SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)

Hazmat suits are the only way for some folk before they feel comfortable mixing.
Again, I think if you read his whole post he just wants people to wear a mask.

Are you ok?
 
Would appreciate some guidance - office setting where there is no open windows but there is an aircon. All the other people don't wear masks. Does my wearing of a mask make a difference or is it inevitable that I'll get Covid
 
Would appreciate some guidance - office setting where there is no open windows but there is an aircon. All the other people don't wear masks. Does my wearing of a mask make a difference or is it inevitable that I'll get Covid

Is it Fresh Air in AC or split unit recirc ?

You'll probably get it either way if someone has it however might be slower if your HVAC is bringing in fresh air and extracting stale
 
Is it Fresh Air in AC or split unit recirc ?

You'll probably get it either way if someone has it however might be slower if your HVAC is bringing in fresh air and extracting stale
Not sure, it’s central AC in the building but no idea on the freshness. Silver lining is I’m in Gauteng and the cases are falling pretty quickly. So here’s hoping omicron is over.
 
On a similar note, the first supermarket that bans shoppers who are not wearing masks (unless medical exemption) will get my custom. Sick of people wandering around, picking stuff up/putting it down and no masks.. I know there are some reasons but locally to me, it's half the fecking store.

Half the store is still good, my work took me to Sweden last month, I saw maybe 10 masks in total my whole stay (5 days) and my Swedish colleagues made fun of me for wearing one while we took a stroll around Gothenburg.
 
Half the store is still good, my work took me to Sweden last month, I saw maybe 10 masks in total my whole stay (5 days) and my Swedish colleagues made fun of me for wearing one whrn we took a stroll around Gothenburg.
Coincidentally, I went to Sweden a few weeks ago too (to see daughter who's at Uni in Stockholm - great city b.t.w if get chance).

Mask at Liverpool airport (obvs), mask on plane, mask in airport there. Got bag and on Arlanda Express (shuttle from airport to and from city) and when I got off, I didn't see another person with a mask for hours.

There 4 days, saw about 20 masks in that time... came back, tested, negative. Home 3 weeks, hardly gone anywhere, felt ill last week, tested, positive. :rolleyes:
 
I got a feeling that boozing morning, day and night everyday for 2 weeks and then finishing a bottle of Glenfiddich 15 years on the final night finally took its toll on my immune system. :lol: :lol:

It is the toll on social distancing when drinking that it often the issue :)
 
People who criticise modelling always seem to be those who don't like any restrictions.

Modelling is a tool and one that has been very useful during the pandemic. It has saved many lives.

And modelling here has been very good if a bit conservative. In mid Dec modelling suggested that NSW could have 25k infections per day by late Jan. #scottyfrommarketing and his evil clown posse went hard that this was pessimistic worst case scenario stuff that wasn't going happen.

Omicron: hold my beer

It took ten days (not 6 weeks) and now we are probably at 200k per day nationwide but hard to know with testing overwhelmed.
 
Coincidentally, I went to Sweden a few weeks ago too (to see daughter who's at Uni in Stockholm - great city b.t.w if get chance).

Mask at Liverpool airport (obvs), mask on plane, mask in airport there. Got bag and on Arlanda Express (shuttle from airport to and from city) and when I got off, I didn't see another person with a mask for hours.

There 4 days, saw about 20 masks in that time... came back, tested, negative. Home 3 weeks, hardly gone anywhere, felt ill last week, tested, positive. :rolleyes:

Sorry to hear mate, hope it goes well.
 
Coincidentally, I went to Sweden a few weeks ago too (to see daughter who's at Uni in Stockholm - great city b.t.w if get chance).

Mask at Liverpool airport (obvs), mask on plane, mask in airport there. Got bag and on Arlanda Express (shuttle from airport to and from city) and when I got off, I didn't see another person with a mask for hours.

There 4 days, saw about 20 masks in that time... came back, tested, negative. Home 3 weeks, hardly gone anywhere, felt ill last week, tested, positive. :rolleyes:

Solution… more masks in UK supermarkets.:p
 
Sorry to hear mate, hope it goes well.
All good ta. My experience of This variant is proving what they said… very transmissible and (generally) less severe symptoms. Fortunate only had now (this variant/triple jabbed) as opposed to start of ‘21 or even ‘20.

Started Wednesday, felt like a very bad flu and Friday/Saturday worst… did a LFT this evening and negative. Will hopefully do the same for next two then I’m free of this fecking room :)

(Ps. Ain’t Sweden cool place?)
 
And vice versa.

I treat modelling like anything else - I don't like it when it is spot on and ignore it when it isn't. It is a useful tool. You are bound to get a range of outcomes which is why it is modelling. Without it you are really just guessing.
 
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Apparently Canada has had more cases since Omicron was discovered than in the whole of 2020.
 
Apparently Canada has had more cases since Omicron was discovered than in the whole of 2020.

Ireland had more cases in two weeks over Christmas than the whole of 2020. And that’s a massive undercount. Our testing capabilities maxed out by the end of week one.
 
Modelling is a little like weather forecasting, most of the time its pretty good, every now and then it gets things wrong but its in general a useful tool to give us a decent indication of whats coming. Amusingly when it does get the weather wrong everyone moans about how the weather forecasts are always wrong, completely ignoring the fact its usually relatively close.
 
Ireland had more cases in two weeks over Christmas than the whole of 2020. And that’s a massive undercount. Our testing capabilities maxed out by the end of week one.
Have the government there done the same as they did here and basically said not to request a test and just assume you have Covid if you're unwell?
 
All good ta. My experience of This variant is proving what they said… very transmissible and (generally) less severe symptoms. Fortunate only had now (this variant/triple jabbed) as opposed to start of ‘21 or even ‘20.

Started Wednesday, felt like a very bad flu and Friday/Saturday worst… did a LFT this evening and negative. Will hopefully do the same for next two then I’m free of this fecking room :)

(Ps. Ain’t Sweden cool place?)

I contracted covid while everyone still called it corona and the vaccine was a dream. Actually in Sweden while I was working :lol:. Attended a presentation where no one wore a mask (except me) for 7 hours in a small room with shitty ventilation. They didn't want to hold the meeting through a computer because it was so 'boring and unpersonal'. 14 of us attended, all contracted the virus.

Was in bed for a week with a mild-ish fever and later ended up in the hospital because a freak allergic reaction while infected (even though I don't have allergies). But I never experienced the real bad symptoms thankfully.
 
Modelling is not a tool. It's an art.

Any half decent A Level Maths student can do the statistics. The tricky bit is having the pyschological insight of the public at large.

If the modellers in the headlines have consistently shown that they're too disconnected to be able to make those judgements, they deserve to be criticised.
 
Modelling is a little like weather forecasting, most of the time its pretty good, every now and then it gets things wrong but its in general a useful tool to give us a decent indication of whats coming. Amusingly when it does get the weather wrong everyone moans about how the weather forecasts are always wrong, completely ignoring the fact its usually relatively close.

Modelling is exactly like weather forecasting, and with current AI technology weather forecasts are good to about 4 days out. Beyond that it's just guessing and a significant contributor to why people think the whole thing is just guessing. When its so wrong its almost better not to do it at all.
 
Modelling is a little like weather forecasting, most of the time its pretty good, every now and then it gets things wrong but its in general a useful tool to give us a decent indication of whats coming. Amusingly when it does get the weather wrong everyone moans about how the weather forecasts are always wrong, completely ignoring the fact its usually relatively close.

The analogy sounds good, but in reality, weather forecasts are actually much much more reliable, unsurprisingly. Yet that said, the further out they attempt to predict the weather, the more and more unreliable they become. With a pandemic, guessing 2 weeks into the future is useless; put it this way, you wouldn't climb Everest on a weather forecast 6 weeks into the future, you'd only trust a very short term forecast, 1-2 days into the future, and then you'd get hourly forecasts before making any significant climb from camp to camp.
 
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This thread hasn't changed in about 2 years has it, despite all the lessons learned :lol:
 
Not sure, it’s central AC in the building but no idea on the freshness. Silver lining is I’m in Gauteng and the cases are falling pretty quickly. So here’s hoping omicron is over.

You will get it if someone there has it - most likley.
Unless you keep the 2 mtrs and wear a good mask
 
Would appreciate some guidance - office setting where there is no open windows but there is an aircon. All the other people don't wear masks. Does my wearing of a mask make a difference or is it inevitable that I'll get Covid

If you wear an FFP2/N95 mask you will be reasonably well protected. Needs to be fitted very well and taken on and off carefully.

That’s going to be a huge pain in the arse though. These masks are not comfortable. If you’re vaccinated, in reasonable overall health, young(ish) and in an omicron dominant area I wouldn’t bother.