something has changed in the last few days and spooked the government though. No way does Boris get up in the House of Commons last week to accuse Starmer of ‘wanting to cancel Christmas’ unless he was pretty damn sure he wouldn’t be forced to cancel Christmas.
I agree with all that. And of course agree the government are dishonestly going to use the new strain as a political cover up of their incompetence.
I don’t think I’ve ever said that isn’t true though.
On your last point about it being more dangerous. I slightly disagree. Yes it might not be more lethal. But it’s evidentially more transmissible. Which in itself is dangerous because of the downstream impact on capacity and care.
I mean there's a litany of times he promised not to do something he immediately did during this pandemic, so I'd suspect it's more likely the man is just incompetent.
So we have gone from the North being unfairly targeted because of politics, to the new strain not being real. Bloody tory's am I right guys
Bloody tory's am I right guysCompared to who exactly?
Most likely the curve on slide 4. We've not seen anything like that since the data was tracked, which suggests it could be a rate similar to what we saw in March.
Perhaps a better question is which world leaders he compares favourably too, it's a pretty short list.
Do you know some other Boris the rest of us don’t?!
You know that isn't true, right? The ones who implemented more severe restrictions were in a more severe situation, which had been building up over a longer period. It is not at all uncommon across the world to try and allow for families to connect during this time, or special holidays at other points in the year.
I know one beginning with the letter T and ending in Rump that he reminds me of.
Wales has also decided to introduce a new lockdown today and Christmas restrictions. Scotland will also amend rules.
I think it’s safe to say the situation has shifted over the past few days.
Sturgeon needs to feck right off.